Biology vs. (((Humanities)))

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Socialism doesn't magically become not-retarded just because you stick the word "national" in front of it.

>thinking this is socialism+nationalism

You forgot the piles of murdered ''untermensch'' civilians in your bottom pic OP

Then why call it that?

The natural application of science to this situation is that you should kill yourself.

I think you are literally stupid

>And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Hitler and his stupid dog Goering

Because fascism mixes populist sounding bullshit with reactionary class politics. Hitler engaged in privatization and completely smashed all independent working class organizations.

*triggered*

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>Because fascism
>Because fascism
>Because fascism

Failure is a precursor to success.

hey I'm jewish, how do I become the guy with the money bag?

Is this the 4D chess meme? Like, "we totally planned on losing that war, guys"?

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I'm sure nobody or group of people in history has ever learned from their failures, and succeeded.

That picture is so fucking retarded

National socialism is essentially the opposite of anarcho-communism, yet that diagram would suggest they are identical

Good pic actually

>capitalism is nationalistic
how naive.

lmao what do Neo Nazis even hope to do

Take over a few local police offices in rural places and turn a blind eye to sporadic hate crimes?

Looks like tribalism to me. Tribalism is proto-national socialism. The führer is the chief, and the nation is the tribe.

Goddamn you're retarded. By this line of thinking, every other hierarchical system with a central leader and a group identity is also proto-national socialist. This would include the medieval French kingdom or the Catholic church.

To trick Germans into voting for them

No, you don't understand. This makes sense for nazis because they need to ridiculed. THE FUHRER IS THE CHIEF AND THE NATION IS THE TRIBE, repeat after me THE FUHRER IS THE CHIEF

Neo-nazis aren't national socialists. Neo-nazis borrow their aesthetics from the NSDAP, but they do not have a deep understanding of the national socialist movement.

A real national socialist would rally people who are willing to die for their people (something a leftist like yourself would not understand) to bring about meaningful change.

No, national socialism is a specific ideology centered around a strictly hierarchical society dominated by a single party unified in ideology, who attempt to define the nation through certain traits and values, mobilize the public toward external threats, and purge of the nation of whatever elements offend the ruling cadres.

National socialism is marked by extensive collaboration between various entities for the perceived natural interest, generally through attempts to subordinate both the private sector and the working class under the will of the state.

It's not just "a society with a guy in charge."

Why don't you just forget about jews?

>Neo-nazis
>having an understanding of anything
Nice bait, friendo

I think you might be a little mentally slow yourself. You fail to realize that a chief isn't just any leader, but they are the strongest among their people, and they command respect from them (many Western leaders do not).

They're actually worked to death in internment camps

Weimar Germany was poor as fuck and many considered capitalism to be a bad thing. Nazis used clever wording to allow them to oppose both rampant capitalism and communism, offering to curtail capitalism alongside their promises to curtail Jewish and communist influence. All of this was incorporated into a platform based on improving the power and reputation of Germany as an entity.

What the fuck did I just read

You are generalizing the policies of the NSDAP to represent all national socialism. National socialism is derived from Völkisch movement which pre-dates the NSDAP.

You tell me.

But who are your people? Why do you prostrate yourself before a collection of traits and stereotypes that, in all likelihood, were selected by 19th century governments to create a cohesive identity under a central state?

As late as the 1920s, huge swaths of the "Polish nation" called themselves Mazovians or Kashubians. Their speech wasn't fully comprehensible to officials from Warsaw, so these officials had to work tirelessly to impress the Polish identity onto these populations.

"Your people" is a subjective point of identity, and a foolish object of worship.

>whale
the cuck is better off, at least he isn't committing bestiality like the """alpha"""

Then by this understanding any meritocracy is national socialism.

You're trying to show that your specific ideology is natural or whatever through these general analogies, but none of them come close to describing the society you want to establish.

Fag

If you are not sure who "your people" are, I recommend you start off with your family, and expand from there. Would these people take a bullet for you? Would you take a bullet for them? In a multicultural society, the answer is likely no, but in a homogeneous society, the answer is more likely to be yes.

In reality, Nazism gave full control of Germany to its richest capitalists. Labor unions and worker's associations were smashed. Labor rights were gradually eroded. The war was mostly their initiative, since they wanted more raw materials for their industry.

Think about it: the ''national'' ''socialists'' sacrificed their nation's best- the lives of millions of young German men, all to enrich a handful of business magnates. Literally makes me L M A O to think there are NEETs whose lives are so miserable that their only life inspiration comes from a disgraced, failed, and morally bankrupt ideology

The problem with nationalism is extending this identity to strangers who share certain traits (sometimes just a passport) and brutally dehumanizing the strangers who fall outside these parameters.

As an American I have nothing in common with Warren Buffet except a passport and skin color. I don't see why I should risk my neck to protect him or his interests. I'd much rather protect my buddy Brenno, who lives in Brazil but went to college with me in the US.

No, a meritocracy is only national socialism if it is also collectivist. In capitalism, your merit is your wealth, but in national socialism your merit is your loyalty, courage, honor, and family.

See that's where the other idea is necessary:
The entire world is American and just need to accept it. No lesser people, just Americans.

As though ancaps don't have to hide their power level too.

>Neo-nazis borrow their aesthetics from the NSDAP, but they do not have a deep understanding of the national socialist movement
>but they do not have a deep understanding
>do not
How fucking retarded are you? Seriously.

Yes, that is certainly a major problem with national socialism. You have nothing in common with your fellow Americans, because the United States is a multicultural society. Do you think your tribal ancestors would disagree with me? Or Germans living in Germany before denazification?

>a corporate workplace is national socialism

>it's another stormfag thread

Even if everyone in the US was an exact clone of me and created the most homogeneous society in existence I still wouldn't care about or stick my neck out for them.

My tribal ancestors were raping and pillaging their neighboring tribes, who had largely the same language and genetics. Is this the future you aspire to?

But nations aren't tribes, user. Even in a homogeneous state like Japan, you're talking about tens of millions of strangers united just by language and certain shared genes. It's dishonest to pretend that a nation state has the same dynamics as a tribal society of a couple thousand people living in the same place.

I like it

I think it's funny how Nazis construct these naive and Roussovian visions of the past to justify the brutal oppression of people born elsewhere.

It certainly would be dishonest. I am not saying they are the same, but national socialism is a means to scale a tribe up into a nation.

>My tribal ancestors were raping and pillaging their neighboring tribes
But is that really true, let's find out: youtu.be/B8M9J4szTTY

Explain why certain nations don't deserve a right to exist. According to Hitler, the Slavic nations of Eastern Europe were destined for subjugation and enslavement. Why couldn't Slavs have their own NatSoc ''paradise''? Who decides under National ''Socialism'' which nations have a right to exist and which don't?

Not him, but I do agree. Hitler was wrong to hate on slavs. Removing other nations, through force or immigration, is wrong.

Probably because the Slavs were weak enough to fall for communism.

How is communism incompatible with your tribal utopia? Most tribal societies practiced primitive communism. Doesn't the existence of an exploitative capitalist minority hurt the nation's unity and cohesiveness? Example- can you name a nation more patriotic and proud of its history than the North Koreans?

>if you're not a literal nazi you're a SJW

Weak enough for communism which beat a nation of aryan ubermensch nazis. Lmao. Germany should have been grounded into dust and scattered to the four winds for their arrogance.

So why did West Germany do better economically than East Germany, if communism was so great? Why did Stalin need the Western allies to defeat Hitler? He could not have done it without American industry.

You can give any subhuman a gun and destroy another's civilization, but you cannot give a subhuman a toolbox and expect him to create a great civilization.

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So were 17% of German voters

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Homo sapiens did it

>subject is about Nazism
>surprised that someone says the term fascist
I think you're the only autistic one here buddy

Assuming that Jews not only create and perpetuate communism regimes but do so collectively on behalf of their religious organizations.
This is a ridiculous notion.
Also before you vomit up your handy-dandy "PURE COINCIDENCE?!?" infrographs I'll save you the time.
Marx didn't invent socialism.
Lenin only had Jewish ancestry and wasn't aware of it.
The majority of Lenin's Bolsheviks were not Jews.
The percentage of Jewish Marxists was only a few percentage points higher than the percentage of Jews in Russia.
Though Trotsky was ethnically Jewish he was not religious nor would he have been as a leading figure in Russian politics at the time.
Furthermore his influence upon the Communist Party was erased, as was he by Stalin.
This popular accusation of Jews seeding the world with communism or Marxist ideology is nothing more than a polemic with all the subtlety and logic of Dan Brown book adapted to film by Michael Bay.
The same applies to the attestation that Jews 'run' the media.
If you want to talk about why Jews have such high representation in Hollywood and media companies then sure, we can talk about that, but it's silly and honestly pretty infantile to think that a little over a small number of people within a small number of people would all be colluding in business toward a common goal for the sake of religion.
Do you not understand how business works?
At the top the only thing that matters is maximizing profit.

What do you think they are burying with those shovels

>varg

Wow.


It's like this is the true embodiment of American education

Did you even read ?

Nazi Germany surely didn't. With stuff like invading Russia or getting at war with all these global powers.