Third Temple

Why doesn't Israel just build the 3rd temple already? I mean, they de-facto own the land, so it's not like anyone can stop them.

On that note, if they named the country Israel why didn't they restore the monarchy? Reviving the holy kingdom of Israel as a republic seems like utter sacrilege.

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not allowed until world peace(tm)

the majority of the jews need to be in israel, they need a messiah, and the temple has to be in a specific location which is on arab soil right now

> why didn't they restore the monarchy
because Israel it´s the work of secular socialists

Cause even Jews today don't really believe in Judaism, sort of like the Japanese where they just hold on to it because its tradition and gives a sense of ethno-nationalist pride or fulfillment. And no one really believes there will be a god to receive their sacrifices either except for observant believers who are always a minority in every religion. Israelis do consider themselves western. If so they are probably experiencing the same religious decline as well.

God is restraining them until the time of the antichrist is ripe. The antichrist will be a Jew and will rule in the temple. The Jews themselves collectively already are antichrist.

It's ready to go. Everything has been made. iirc the only thing they lack are ashes from the last red heifer sacrificed, but considering the almost 2000 year gap, that is easily overlooked.

They don't build it because only a tiny fraction of Jews believe in God, and only a tiny fraction of those people want to restart temple worship. But since those people made a solid gold menorah, I'd say they're pretty serious.

No, no, no, no, and no.

Well done.

Can you imagine the shit-storm that would happen if they tore down the mosque? World war kind of shit.

Because Israel is largely secular.

The country was founded by other republics.

Britain is not a republic.

I had no idea the irony of this shit until this thread was made. Good job.

>Why doesn't Israel just build the 3rd temple already? I mean, they de-facto own the land, so it's not like anyone can stop them.
Secular Zionists: because it's just religious fanatism to do it in comparison to the fallout of destroying a 1000 year old mosque
Ortodox: It was destroyed for a reason and we should wait for the Messiah to rebuild it
Religious Zionists: Let's do it faggots

>On that note, if they named the country Israel why didn't they restore the monarchy? Reviving the holy kingdom of Israel as a republic seems like utter sacrilege.
Secular Zionists: because republic is the best form of government
Ortodox: Because we're waiting for the Messiah from the house of David to establish and monarchy is not the preferred way of rule in the bible anyway
Religious Zionists: because the Davidic line was lost and all of its rights have been therefore delegated back to the people which means democracy

Also the name Israel means ''ruled by god''. This name was used by the Israeli tribal confederation to refer to themselves as being ruled by god and not by a king.

t. Israeli

Israel is a bunch of LARPing europeans.

>revive a dead language
>actually name your currency "shekel"
>we wuz hebrews and sheeit.
>look germanic/slavic as fuck, but claim ancestral blood ties to the land.

Dude, culture is always LARPing. The important part is everyone does it, and they do it well.

Ashkenazim are a minority in Israel and they still cluster closer to the Mizrahim, which are the Jews who never left the Middle-East, than Europeans. Also, the Sephardim and Mizrahim make up the majority of Israel's Jews. SOO, maybe next time, "goy".

>Dude, culture is always LARPing.

This. Culture is behavior, it's not something innate, nor is it something you inherit.

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>Religious Zionists: because the Davidic line was lost and all of its rights have been therefore delegated back to the people which means democracy
>Also the name Israel means ''ruled by god''. This name was used by the Israeli tribal confederation to refer to themselves as being ruled by god and not by a king.
>t. Israeli


Interesting.

So what happens if the catholic church comes out with an Heir to Jesus of Nazareth? Isn't he of the house of David? Would that be the israeli royal family?

Natinalhood is really just a means to have cohesion in a society. So we have a people with a mutual history and enemies coming together and despite their cultural differences unite in a way that allowed them to withstand several against the odds wars, build a 1st world level economy and retain a democratic form of government trough the whole time. This is as real an nationhood and cultual cohesion gets.
You are free to compare this to such artificial creations as the arab nations who's citizens are ready to genocide each other each time they are not prevented from doing so by a brutal dictatorship.

They literally can't.

>Julian thought to rebuild at an extravagant expense the proud Temple once at Jerusalem, and committed this task to Alypius of Antioch. Alypius set vigorously to work, and was seconded by the governor of the province; when fearful balls of fire, breaking out near the foundations, continued their attacks, till the workmen, after repeated scorchings, could approach no more: and he gave up the attempt.

If they tried again it would just cause an earthquake.

No because Jesus of Nazareths claim to be from the Davidic line is baseless. He was a son of a carpenter while the house of David was a powerful aristocratic family holding the hereditary title of Exilarch from the time their last king was deposed, trough Jesuses supposed lifetime and up until the middle ages when the house dissappeared.

You would also have to re-create the priesthood and high priest, right? Potentially dividing Judaism into groups that accept the priest's authority and those that don't. Sort of like a Protestantism VS Catholic sort of deal.

The Rabbis already usurped that role over a thousand years ago.

No it doesn't. It means struggles with men and God. Jacob earned the name after struggling with men and God.

Joseph descended from David, regardless of his vocation. If you'll notice, during Joseph's time, there was no King in Israel.

You really don't know shit about your own business, do you.

No, they would just reinstall the Levites as priests. Jews jealously guard their lineages as they inherit land in Israel based on tribe and family.

Brazil already did it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Solomon_(São_Paulo)

>[Temple mount] is on arab soil right now
Israel controls the Old City, they just allow the Palestinian Authority to administer the temple mount because >muh peace in the middle east

This becomes increasingly less true every time a Chassid woman pops another one out.

wew lad.

There would be shit about it but it would be misdirected. The dome of the rock could (and probably would) be moved since it's fucking miniscule and the real holy site (Al-Aqsa) wouldn't need to be touched since it's not even on the mount. To be fair, the Arabs blew up the Grand Synogogue and shat all over the Jewish Quarter '48-'67 so they kind of have it coming.

>Rabbis usurped the role of priests
Roles of Rabbis and priests have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Let me summarize:
Priests - fulfill commandments in the Torah
Rabbis - are autistic

>not on mount Moriah
Checkmate, colega.

I doubt god is watching brazil

Bibi Netanyahu is the mischiach

you butchered the transliteration, senpai.

You have any evidence he descended from the House of David?

>If you'll notice, during Joseph's time, there was no King in Israel.
Other than the king in Israel during Joseph's time, i.e., Herod.

Thats the traditional explanation deviced by religious commentators. Historians today offer the second explanation that makes much more sense historicly and grammaticaly.

So where is the fucking mount then?