Wtf is the IRA and why do people make such a big fuss about them?

>We hate them because we all know someone that died or was seriously wounded in those attacks,

But that's really The Queen's fault.

Re: The Troubles. Everyone was a cunt to everyone else and anyone who trys to tell you differently is a cunt too.

>napoleon conquers England
>plants French in Cornwall to make it more French
>200 years later
>Cornwall still part of France
>native English 2nd class citizens
>native English kick up a fuss
Would you consider them "terrorists"?

Northern Ireland is a sham of a nation, that most English people don't even want

t. labour voter who's mad about the recent tory coalition

I don't know anything about modern Irish history or politics, but I've heard several time that Britain has tried to give Northern Ireland back to Ireland numerous times, and it's the Republic of Ireland that doesn't want it.

Is that actually the case?

Depends on if they kick up a fuss by nail bombing kids or not?

Yeah they tried to make all of Ireland a "free state" but people in Northern Ireland opposed it and they created the uvf

Vicious catholic cunts, like all other vicious catholic cunts.

terrorists

Other than a non-genuine offer to get Ireland to join the Allies in WW2, no, that's not the case.

This isnt what happened in Ireland though

Except it is

>want independence despite having literally no benefits
>kill people during a war anyway
No both my mum and dad were on trains one away from being bombed, so shut up you Corbynite

>implying the plantation of Ulster was over 200 years not 900

Heroes.

up the ra
desu

800 years

EIGHT-HUNDRED

Not heard of O'Neill and O'Donnell I see. Ulster differentiating from the rest of Ireland is a relatively recent phenomenon. In any case the time of plantation doesn't alter the fact that the catholic Irish were mistreated in Northern Ireland.

true successors to Hitler's Reich

Do you expect traitors to be fairly treated?

how about I'm doing none of that

In the past? Rebels.
In the present/recent future? Terrorists.

>muh one man's terrorist

Nah, they were terrorists.
Although interestingly enough, during the Troubles-the conflict they are most infamous for-they actually killed less civilians than the Loyalist (Pro British) paramilitaries did.

In fact all in all, in terms of "who was a bigger asshole during the Troubles", the trophy oddly enough goes to the British/pro british forces.

Regardless, while certain members/associates of the IRA went on to make heroes of themselves through excellent statesmanship/peace process work, don't let anyone tell you they were "Freedom fighters."

They were terrorists. A just cause, but still terrorists. I could go boot my little sister in the face in the name of ending world hunger, it doesn't make me a hero.

have fun with Abdul and Mohammed, Charles.

>New IRA just sells drugs in Northern Ireland and the U.K
Ftfy.

you'll get yours.

big fat arab cock yours desu

The Northern Irish were willing to fight British soldiers to stay part of Britain. Unionists are a strange bunch

just like the UVF, LVF cunts etc.

>I would like to put a hypothetical question-it is a question I have put to many Englishmen since the last war. Suppose Germany had won the war, had invaded and occupied England, and that after a long lapse of time and many bitter struggles, she was finally brought to acquiesce in admitting England's right to freedom, and let England go, but not the whole of England, all but, let us say, the six southern counties.
>These six southern counties, those, let us suppose, commanding the entrance to the narrow seas, Germany had singled out and insisted on holding herself with a view to weakening England as a whole, and maintaining the securing of her own communications through the Straits of Dover.
>Let us suppose further, that after all this had happened, Germany was engaged in a great war in which she could show that she was on the side of freedom of a number of small nations, would Mr. Churchill as an Englishman who believed that his own nation had as good a right to freedom as any other, not freedom for a part merely, but freedom for the whole-would he, whilst Germany still maintained the partition of his country and occupied six counties of it, would he lead this partitioned England to join with Germany in a crusade? I do not think Mr. Churchill would.
>Would he think the people of partitioned England an object of shame if they stood neutral in such circumstances? I do not think Mr. Churchill would.

Britannia delenda est.

just let Mohammed Jihad do his thing, John Bull won't even lift a finger.

payback for all his colonial nonsense.

and funny how he's still hating on the Micks ITT but won't say boo to the nogs or wogs.

>tfw Collins wanted a free, united federal Ireland to eventually buddy up with England, he was just sick of them fucking Ireland up

The good guys

>mad about the Tory coalition

If you think DUP being in the british spotlight is going to do anything but win Labour and Sinn Féin masses upon masses of votes then you are a retard.

Sure, if you're right wing you have a pretty nice term coming up, but people forget that Sinn Féin dominate all opposition seats to the DUP and after a few years of their retarded PR skills it's safe to say that the Tory's have probably just teamed up with their own undoing.

Irish terrorist organization

America has war on terror but loves the fuck out of them so people start smelling bias.

>america loves them

Nah, Americans who wish they were Irish love them.
Liking "the IRA" is one thing, appreciating the fact that the IRA has changed entirely in form , goal, method and structure 18 quintillion times since its formation is correct.

Anyone-americans in particular-who try to apply good and bad to the most recent conflict, the Troubles, is a certified retard.

Every single "side" in that fight that raised arms ended up committing some seriously needlessy shitty deeds. Nobody gets moral high ground.

War on terror doesn't have moral high ground either but we put good and evil labels on it all the time.

it doesn't matter the method, it's the reason and relatability that determines who loves which side

I agree with you, it's just that particularly when it comes to people from Northern Ireland attitudes toward terrorists on either side are dumbfounding.

You have

>IRA did nothing wrong
>UVF did nothing wrong
>RUC did nothing wrong

People ignore the fact that there are recorded examples of every single belligerent in the conflict doing awful, awful things and definitely not because there was no other option.

But then IRA get a free pass for some because ex-members helped in the peace process and UVF get a free pass because they were "defending people from the IRA."