Why do Christians try to pretend Prophet Jesus (pbuh) wasn't a Muslim and was God himself instead of a prophet of God?

Why do Christians try to pretend Prophet Jesus (pbuh) wasn't a Muslim and was God himself instead of a prophet of God?

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Why do retards post obvious shitty bait on anime forums?

Pretending this is flamebait or an attempt to false flag Muslims, you couldn't consider Jesus a Muslim (or Christian for that matter, that came after his death, he was a Jew) in the same way you couldn't consider Moses a Christian even though he has a great deal of importance in Christianity.

For the glory of God.

Same reason christians hide the fact that jesus teleported to america after his rebirth.

Islam has existed since the beginning of the world.

I guess the difference is that a Muslim is merely one who submits to God, whereas a Christian is a follower of the teachings of the Christ. So in a sense you could say Moses was a Muslim.

Why are all muslims blaspheming heretics?

Why are all mormons blaspheming heretics?

posting memri

Is this some trolling or is anyone actually so retarded to believe that?

This is just a lack of education.

because he didnt preach islam. his apostles didnt teach islam. the early church wasnt islamic. Jesus did die on the cross as recounted by pagan historians.

Prove that image wrong

I don't make pranks, user.

You fuck donkeys. Prove me wrong.

>because he didnt preach islam

This is blasphemy against Isa (pbuh)

Hot

>religion requires women to cover their hair for no reason

huge red flag desu, hair is muh fetish

"Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him."

m*slims believe Islam is the prime religion, with appointed prophets in all nations and tribes, from which all other faiths(especially the abrahamic ones) ultimately fell and got corrupted.
Yeah, it's weird, but it's an easy cop-out.

Why do you hate all Abrahamic religions?

Because they promote superstitious proscriptions against natural behavior for no reason.

How do you think the Universe exists without God my fedora wearing friend?

Where did the God come from?

God has always existed. I though everyone knew that.

Why does this exist? Who made it?

A believer in God made it for God's glory.

back in 09 someone commissioned works on 2chan that made muslims look retarded by adding weeb elements and now you have these images

porn when?

Why did sunnis deny Mohammed's (pbuh) chosen successor and closest friend and then kill Mohammed's (pbuh) beloved grandchild?

Why has there not been a single answer that addresses OP's question, just a bunch of responses that try and change the subject?

Because everyone knows arguing against religious people only strengthens their biases.
bigthink.com/think-tank/the-backfire-effect-why-facts-dont-win-arguments

You should educate yourself in an unbiased way

I took you at your own words. You said Jesus is only a prophet of God.

Jesus is God.

You are therefore a blasphemous heretic.

Jesus taught Judaism.

Is Judaism now Islam too? And the God of the Jews is now the God of the Arabs?

How many lies upon lies are you up to right now?

You can take your b8 and shove it right back up your ass

To the contrary, the quran expressly states that you can have sex with anything that is in your right hand, your animals included.

I addressed it directly as blasphemous heresy.

It's not bait. Muslims are flooding the internet with shills for Islam. It's basically cyber-propaganda.

Why do Muzzies worship the pagan god Allah and try and pass it off as the God of Abraham? Answer for your idol worship pagan.

"Fuck off with that shit. Island DESTROYED the first monotheistic religion."

>phoneposters

>The Koran describes in detail Allah defeating people of heathenistic faiths
>Islam is somehow the first religion

Really activated my almonds

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This is silly ignorance. Prophet Jesus isn't God. Why do you claim such silly nonsense?

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth." - John 1:14

"'Very truly I tell you,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'"- John 8:58

Some do so in ignorance, but most do so because they are following their spiritual father, the father of lies.

This is just silly, Adam was a Muslim. I bet you think man came from monkeys like most Christians.

*John 1:1-14

>Makes a valid argument about Islam's destruction of Iranian culture and Zoroastrianism
>"Uh shit how do I respond to this uh..:. PHONE POSTER HA I TOTALLY WON! I'M SO CLEVER!"

Because Jesus said He is God, and proved it.

Why do you claim Mohammad is a prophet of God, when he never claimed to speak to God, or for God, lived a horrific and sinful life as a murderous and idolatrous pedophile, and never made any prophecies that were not already written down in the bible?

>blue eyes

Adam didn't exist.


The entire garden of eden story is just an allegory of peace with Allah and the faults of giving in to temptation rather than submitting yourself to his will.

An Adam like figure existed, but maybe not in the most literal way possible as seen in Genesis.

The quran states that the bible is the true word of God.

Why don't you believe the quran?

If Adam is not a literal person, how is it that you exist?

>triggered

I will concede that is a possibility, but do you think Zoroaster was a Muslim as well?
>Jesus said he is god

Mark 10:17-18 has jesus reject that he is good because only god is good, and Jesus asked god why he has forsaken him on the cross.

Because the Bible states it is the true word of god, the Torah states that it is the true word of god, the vedas, Guru Granth Sahib, etc etc

When everyone claims the same thing with no strong evidence to support any of them they have equal weight from a logical standpoint, but I concede that matters of faith rarely have room for logic.

>The quran states that the bible is the true word of God

The parts that haven't been corrupted or added are.

I'm not saying Adam didn't exist. He did. It's just that we don't necessarily have to take the account in Genesis as 100% literal. The Adam found in Genesis is a slight reflection of an actual Adam like figure who did exist and who did bring original sin into the world.

Are you suggesting scripture isn't infalliable?

He clearly read the Jewish tanakh as taken by the Jews into captivity in Babylon, that morphed into captivity under the Medeo-Persian empire, and added a bit of local fire god to it and made up his own religion.

Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden; pretty sure they knew there was only one God.

Jesus did not reject the man calling him good. You misread that. Jesus set the man up for calling Jesus God, and then failing to obey a direct order from God: sell your good and give them to the poor.

The man was right to call Jesus good; the man was wrong to disobey God. And the man was exposed for worshiping Mammon (Greed), not YHWH at all.

>I bet you think man came from monkeys like most Christians.
"The organisms that can gain the new features faster are more variable. As a result, they gain advantages over other creatures. [...] The bodies are changing as a result of the internal and external interactions."
"Look at the world of animals and birds. They have all that is necessary for defense, protection and daily life, including strengths, courage and appropriate tools [organs] [...] Some of these organs are real weapons, [...] For example, horns-spear, teeth and claws-knife and needle, feet and hoofs-cudgel. The thorns and needles of some animals are similar to arrows. [...] Animals that have no other means of defense (as the gazelle and fox) protect themselves with the help of flight and cunning. [...] Some of them, for example, bees, ants and some bird species, have united in communities in order to protect themselves and help each other."
"Such humans [probably anthropoid apes] live in the Western Sudan and other distant corners of the world. They are close to animals by their habits, deeds and behavior. [...] The human has features that distinguish him from other creatures, but he has other features that unite him with the animal world, vegetable kingdom or even with the inanimate bodies. [...] Before [the creation of humans], all differences between organisms were of the natural origin. The next step will be associated with spiritual perfection, will, observation and knowledge. [...] All these facts prove that the human being is placed on the middle step of the evolutionary stairway. According to his inherent nature, the human is related to the lower beings, and only with the help of his will can he reach the higher development level."
~Tusi, Akhlaq-i-Nasri, ca 1240ish

the torah being the first five books of the bible does not make its claim contradictory to the claim that the bible is the true word of God. Both are true at the same time.

Nobody thinks the vedas, etc., are holy writ since the Buddha demonstrated they were not, and they're not taken that way today.

When everyone makes claims, scrutinize all of those claims against everything there is in order to find the truth.

Don't just throw your hands up in despair.

Evidence of corruption?

Evidence of additions?

No?

It is YHWH or El?

I see no need to take your position. It doesn't answer any questions, and it raises more doubt than anything else.

If by Adam's sin all men died, then by Adam's sin all men died. There's no getting around that.

One should then look at the world of creation. It started out from the minerals and progressed, in an ingenious, gradual manner, to plants and animals. The last stage of minerals is connected with the first stage of plants, such as herbs and seedless plants. The last stage of plants, such as palms and vines, is connected with the first stage of animals, such as snails and shellfish which have only the power of touch. The word "connection" with regard to these created things means that the last stage of each group is fully prepared to become the first stage of the next group.
The animal world then widens, its species become numerous, and, in a gradual process of creation, it finally leads to man, who is able to think and to reflect. The higher stage of man is reached from the world of the monkeys, in which both sagacity and perception are found, but which has not reached the stage of actual reflection and thinking. At this point we come to the first stage of man after (the world of monkeys). This is as far as our (physical) observation extends.
Ibn Khaldun on Evolution, Muqaddimah ca. 1375

YHWH, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. YHWH has one begotten Son, Jesus, and El has three children, Ba'al, Molech and Ashteroth.

Nice excuse faggot. Unfortunately for you, we have around 24,000 ancient manuscripts of the NT, over 5,000 of which are written in the original Greek, and they all disagree with your assertion. Plus, we also have the writings of the Church fathers who quote the New Testament in multiple texts of theirs. The New Testament has been shown, when compared side by side with other ancient manuscripts, to be 98% textually pure.

It started with light.

"Everything is the light."

--Nikola Tesla

Scripture is inerrant, not infallible. There is a difference. The Bible can be wrong in matters of science and the like, but theologically and morally it cannot be wrong. The Holy Spirit has no concern of writing a science book, but rather a theological text for humanity.

>Islam destroyed Zoroastrianism

Good riddance

By the way, most of the "errors" found are mainly grammar or spelling mistakes. If we take that to be the case, then 99.5% of the New Testament is textually pure.

The bible is not wrong on any point. The few times it touches on what you would call science, the bible is true.

If you think mankind's science surpasses God's creation or God's capabilities or God's understanding, you're delusional.

The wisdom of man, "science" , is foolishness to God.

There is literally nothing wrong with Zoroastrianism.


Or if there was we'll never know because filthy muslims destroyed the texts and practices.

Zoroastrianism is garbage. Fuck off, LARPer.

shitposting comes from Satan

No, you're just retarded. The Bible has no concern with science in the strictly scientific sense. The Bible is a theological textbook. Now, go suck your Baptist preachers cock while real Christians study and actually learn about God from his word and wisdom.

Name ONE problem with Zoroastrianism.

I say the bible is not wrong on anything, you tell me to suck some unknown person's dick, and then claim to be a Christian.

I don't know why Jesus commends people for seeing through false Christians; it's so easy a child could do it.

It's Judaism + pagan fire god.

It has nothing of Jesus in it whatsoever. It's just another way to travel down the broad road that leads to destruction.

You're right, the Bible is not wrong on anything pertaining to theology and morality. You're a false Christian. Real Christians are Orthodox. We are the first Christians, your sect was created in the 17th century.

I meant from an actual unbiased standpoint. Of course if you're actually religious you're going to hate other religions.

Also Zoroastrianism predates Judaism.

Orthodox REPRESENT!

Water does not wash away sin.
Holy Chrism does not allow the Spirit in.
Wheat grass across the face will not bless you.
In a lake of fire will you finally learn the truth.

It cannot predate its creator.

Zarathustra, also spelled Zarathushtra, Greek Zoroaster (born traditionally c. 628 bce, possibly Rhages, Iran—died c. 551 bce), Iranian religious reformer and prophet, traditionally regarded as the founder of Zoroastrianism.

britannica.com/biography/Zarathustra

>Having to use hell as a threat to justify your beliefs

Hell is the biggest meme ever invented. No truly omnibenevolent and omniscient god would approve of the concept.

*No church can save you.

None such exists but for your imagination.

bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/zoroastrian/history/zoroaster_1.shtml

The jury is still out, his birth date is heavily contested.

Adam was the first Prophet of Islam

"And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you through the resurrection of Jesus Christ," - 1 Peter 3:21 [Baptism]

"Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit." - Acts 8:14-17 [Chrismation (Confirmation in western Christianity)]

Do I need to take out the Church Fathers now, who disagree with heretics like you on every point?

Adam said there is no God but allah? Where?
Adam said Mohammad is his prophet? Where?
Adam prayed 5 times a day? Where?
Adam fasted during Ramadan? Where?
Adam gave to the poor? Where?
Adam made a Haj? Where?

Do you have any evidence that Adam was a muslim?

No?

Protestants are heretics who will burn in hell for all eternity.

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." - Matthew 7:21

Protestants don't do the will of God because MUHHHH SOLA FIDE

>something something something revisionist bullshit about submitting to god

>quoting the NIV

There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ....

As I said, water will not wash away your sins, and this is the doctrine of the Orthodox church.

Not Samaria, Cornelius' house. What bible are you using? Also, there is ZERO oil in that verse.

As I said, Holy Chrism, oil, does not allow the Spirit in.

You can cite early papist heretics if you'd like, Malaysian shitposting muslim demon possessed schizo, but like usual, nobody will care.

Which is strange, because the first submission regards Abraham and Sarai, many thousands of years later.

And of course the Arabs claim to be the proper descendants of Abraham, even though the bible makes it quite clear that the sons of the handmaiden, Hagar, do not receive the blessings of the Lord.

The sons of the child of faith, Isaac, do.

Hence the 4000 year old war between this family of Abraham's.