Are there any multi ethnic societies out there today that are successful and thriving...

Are there any multi ethnic societies out there today that are successful and thriving? Ignoring ones that have an immigrant, civic stance like the U.S. and Australia.

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India I guess

China

>muh successful multi ethnic

Most of US upper echelon are white people, simply look at US senators and those billionaires.

singapore

Singapore obviously.

Russia, Iran, China, and Malaysia are doing quite well despite their substantial ethnic diversity.

Christianity?

Singapore.

>thriving
>dissents everywhere to the non-China proper regions

Singapore

Since when does the word thriving mean there's no oppression or human rights violations?

Singapore is dominantly chinese, in fact they have certain unwritten rule that the country must always have 60 percent chinese to maintain their majority
Malaysia is the opposite of Singapore, instead you have literal Malay supremacy rule where other ethnic become second class citizen and receive more taxes, less advantage than a Malay, in fact Singapore was born our of racial conflict with Malaya
As for China it's achieved through hanification, and the more diverse areas like zinging has always been a place of conflict
Don't know about other places

*xinjiang

Flourishing means succeeding. You can't be a successful multi-ethnic country if the minorities are always in state of unrest. You might as well say putting all of the minorities in chains and putting them in prison is a "successful multi-ethnic state" at this point.

For reference
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republic_of_Singapore
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Malaysia
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_race_riots_in_Singapore

Isn't China 98% homogenous, though?

>White people are one ethnicity
The mere fact that americans actually think that means that their multi ethnic project succeeded

>Ignoring ones that have an immigrant, civic stance like the U.S. and Australia.
Not usually.
Throughout history the uniting factor of individual groups has mainly been either tribal affinity, and without ulterior motives to cooperation these groups have traditionally been in competition for land, even among what would these days be considered one ethnicity.

The best way to make a state live multi-ethnically is to attempt to destroy the idea of a tribe, and this can either be done by accident like how it was where people moves away from their communities upon their own free will like in The American Colonies, or it can be done purposefully like how slaves and prisoners were shipped out around the world.

This lowers the chance of tribes and clans being the greatest motivator for communities to exist and instead creates communities with values on things like individualism, or patriotism. Both are great and erasing racial lines because when you only care about yourself other races don't matter and when you only care about your country you can tolerate other races if they're also citizens.

Patriotism can also lead to like a kind of "Big Tribe" mentality where people focus on what the ideal member of a state is and decide that they should exclude others that really don't fit that concept, so it doesn't always work out from time to time.

Either way it's likely rare to see heterogeneous cultures existing without big racial issues unless there have been steps taken to replace clan values for something else, and it's pretty hard to do it without creating another divide, such as how American Colonists eventually stopped identifying as the states of their European heritage.

What, didn't you know? The third reich was the greatest, most successful multi-ethnic state history has ever known.

The Roman empire

>Flourishing means succeeding. You can't be a successful multi-ethnic country if the minorities are always in state of unrest.
They aren't. Most of China's officially recognized minorities are kept in check by the world's most generous affirmative action program, and there's largely no dissent. Meanwhile most of China's unrecognized minorities largely don't see themselves as anything other than Chinese. They're like if the Roman Empire never fell.

It's 91% Han, but Han is a meme; hundreds of millions of "Han" speak different languages than Standard Mandarin and genetically they're about as varied as the various denizens of Europe. The most visible phenotypical differences are that southern Chinese groups are darker-skinned and on average 2-3 inches shorter than their northern counterparts.

A simple statistic to illustrate China's diversity: according to the 2010 edition of the Nationalencyklopedin, Mandarin (all dialects) is spoken as a mother tongue by 950 million of China's then-population of 1.35 billion. That is, 70% of China's population. Meanwhile 6% speak Wu, 5% speak Yue languages (e.g. Cantonese), 5% speak Min, etc. To this must be added culturally and genetically distinct people who have nonetheless adopted a version of Mandarin (like the Sichuanese), and those who have their tongues slapped under the "Mandarin" label but are at least as different from that language as Spanish is from Portuguese and Italian.

I'd guess that only 30-40% of China's population would count as part of the majority ethnolinguistic group if you judged them by Western criteria.

Israel

Singapore is very unequal though. The difference between indigenous Malay and Chinese is the same as the difference between black and white Americans. Kind of fucked since they've been a multi ethnic state with officially no core identity since the 60s. And when you think of how succesful and stable their government and economy has been, and the fact that they only rule over a single city for which immigration has been the backbone of its entire history, it's pretty pathetic that it's so unequal. Makes me think integration is a total pipe dream.

when i say difference i mean difference in household income

Switzerland.

The idea of multi-ethnic Societies not working due to ethnic tribalism is generally a meme. Most countries have been multi-cultural in some form or another for at least a millennia, just look at how many dialects exist throughout Europe.

China: as mentioned most of the population is a minority of some kind, and this was especially the case historically (the PRC is the strongest incarnation of the Chinese state and has done its best to synthesize everyone). It is also 1/4 of the human population and the most powerful and successful country on Earth for most of history.

Also:
>Persia
>Ancient Egypt
>Israel
>Switzerland

>world's most generous affirmative action
Wait, China is giving their minorities their country back? Wow, what a generous country. They're going to be allowed to practice their own religion without state restrictions? Wow what a truly free country. Wait, they're even allowing these minorities to keep their culture? Wow. That's just amazing.

why would you ignore the two most successful ones?

SIngapore has race riots between chinks malays and poos every now and then. If multiracialism can't work in Singapore it can't work anywhere.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Little_India_riot
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_race_riots_in_Singapore
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_race_riots_of_Singapore

>the most powerful and successful country on Earth for most of history.

The very first civilization began in Mesopotamia

Ancient Egyptians built pyramids thousand years before chinks started to live in mud huts

Roman Empire is more powerful and successful.

Spanish Empire is the first global empire

British Empire is the largest empire in history

Modern day non-meme answers are Switzerland, Belgium, and to a degree, Germany.

Multiculturalism? What's that? All I've personally experienced are hostile arab and somali invaders making life uncomfortable for me.

I wish the token multiculturalism envisioned in the 90s was a real thing.

Ever had Chinese food or Sushi?

Multiculturalism, now you get to eat food that's not disgusting pickled herring.

>muh ethnic food that can only be made by importing the third world for authenticity points™
Most Chinese food is not actually very Chinese at all btw

>Most of US upper echelon are white people, simply look at US senators and those billionaires
Tbf that's because America was majority white/Anglo for most of its history.
It's only in the last few decades that things have changed so much and it's impressive how far ahead a lot of non-white immigrants have come in the US despite it.

That really depends. The Chinese places I go to can make real Chinese dishes. You just have to know the names of the dish you want in Chinese, since it's not on the English menu.

I still think overall you get the best ethnic food from the minorities that brought them here.

Multi racialism could work just not Multiculturalism. I live in Singapore, Indians are praised in engineering but then again the immigrants that come here are not very religious.

Recognized minorities got to ignore the one child rule, get massive extra points on college entrance exams, have their languages protected in their regions, get no interest loans from the government at request, effectively don't have to pay taxes to the federal government (all tax revenue goes to improvements in minority regions), etc. That's why you have tons of Han students pretending to be Mongolians or whatever to get those sweet benefits.

He's right. China was more powerful and influential than most of those states you listed.

t. Lin Xang

Singapore but all that demonstrates is that to make ethnic pluralism work means a police state.
and british rule probably helped, they are 1950s british classroom: the country.

>China has 52 minorities.
>Only 2 are """rebelling"""
>With said rebels being from radical elements
>"Dissent everywhere."

British rule didn't help at all. It resulted in the 60s race riots. The authoritarian forced multiculti helped.

>Eating other cultures' food means you have to live with them
This is one of the worst memes ever envisioned