What exactly was the point of changing the name of the country from "Russia" to a clunky...

What exactly was the point of changing the name of the country from "Russia" to a clunky, excessively long name like "The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics", the USSR, or even just "The Soviet Union"? It's just such an unwieldy and garish name that I don't see how anybody could have found it appealing. What would have been so wrong with just keeping "Russia" as the name of the country?

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Because it sounds official and dead serious like The United States of America

I believe it was because they didn't want to associate with the Tsardom in any way possible.

Because it wasn't supposed to be a nation state, it was supposed to be a world-wide state of the workers.

Because it was literally a union of soviet socialist republics, you had 15 of them including Russia.

This. I'm amazed that this isn't the first post. There were many different states within the Soviet Union besides Russia.

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Before becoming the "The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics" "Russia" as we know call it was formally known as one of the holdings of Nicholas, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias, of Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Tauric Chersonesus, Lord of Pskov, and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, and Finland; Prince of Estonia, Livonia, Courland and Semigalia, Samogitia, Bielostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugor, Perm, Vyatka, Bogar and others; Sovereign and Grand Prince of Nizhni Novgorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Jaroslavl, Beloozero, Udoria, Obdoria, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and Ruler of all the Severian country; Sovereign and Lord of Iveria, Kartalinia, the Kabardian lands and Armenian province: hereditary Sovereign and Possessor of the Circassian and Mountain Princes and of others; Sovereign of Turkestan, Heir of Norway, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and so forth, and so forth, and so forth.
Now tell me which is easier to remember.

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Sounds as russian as drunk bears

Pretty much this, at the time of proclaiming the USSR it was supposed to be a union that neighbouring states would join after the 'inevitable' revolution

>Heir of Norway
Wait, what? How did THAT particular title come to be, and be possessed by the Tsar of Russia of all people?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereditary_Kingdom_of_Norway#Heir_of_Norway

the Russian empire or Russian Federation aren't suppose to me nation states either.

Because (((they))) wanted to erase all of Russian history. It's kind of a mistake to think of USSR as "Russia" and vice versa and I'm bringing it up since I know retarded Americans do it every day. USSR wasn't just Russia wih a socialist economy, it was a completely new entity that was thoroughly non-Russian and anti-Russian.

>Because (((they))) wanted to erase all of Russian history.
The anti-commie paranoia on Veeky Forums is incredible. They never had an intention to erase Russian History. In fact, they didn't even try to get rid of Russia as a state. It still existed as the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic right from 1917 and until 1993. The USSR was supposed to be a union of equal states, similar to how the USA is.

Saying USSR wasn't anti-Russian is nonsense. Imagine a Mexican takeover of the USA and some Paco Rodriguez demolishing statues of George Washington and wiping his butt with the American constitution and then claiming it's not anti-American. Preposterous.

>murder the royal family
>persecute Russian Orthodox Church
>execute or exile Russian aristocracy and intelligentsia
>throw monarchists into labor camps or just outright kill them
>legalize homosexuality, abortions, divorce (all against Russian orthodox values)
>end Russian supremacy and enact korenizatsya (pretty much multiculturalism)
Fun fact: Lenin even wanted the alphabet to switch from Cyrilic to Latin, but he died before he could implement it. There was absolutely nothing Russian about the USSR, it was all an aggressive implementation of a thoroughly western and jewish ideology.

>>murder the royal family
>>persecute Russian Orthodox Church
>>execute or exile Russian aristocracy and intelligentsia
>>throw monarchists into labor camps or just outright kill them
A nation is more than just its rich people.

>>legalize homosexuality, abortions, divorce (all against Russian orthodox values)
All of those things were legalized in the west first, and by the way, homosexuality was illegal in the USSR starting from Stalin and until the end.

>>end Russian supremacy and enact korenizatsya (pretty much multiculturalism)
Again, only true until Stalin.

>Fun fact: Lenin even wanted the alphabet to switch from Cyrilic to Latin, but he died before he could implement it.
And Ataturk actually switched from the Arabic alphabet to the latin alphabet. Was he just anti-Turk? Keep in mind that he's remembered as the greatest Turk ever in Turkey.

>the no balkanised Russia/Siberia
There's still time tho

*tfw

>he thinks aristocracy is a synonym of "rich people"
Ameriblob spotted.

>All of those things were legalized in the west first
That was my point. They imported a foreign, degenerate, WESTERN ideology into Russia. It went directly against cherished Russian cultural values.

>And Ataturk actually switched from the Arabic alphabet to the latin alphabet. Was he just anti-Turk?
No, but he absolutely was anti-Ottoman.

>Ameriblob spotted.
They were much richer on average, yes. Just because some impoverished aristocrats existed doesn't change the fact that they were richer as a class. Same with the clergy. And by the way, both those classes were heavily resented by Russians since they sent them empty-handed to die against the Germans in ww1. In fact, that's the reason why the revolution happened in the first place.

>That was my point. They imported a foreign, degenerate, WESTERN ideology into Russia. It went directly against cherished Russian cultural values.
In the end, they still ended up more conservative and less degenerate than the west. If you look at all former-communist countries, they're still more conservative and nationalistic to this day than the west is.

>No, but he absolutely was anti-Ottoman.
Just like communists were anti-Romanov (and aristocracy in general) but not anti-Russian. The Cyrillic alphabet isn't even something that Russians invented. They imported it from Greece.

>They were much richer on average, yes.
Wealth is not what defines aristocracy. It's pedigree. I guess you are unable to comprehend this coming from a country founded by peasants where your social status is based entirely on the size of your wallet.

>In the end, they still ended up more conservative and less degenerate than the west. If you look at all former-communist countries, they're still more conservative and nationalistic to this day than the west is.
There's a reason why there are FORMER communist countries, and not communist countries. They rejected communism in the end. Oswald Spengler predicted this all the way back in 1918, that communism is fundamentally western and not compatible with Russian civilization and Russians will eventually get rid of it within 100 years.

>The Cyrillic alphabet isn't even something that Russians invented. They imported it from Greece.
Cyrilic alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet, but it's not the same thing. And it was developed by Slavic Orthodox monks in Bulgaria.

>Wealth is not what defines aristocracy. It's pedigree. I guess you are unable to comprehend this coming from a country founded by peasants where your social status is based entirely on the size of your wallet.
I didn't claim otherwise. Doesn't change the fact that aristocrats were, and still are, richer than the typical person on average. And by the way, I'm not even American.

>There's a reason why there are FORMER communist countries, and not communist countries. They rejected communism in the end. Oswald Spengler predicted this all the way back in 1918, that communism is fundamentally western and not compatible with Russian civilization and Russians will eventually get rid of it within 100 years.
Yeah, and the reason has nothing to do with how conservative or liberal the USSR was. It was all about how these people saw themselves as oppressed and poor, and had a skewed image of the west from the few western media that they could get their hands on. They basically imagined the west as some sort of Disneyland and they thought that they would become like that too. Reality turned out to be pretty different, and now many of them wish communism hadn't collapsed.

>Cyrilic alphabet is based on the Greek alphabet, but it's not the same thing. And it was developed by Slavic Orthodox monks in Bulgaria.
Fair enough, but it's still a foreign import.

Western ideologies are cancerous, doesn't mean if it's capitalism or communism. It's the same jew shit in the end.

I agree, but I'm just tired of the fact that communism is always blamed for it even though they were comparatively more conservative. And I hate how people somehow think that degeneracy would have never reached eastern Europe without communism. I don't know if you guys noticed, but it reached countries that used to be conservative and who kept their royalty in power, and it would have been the same in Russia had the tsar stayed in power.

The USSR under Stalin and Brezhnev ended up being more conservative despite communism and not thanks to it. It was the Russian volksgeist breaking through a foreign ideology.

>>That was my point. They imported a foreign, degenerate, WESTERN ideology into Russia. It went directly against cherished Russian cultural values.
Apart from its resistance to liberalism Russia effectively had spent the last three centuries trying to westernise, right down to Peter the Great

I always find it interesting how European nationalists tend to despise any European concept invented post-1500

>why did they call it the United States of America when Pennsylvannia is so much easier to say

The Soviets tried to be inclusive of all peoples not just the Russians. It differentiated itself from the Russian centered Tsardom.

Actually Armenia atacked Azerbaijan