Will we ever see the birth of a traditionalist state in Western society...

Will we ever see the birth of a traditionalist state in Western society, as more and more people across demographics find distaste with globalism?

I'm thinking something like Rhodesia or South Africa, in the sense of a traditional, isolationist state.

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nah man the average roastie ranges from being indifferent to pregnancy to considering it parasitism

we're done for

traditions are not something people decide to embrace because of some logical conclusion, it's the result of a taxing environment which demands disciplined and long-term behaviour.
In the decadent and crumbling west those conditions do not exist so traditions fall away until their falling creates disorder from which tradition re-emerges

One can wish. I, for one, would like to create a separate state somewhere in northern Sweden for instance. A holdout in the cuckery.

You mean like a save space for /pol/? No I don't think Europe will try Fascism ever again, sorry.

lol nah its over for white people.

This is why as Muslims we are fighting so hard to keep our old way of life despite fucking Western liberalism screeching on about "muh secularism and Womyns rights"

>I'm thinking something like Rhodesia or South Africa
Translation: when we ever bring back racial apartheid? I miss my race-based welfare state

This
Stay steady brother

I think it is possible for small groups to band together and move to somewhere with likeminded people. I dunno if it could be as large as a state, but I can see why someone would like to move from places with rampant liberalism.

Rhodesia and sa were never traditional.

Its hard m 8. Most Muslims here are plebshits that go to Friday Jamat dressed like the never bothered to get up and get properly dressed. absolutely disgusting

This will only happen if Westerners embace Islam

*embrace

Fuck off leftypol; those societies were undeniably socially conservative and proud of it, which is what I'm getting at.

But yeah fuck niggers


Anything after 1914 was a mistake

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I'm sure your pet niggers and Muslims will adopt your progressive, democratic socialist , social liberal views ;^)

>leftypol still trying to establish a foothold here

Fuck off, this isn't your echo chamber. No one falls for your lies anymore

>you're either /pol/ or /leftypol/

Really, it's crazy how much /pol/ and Muslim views overlap.

>le pol bogeyman while pushing a left wing viewpoint

Yeah totally not a shill. Thanks for the bump.

Yes, i hate those violent niggers, i hate how they disregard law and order, and i hate those fucking muslims, being ridiculously conservative, i hear they support killing people ho disagree with them!
Surely, a totally empowered executive immune from his own laws with the ability to kill all dissenters will put a stop to this disgusting violence.

No, as long as women exist. There's one thing you have to realize, many conservatives believe in some kind of blank slate of women where they are born as pristine angels and only corrupted by society/jews/media/whatever. That's not even remotely true, they are born vicous, subhuman beasts and the most traditional societies merely managed to chain the beast.

You just need to properly control them like you used to

>pic
Jesus Christ, what a horrible sentiment. "You exist only to breed." Is this supposed to be inspiring or something?

you forgot your pepe and your REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>if you are disenchanted with modern society you are le eeeeevil Nazi supporter

Really made me suppose

Women control the men, not other way around. That's the fundamental principle of our species. And as long as they exist, they will always end up getting their way.

Pipe down subhuman.

The "before /pol/" should be more like a greyscale.

>I'll still be attractive to men as a 37 year old executive focused on her career

/pol/tards wish they were muslims

Only to an illiterate pleb.

Only an ideologue or a schizophrenic could jump straight to this many implications.

It's not just muslims, everyone in the world who isn't western white nihilistic cuckold has /pol/ tier views.

>everyone in the world who isn't part of the cultural and intellectual tradition of the West (the greatest of all time according to /pol/) has /pol/ tier views
Really makes one cogitate.

Or, more like "it's literally only the western world that's obsessed with niggers, trannies, hedonism and other SJW issues"

Idiot, /pol/ is explicitly opposed to western philosophy since ~ the 60s

>the greatest of all time according to /pol/
/pol/ thinks the west is cucked to oblivion, and they're right. I'm not even white and you guys are fucking laughable.

>Everything left-wing is shilling

>I'm thinking something like Rhodesia or South Africa
Literally what traditions could invented countries possibly have?

More like since ~ the 1700s

>being left wing

Depends on the individual but The point is there's a limit to pol's admiration

>People in the 1700s were limp wristed beta cucks who liked to see their women fucked by black bulls while they jerked off to trap anime
Uuum sweetie...

But then, philosophy was better before the 1700s.

>>People in the 1700s were limp wristed beta cucks who liked to see their women fucked by black bulls while they jerked off to trap anime
sounds a lot like /pol/
i always found it strange how supposed alpha male traditionalists made their home on an anime imageboard

Then if western culture is currently so shit, why are they so keen on preserving it? Just lie back and let the Sharia Law kick in.

>my altright parody of the outside world is actually what more than .5% of the population is really like
You've been meming too hard.

Oh yeah it's well known how /pol/ hates anything to do with, say, colonialism in the late 19th century, or Germany in the 1930s...

Neck yourself you nigger faggot.

The further away from major metropolitan areas you are, the more traditional things get. I say this as an urbanite who recently moved to a more rural area of the States, I have to say these people are living much more fulfilling lives than I could've ever hoped for in LA or Portland. Why do people hate on the rural folk so much?

The only reason why /pol / isn't islamic is because is not European

Because the (((media))) and (((educational))) systems have a vested interest in cities as breeding grounds of leftism. They need to inculcate a feeling of superiority. See the "bush is dumb" and all the anti trump memes (((they))) pushed in the past.

Most city dwellers are degenerates or pieces of shit. I live in Indiana and if NYC or the left coast got nuked tomorrow I literally could not care.

>Neck yourself you nigger faggot.
/pol/lacks never can seem to type out a post that doesn't make them sound like they're frothing at the mouth. Are you just trying to look like a tough guy or are you really that angry all the time?

Not him but to be honest with you, Los Angeles is a cyclopean shithole even by city standards.

>limp wristed beta cucks who liked to see their women fucked by black bulls while they jerked off to trap anime

fitting description of the saviors of the white race in this site

>communists projecting their sexual degeneracy once against

Stupidity enrages me, what can I say.

I bet they also hate gays because they're secretly gay too, right?

>if you don't agree with me ur le gommie
the pic in really is true

>communists
The 1950s called, they want their boogeyman back.

Probably not gay but I'd wager that a large number of them are cucks/attracted to the idea of cuckolding. It's a fairly niche fetish with almost no presence or influence in mainstream culture and yet somehow their entire world revolves around it. Sorry, but no one is that obsessed with the concept of cuckoldry except cuckolds.

You might not know it, and might deny it, but you're subconsciously communists, i.e. you've internalized communist ideology.

>Sorry, but no one is that obsessed with the concept of cuckoldry except cuckolds.
Shittiest argument. Are anti-pedophiles closet pedophiles?

The term "cuck" became popular because it's a funny word which accidentally also perfectly describes the nu-male mentality.

>are you trying to look like a tough guy
This is literally the entire basis of their ideology, i know they like to say their opponents are driven only by emotion but from personal experience (as being one of them) it applies mostly to themselves, half of them don't even know the fucking talking points and evidence they're supposed to parrot, they just say cuck or degenerate and call it a day.
If they're anything like me something will snap them out of it one day and all of the cognitive dissonance they've built up will collapse overnight and they'll realise it was just a dumb phase.

>you're subconsciously communists
Absolute gold. Is this the right's new "internalized misogyny"? A way of saying "everyone who disagrees with me is x" even when they're not? And what values? The posts you replied to were just pointing out that /pol/ is full of degenerate loser faggots, that's simply an observation of fact. And if you want evidence besides the fact that this is fucking Veeky Forums, see the backlash against "numales" displayed by people like , a.k.a. males who are fashionable and socially accepted unlike the betas on this site.

>Absolute gold. Is this the right's new "internalized misogyny"? A way of saying "everyone who disagrees with me is x" even when they're not? And what values?
Thinking humans are innately equal in capabilities, that everything is culturally determined, that sexual liberation is good, etc. You're just bleating marxist propaganda like a good little cuck.

>The posts you replied to were just pointing out that /pol/ is full of degenerate loser faggots,
Hey if it helps you sleep at night keep believing that.

>a.k.a. males who are fashionable and socially accepted unlike the betas on this site.
Kek what? Oh yeah the pink haired flabby pansexual is perceived as the alpha male.

Your obsession with /pol/fags necessarily being losers seems like a lot of projection. How's your social life user?

When the west collapses. Women gaining power is a sure sign of a death of a society. Just like after the Romans or the early Arab empire.

Sometimes I can't even believe that I'm still in California, it such a different way of life people in Northern/Central California live. I'm ashamed to say that I lived the better part of my life in LA and the Valleys around it, I drove up to the Shasta's around the end of fall and the whole Jefferson state movement made perfect sense to me. To think there are fags in LA who never want to leave that shithole...

>being /pol/

Feels good man

whatever keeps you up at night

You're an insecure manchild, the reason you hate "numales" and "cucks" so much is because you're afraid of those qualities in yourself and so you violently reject them in an attempt to prove yourself to the world.
No emotionally secure person would even care if they saw some spindly motherfucker holding a mug with two hands. You make me cringe.

>both are hyperconservative patriarchial racial-based societies that approve of using violence against dissenters

hmm

>Islam
>race based

t. RedArmyHero1917

covfefe

>implying the Middle East hasn't been home to constant ethic violence for millenia

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Islam is not race based in the sense that National Socialism or a similar ideology was. There are literally Muslim of every race.

>Your obsession with /pol/fags necessarily being losers seems like a lot of projection
I'm not one of the original posters you replied to, I joined the conversation with . If you think it's not true though, you need a reality check my friend. How many people do you really think have a good job and a girlfriend/wife and spend time on /pol/?

And they all hate each other

What's even funnier is that this TRUMP IS L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y HITLER !!!!! meme is not even new. They were saying the same shit about every Republican president ever.

citation needed

>liberals lost against this

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Still doesn't mean it's race based like you claim, simp

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>Trump administration is a complete disaster
>liberals get 4-8 years to laugh at all the dumbasses who voted in a reality tv star
don't see the problem with this

The West post-war is basically (and paradoxically) anti-west. It explicitly believes in the destruction of all western values and any notion of biological essentialism.

It would be akin to some group seizing control of Japan and considering Japanese-ness itself anathema and making the identity of this neo-Japan the erasure of anything explicitly or implicitly Japanese.

Basically there's no reason for us to support a postmodern west led by people who believe "western values" amount to amorphous, meaningless bullshittery like "tolerance".

>they wanna give the darkies and the wimmenz equal rights!
>THIS IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WEST OUR CIVILIZATION HAS NEVER FACED A GREATER THREAT IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY
You're pathetic

Not him, but you posted a funny maymay, called him names and that's it, no argument. You're quite literally a mental cripple.

In 1940 there were two million Hispanics in the US and 130 million whites.

In the 2010 census, there were 220 million whites and 50 million hispanics.

/pol/ is prone to hyperbole, but industrialized societies are suffering from substantial demographic challenges created by the inverse relationship between income and fertility.

There is such group: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japaneseism

>The Anti-Japanism theory posed that Japan's actions since the Meiji period had been tainted by imperialism, and a new regime was needed. According to Anti-Japanism, Japan's moral failure can be redeemed if the Imperial family is purged and the country forcibly transitioned to a communist "people's republic".[citation needed] Anti-Japaneseism radicalized this argument by claiming that even communist revolution could not redeem Japan because the Japanese themselves possess an inherent "aggressive nature".[1] >Proponents of this theory believe that the only way to redeem oneself from the "oppressor and criminal Japanese race" is to fight against all Japanese interests until the "Japanese" archipelago has been purged of anything Japanese.

Good thing it never succeed

I'm from a tiny European nation. I'm not entirely sure why any "darkies" should be here in the first place senpai. I'm not opposed to demographically insignificant immigration, but immigration for the purposes of settlement should be severely curtailed, as it is in virtually all non-western countries.

As for women, no civilization has historically treated women as well as western civilization. And despite what the feminists say that goes for all epochs and periods: Classical (Greco-Roman), Medieval, Early-Modern and Colonial. Name another civilization in 300BC where a woman could divorce a husband for domestic violence. No reason for us to listen to historically illiterate femitards on this subject.

I'm almost certain it was run by Zainichi Gooks.

LIFE IS A GIFT FROM GOD TO ALL BEINGS; TRADITION IS A CURSE FROM ANCESTORS TO DESCENDANTS; WISDOM IS THE BLESSING WHICH FREES THE INDIVIDUAL FROM THE CHAIN OF TRADITION, SHOWING HIM/HER THE SOURCE OF LIFE.

>appealing to dead civilizations from over 2000 years ago
>BAAAAAAAAWWWWWWW WHY CAN'T I HIT THE WIMMINZ EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T GET A GF
I'll provide an argument when you provide one for why "WESTERN CIVILIZATION IS TOTALLY DYING GUISE" other than "WH-WHITE PRIDE WORLDWIDE"

Those are fairly moderate views, i agree with you but i'm still going to take every opportunity i can to shill against pol and shit down their necks.
You should too because they delegitimize your views with every post they make.