>be Christianity >get ruined by constant shit translations
>be Islam >currently getting ruined by unauthentic Hadiths in the Sahih books
how many fucking religions and messengers does god need to send down so we can get our shit together?
Zachary Nguyen
What's wrong with the Talmud?
David Murphy
random bullshit ramblings written by faggot ass rabbis
Austin Rivera
We're fine man, the doubtful hadiths applied by the wahabis give us bad press but I wouldn't call us ruined just for that.
Isaiah King
>how many fucking religions and messengers does god need to send down so we can get our shit together?
We didn't listen.
Jeremiah Phillips
What is good about it?
Zachary Gomez
YHWHists are literally retarded. The Israelites literally see God talking to Moses, and they still start worshipping Idols, like 200 meters away. Like, Nigga, how did you even build that thing in the 20 minutes I've been gone?
Daniel Diaz
According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell being cooked in a pool of boiling feces and semen.
Spread the word, brother. Jews hate us and everything we stand for.
Carter Brooks
Jesus was a sinner and a liar, is it really that hard to believe that God is punishing him? It helped preserve the Oral Torah. I'd consider that to be a good thing considering that it could have been lost. Underage? Or are you just stupid?
David Walker
Jews will be punished for their treachery.
Ayden Rogers
Jesus was God, and Jews hate Jesus, therefore Jews hate God.
That's why they're Atheists
Camden Cooper
>Underage? Or are you just stupid? Nope, just making a statement, the talmud is nothing but rabbis rambling and trying to twist and reinterpret the torah
Liam Wilson
Just look at it, it's badass.
And everyone knows physical Heavens and Hells are Patrician-tier.
Landon Butler
Oops, here's the picture.
Kevin Fisher
>random bullshit ramblings written by faggot ass rabbis Sorry you just sound like a moronic kid here. Perhaps you might want to do some research as to what the Talmud actually is first? It should only take an hour or so for you to comprehend what's in the wikipedia article, although that might be asking for too much. Sorry to tell you this but jesus was not God. He was just one of the many Jews who had delusions of grandeur at the time and styled himself as the Messiah, and died like so many other claimants since he was obviously NOT the Messiah.
Alexander King
Yes, but only one of those delusional Jews didn't stay dead
Lincoln Morris
>Jesus was a sinner and a liar, is it really that hard to believe that God is punishing him
Grayson Hughes
>Sorry you just sound like a moronic kid here. >you've described the talmud in a sarcastic tone so that makes your argument invalid
wikipedia: >It is written in............. and contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis like i said, slapped together by a bunch of rabbies.
it is as valid for judaism as much as random imam opinions are valid for islam.
Christian Sullivan
Hey habibi, where can I find a well translated talmud online?
Michael Green
>John 10:30 >I and the Father are one Here jesus is claiming to be God. Unless the teachers of islam have some alternate interpretation of the christian bible you have to accept that he was a sinner. Unless of course you disregard the christian bible entirely.
Justin Garcia
>1438 >there are still people unironically beliving that Jesus, peace be upon him, was not the messiah
David Russell
>God Created the universe and everything in it >Implying God is not the Universe and we aren't all part of Him
Also >John
Kevin Jackson
Not him, but the new testament is similare to our hadith compilations, the words of prophets are always somewhat altered. The biggest part of the Injeel is still true I think
Easton Taylor
Stop talking shit about jesus, shlomo
t. muslim
Jayden Sullivan
Is that an image of a Prophet?
Sebastian Watson
no, just an epic maymay
Landon White
Nigga the gemara is that but the mishnah is the oral torah, You're a dumbass.
Eli Sullivan
you must admit the framework of islam makes their job much easier and more pervasive than similar movements in christianity and judaism
Nolan Howard
>>implying that abrahamic faiths are likely to be true in particular lol
Thomas Smith
the talmund is just a collection of oral traditions and debates, and iirc the torah/tanakh are more important than the talmund. judaism still seems more interesting as a culture & religion than christianity does.
how is it treachery when jesus didn't fill judaism's messiah prophecies?
Eli Robinson
TOO GOOD FOR THIS WORLD.
John Bennett
eastern/new age shite, your religion isn't real
Jonathan Rogers
The best religions are dharmic and don't purport divine revelation.
Henry Ross
T. poo in loo
Zachary Howard
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Xavier Smith
care to name a few specifics or are you just talking out of your ass?
Kayden Rivera
>According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell being cooked in a pool of boiling feces and semen.
It doesn't say that. Yeshu is not always Jesus, there are clearly multiple Yeshus in the Talmud. Also, keep in mind there is no hell in Judaism. Quit applying Christian bullshit to Judaism. If Jesus was burning in Purgatory it was just to cleanse him of his own sins.
Caleb Barnes
This Jew is right.
Chase Nelson
read
Bentley Lopez
>>get ruined by constant shit translations
RSV, NRSV, JB, NJB, NABRE, DR, KNOX are all fine.
Isaac Ramirez
Problem is most hadiths are violent and barbaric bullshit which contradicts directly the Quran. There are no valid hadith.
Jose Cox
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Carson Sullivan
Thing is if you get rid of all hadiths you'd amputate islam.
Just follow mutawater hadiths, they are the most essential, and 100 percent authentic
Lincoln Martin
They're all altered, look for example the part about the crucifixion, why did the translators remove the name "jesus" from jesus barabass, keeping only barabass?
this is not only disrespectful to a holy book but also blasphemous as holy books are not to be tampered with
Jonathan Morales
t. pagan
Luke Adams
>God was a sinner Synagogue of Satan isn't welcome on Veeky Forums.
Jace Mitchell
>be Atheist >enjoy the Zohar >enjoy sufi & quranic thought >enjoy jansenist theology
You just have to pick the right sources.
Juan Perry
>sufi thought i like to break dance on graves too
Aiden Morales
I was more refering to islamic monism and its conception of determinism in general.
Nolan Sullivan
It is in the Zohar actually,
In the Talmud, Jesus is considered as an heretic and a sorcerer, as for Mary she is considered as a cheap whore that fucked a Roman legionary know as Panthera(perhaps a pun with the greek pateras which mean father in greek)
Benjamin Perez
Joseph got cucked I see
Wyatt Martinez
Abrahamics, when will they learn?
Aiden Cox
>The teachings of Mohammad are the way, he is the last prophet and his word is absolute. >The Quran is the holy book of Islam and the absolute authority of spirituality, anything contained outside of it and treated as a holy law is blasphemy. >Muslims routinely follow practices not mentioned in the Quran, often written by men with no direct relation to Mohammad that never claim to be him, and treat it as gospel. >Sometimes it's not even written, it's just tradition that they treat as though it were sacred. Can somebody PLEASE explain to me what the fuck this is about. This seems blatantly contradictory to me but tons of Muslims do it. Am I missing something?
Easton Cook
>how many fucking religions and messengers does god need to send down so we can get our shit together?
None. An all powerful god would not need any messengers to make his will known to his creation.
Jose Bennett
There is nothing wrong with respectfully dancing on a grave. Context matters, for the same reason sacred phalli in eastern religions are not obscene at all
Easton Martin
>>Muslims routinely follow practices not mentioned in the Quran, often written by men with no direct relation to Mohammad that never claim to be him, and treat it as gospel. like what? elaborate please
Logan Baker
>implying the Talmud isn't the greatest thing about Judaism
Nice try goy
Camden Murphy
>DUDE GOYS ARE CATTLE LMAO >DUDE FUCKING A 3 YEAR OLD LMAO ITS ONLY A TEMPORARY PAIN >DUDE IF YOU WANT TO COMMIT EVIL DO IT IN A GOY LAND LMAO
suuuuure.
Mason Kelly
>be Buddhism >remain untainted because you have no dogma other than the fact that there is consequences for being a hedonistic dickhead
William Gray
>be buddhism >die
Jeremiah Torres
>be buddhism >die >have no problem with it
Aiden Adams
if a religion dies off/goes extinct means it's false.
Sebastian Evans
It turns out that any religion based on revelation is liable to be infested with false prophecy.
Justin Sullivan
Oh then I guess Islam is the one true faith
Blake Barnes
just how did you come to this conclusion?
Jordan Anderson
So that means Christianity is false? Good riddance to you jew lovers.
John Russell
My understanding is that they follow that shit as supplements, but it's not supposed to contradict the Qaran and there's a pecking order of authority based on source. It's not 'gospel' in the sense that it can't override the Qaran, only compliment it.
could be wrong though I'm not a scholar on that shit.
Dominic Jenkins
Its certainly winning the numbers game and given how Islam is taking over European society it will only become more influential.
Elijah Rogers
>given how Islam is taking over European society I pray you're just young and dumb and not genuinely this stupid
Benjamin White
>given how Islam is taking over European society it will only become more influential. i hopes you is of not serious comrade
Also, the fact that you neglect that christianity is growing african/south american/slavic shitholes makes you look dumb
Isaiah Wood
>christianity is extinct in what timeline?
Nolan Jenkins
Not only do I look dumb I am dumb as well
Aaron Thompson
Talmud doesn't say any of that
David Foster
Saudis need to be destroyed desu.
Angel Flores
>a gentile who studies the torah must die -sanhedrin 59a
Nathan Long
Maimonides, one of the most influential Rabbis ever wrote on just that point. It's a mistranslation, it was "corrupt the Torah," not study it. Rambam writes that the prohibition of teaching a non-Jew is not because the non-Jew may not learn Torah. (It is alright for him to learn as long as he is not "grabbing" the Torah for himself). Rather, it is because he will torment us if he finds the Torah not to his liking. Based on this, he writes that it is permitted to teach Catholics the Torah (since they accept that the Torah is Divine and will not find fault in it) but it is prohibited to teach Muslims Torah (since they do not believe that our Torah is Divine, and they will torment us if they find fault in it).