When was the last time Swords were used in Modern Warfare?

Since guns were made
When was the last time two soldiers fought each other with Swords?

How common is to use cold weapons in Modern Warfare?

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Some Russian and Japanese generals fought with Katanas during the Jap-Russian war

I think the Russian general ended up killing the Jap

I wouldn't doubt a sword fight as late as the Vietnam war.

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I knew a greatson of him they are friends with the samurai family.

He is a sociopath and an asshole, practices TSKSR.

Wouldn't surprise me if there's been one in Syria

mad jack churchill carried a scottish claymore on him when on SAS commando raids in WW2

If you call this modern warfare those wars in Africa used machetes

Rwanda in 1994.

Froom wiki:

> These forces recruited and pressured Hutu civilians to arm themselves with machetes, clubs, blunt objects, and other weapons to rape, maim, and kill their Tutsi neighbors and to destroy or steal their property.
>armed themselves with machetes
>machetes

Kind of a sword...

>Russian desperately clings to his ancestor's (whom he never met) triumph and is an enormous asshole about an event he literally played no part in

Seems about right.

I'd broaden this to Africa in general. Machetes (basically a version of swords) are still used there.

The British Army mounted bayonet charges during the Falklands War (see Battle of Mount Tumbledown), the Second Gulf War, and the war in Afghanistan.[40] In 2004 in Iraq at the Battle of Danny Boy, the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders bayonet-charged mortar positions filled with over 100 Mahdi Army members. The ensuing hand-to-hand fighting resulted in an estimate of over 40 insurgents killed and 35 bodies collected (many floated down the river) and nine prisoners. Sergeant Brian Wood, of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, was awarded the Military Cross for his part in the battle.[41] In 2009, Lieutenant James Adamson, aged 24, of the Royal Regiment of Scotland was awarded the Military Cross for a bayonet charge whilst on a tour of duty in Afghanistan: after shooting one Taliban fighter dead Adamson had run out of ammunition when another enemy appeared. He immediately charged the second Taliban fighter and bayoneted him.[42] In September 2012, Lance Corporal Sean Jones of The Princess of Wales's Regiment was awarded the Military Cross for his role in a bayonet charge which took place in October 2011.[43]

Any mentioning one of the Scots used a broadsword, because that would be fucking awesome!

swords/knives still have their use in modern warfare, mostly in the form of trench knives used in WWI, and other knives used in general survival kits.

this too

but a more fun fact, the last confirmed longbow kill was in WWII from a British soldier named Jack Churchill, who was at the Normandy landings armed with a broadsword and longbow.

vice.com/en_us/article/the-strange-tale-of-the-british-soldier-who-killed-nazis-with-a-sword-and-a-longbow

American Civil War was the last major conflict where both sides used swords and even then, hand to hand combat accounted for less than 2% of all deaths.

Genocides don't count

Damn, too bad the ruskis got BTFO in pretty much every battle though.

it was commonplace when boarding ships at sea

Not exactly, it's just portrayed like that because of how extreme the loss at Tsushima was, the rest of the war was pretty bitter fighting on both ends, with the Japanese taking more casualties.

If you look at the Treaty of Portsmouth, the terms reflect that the Russians still had some pretty serious leverage.

The original Japanese demands was for Russia to evacuate Manchuria and give up claims on Korea, cede all of Sakhalin and Vladivostok to Japan, and pay a few hundred million dollars in war reparations.

What they got was giving up claims on Korea, evacuating Manchuria, and ceding half of Sakhalin, and didn't get Vladivostok and no war reparations.

China still uses swords in their military.

Due to lack of firearms, during WW2, Swords and spears were common weapons in China's fight against Japan.

Most third world nations still use swords in wars. Mad Jack was the last British man to use a sword in battle.

During WW2 a Italian cavalry unit managed to charge and efeat a Russian infantry unit. I presume that they were using sabres.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Izbushensky

That guy who took out a tank crew with a blade during the Libyan Civil War.

Those were the guerillas.

You posted a bunch of people from the "Big Sword" units, which date back since the start of the Warlord Period in 1916-17. The big sword units- formally known as the "Sword and Pistol Troop."- were tasked with infiltration and shock assaults of trenches and defenses (they were yanked from the WWI playbook after all), and so just like their shovel/club/hatchet/knife bearing trench raider counterparts in WWI, the big sword men also carried cqc weapons, in their case: mostly traditional swords, but also pistols, cavalry carbines, early smgs, and sacks of grenades.

Early in WWI, a lot of officers still carried sabres and would brandish them when storming the trenches.

Before weapons specifically designed for storm troopers, trench combat often developed into melee with bayonets and swords.

>Corporal Lolli, unable to draw, as his saber was frozen in its sheath, charged holding high a hand grenade; Trumpeter Carenzi, having to handle both trumpet and pistol, shot by mistake his own horse in the head.[2]
Yeah that's pretty much what I expect to read about any Italian military ventures.

forums.spacebattles.com/threads/peoples-liberation-army-navy-commanders-gets-new-ceremonial-swords.506498/

They still exist on modern armies (navies) today apparently.

The Japanese also had melee units called kirikomitai

Ceremonies don't count. The USMC still has a sword as part of the dress uniform.

>Ceremonies don't count. The USMC still has a sword as part of the dress uniform.

He's referring to the 1st and 2nd Battalions of Cavalry, which is a literal cavalry force and one of the last remaining horse-cavalry units of the PLA. Stationed in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, and sometimes in Tibet.

One of their standard issue field equipment is the Type 65 saber. This shit isn't ceremonial: they were literally expected to use it. They still have fucking swords because their field equipment list was largely left unchanged since 1950 because everybody just expected the cavalry to become obsolete once China modernizes.

Turned out they were still very useful in patrolling the rough plains of Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang, especially back when the helicopter was a rare vehicle in China 50 or so years ago. Hence the PLA let live at least 2 battalions of horse.

I suppose they just leave it in base while out on patrol, so it sort of makes it de facto ceremonial, but since its part of their TOE, it's not issued in a ceremonial basis.

contnd.

The saber itself - designated Type 65 Saber- is a copy of the Japanese Type 32 Saber, which was the last Kyu Gunto swords before the Japs went edgy and adopted the Katanalike Shin Gunto swords. The armies of the Republic of China KMT found loads of it amongst the Northern Warlords during the Northern Expedition, when the KMT/CCP/Southern Warlords smashed the Northern ones, many of whom were backed by Japan.

The sword was put to mass production and was therefore used by the cavalries of the KMT and the CCP.

intredasting, there must have been a lot of crazy shit going on up north during the warlords era, japs, commies, KMT, ex-Qing, bandits

the entire period was crazy.

I would personally prefer a katana to a kyu gunto. And if you consider the soldiers would already have a background in kendo giving them a saber instead makes zero sense

Imagine being that one poor German who gets killed by a fucking longbow in WW2.

Having CEREMONIAL swords and actually fighting with swords are two completely different things.

He is a Serb and he met his grandfather.

Actually he is pretty smart but still an asshole glad we aren't friends anymore.

Studies medicine in Munich

ww2 Hungarian Royal armee hussar cavalry charge... 41.08.16 capture of Nyikolajev, Hadik hussars

Erich Kern: Der grosse Rausch. Zürich, 1948. 54-55. page);

I've seem a photo taken during the Korean War (1950-1953) with a US or ROK soldier that had a sword slung on his back. Wish I could find the photo again but unfortunately Korean War is a forgotten war.
This could possibly the last modern usage of an actual sword in a war I've seen.

>And if you consider the soldiers would already have a background in kendo giving them a saber instead makes zero sense
Well it made sense in the 19th century when Japan was trying to europeanize it's way of war, but then it turned it's back to it in the 1920's. It's more to do with politics rather than what's efficient, especially since we are talking about swords in the age of machine guns.

Kendoka were still completely useless with shin-gunto anyway. That's why the gunto no soho was revised multiple times.

Details?

Considering it was Normandy he probably wasn't even German

>Soldiers

these were just warbands going around slaughtering random civilians, it doesn't really count

Blades will always have a place in warfare. However swords have been phased out for smaller blades and gun attachments so it's really just daggers and spears that get widely used.

Probably some quick-time-event in WW2 during a banzai charge, the japs would charge with swords and you just get your knife out and stab them, killing them instantly.

Not a true 'sword-fight' but pretty close.

>When was the last time two soldiers fought each other with Swords?
If you don't count conflicts between improperly equipped armies, probably ww2. Between the japs in the east and the few cavalry charges still happening in eastern Europe, that's probably it.

Fucking badass

That was partially true, though there were people even in the west in 1920 who thought the sword still had a place in warfare. Though the Japanese use was heavily fueled by nationalism and anachronistic thinking.

>Kendoka were still completely useless with shin-gunto anyway. That's why the gunto no soho was revised multiple times.

kendo was a key component of the training at Toyama military academy and similar programs.
gunto no soho was no a monolith in the military either, there were a number of systems used by the army and navy, but to a man they almost all did kendo with perhaps a few exceptions

So NCOs are technically allowed to bring swords, but most don't?

Some masters with Nakamura Taizaburo for starters thought that Kendo alone was inefficient at training people to fight with swords and that the small kenjutsu program of the Toyama academy wasn't enough to supplement it, that's why he brought Nakayama Hakudo to modify the kata training in the 1930's and then he changed it himself again in the 1940's.

Kendo was a key component, but it wasn't enough when units actually used their swords in Manchuria and China.

Is that a 1895 Winchester? What's with the cross?

>The Guominjun was unusual for being an ideological army with its troops indoctrinated in Christian, socialist, and nationalist teachings.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guominjun

what do you mean ?

Yes but like I said the Toyama gunto soho was only one method floating around the army and navy. And even Nakamura considered kendo an essential part of his training.

That said most of these military sword systems were pretty simple and a poor substitute for the older kenjutsu and iaijutsu systems

Everyday in afrika
If you consider those rusty 1990's machetes "swords"