Stoicism - Marcus Auraleuis

>Romans
Bottom tier civilization
Captcha: LUPINE piazza

>dude like it's just my duty to make massive statues glorifying my every move
>also it's like my duty to attempt to literally genocide the germans
>just like do your duty as a slave lmoa

>wehr boo talking about genocide

im a francaboo i just like to make fun of marcus

>Is there any possibility that vedic/Buddhist philosophy entered the Mediterranean from the Graeco-Indian Kingdom?
thats a documented thing you know

Had his comparatively small genocide of the germanic people been successful countless lives lost in petty wars would have been spared, not to mention literally preventing the largest genocide in human history.

>dude stoicism has easily identifiable faults haha
>just be a slave and worship some eastern cult leader cause he understands your struggles
>shits gonna be fuckin sweet when you die though

Really?
I would greatly appreciate any sources on that.

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Favorite quotes from Meditations?

>Men seek retreats for themselves, houses in the country, sea-shores, and mountains; and thou too art wont to desire such things very much. But this is altogether a mark of the most common sort of men, for it is in thy power whenever thou shalt choose to retire into thyself. For nowhere either with more quiet or more freedom from trouble does a man retire than into his own soul, particularly when he has within him such thoughts that by looking into them he is immediately in perfect tranquility; and I affirm that tranquility is nothing else than the good ordering of the mind. Constantly then give to thyself this retreat, and renew thyself; and let thy principles be brief and fundamental, which, as soon as thou shalt recur to them, will be sufficient to cleanse the soul completely, and to send thee back free from all discontent with the things to which thou returnest. For with what art thou discontented? With the badness of men? Recall to thy mind this conclusion, that rational animals exist for one another, and that to endure is a part of justice, and that men do wrong involuntarily; and consider how many already, after mutual enmity, suspicion, hatred, and fighting, have been stretched dead, reduced to ashes; and be quiet at last.

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>But perhaps thou art dissatisfied with that which is assigned to thee out of the universe.- Recall to thy recollection this alternative; either there is providence or atoms, fortuitous concurrence of things; or remember the arguments by which it has been proved that the world is a kind of political community, and be quiet at last.- But perhaps corporeal things will still fasten upon thee.- Consider then further that the mind mingles not with the breath, whether moving gently or violently, when it has once drawn itself apart and discovered its own power, and think also of all that thou hast heard and assented to about pain and pleasure, and be quiet at last.- But perhaps the desire of the thing called fame will torment thee.- See how soon everything is forgotten, and look at the chaos of infinite time on each side of the present, and the emptiness of applause, and the changeableness and want of judgement in those who pretend to give praise, and the narrowness of the space within which it is circumscribed, and be quiet at last. For the whole earth is a point, and how small a nook in it is this thy dwelling, and how few are there in it, and what kind of people are they who will praise thee.

This then remains: Remember to retire into this little territory of thy own, and above all do not distract or strain thyself, but be free, and look at things as a man, as a human being, as a citizen, as a mortal. But among the things readiest to thy hand to which thou shalt turn, let there be these, which are two. One is that things do not touch the soul, for they are external and remain immovable; but our perturbations come only from the opinion which is within. The other is that all these things, which thou seest, change immediately and will no longer be; and constantly bear in mind how many of these changes thou hast already witnessed. The universe is transformation: life is opinion.

Your mom isn't a virgin

He's right though. Don't fool yourself. Just keep it under control.

Read Epistulae morales by Seneca

They tend to be short and they are easy to understand- They also outline Seneca's (and the Stoics') opinion on many questions about life and the purpose of philosophy quite well

en.wikisource.org/wiki/Moral_letters_to_Lucilius

Seneca wrote these letters to the (fictional) Lucilius, a young Roman, who is being taught about stoicism and ethics by Seneca

>Tfw when you will never have the writings Zeno to truly understand the original stoic thought

>to the (fictional) Lucilius

Was he fictional? I never understood it that way, I'm pretty sure at points he talks about sending things to and receiving things from him.

I wasn't so sure about it

I learned back in Latin class he is fictional, but I've also heard otherwise. That's why I put it in paranthesis

Guess he is not fictional, but as the letters have also been published by Seneca, he may have also written them at least partly for literary purpose with Lucilius as the stereotypical young man, that is interested in philosophy

Look up The Shape of Ancient Thought/s by Thomas McEvily

The transplantation of ideas happened in few different phases. Atleast as detailed in the book.

First when they were all from the same nomadic tribe near the caucus/ukraine. Second when the Indian idea entered the Greek discussion when the Persian empire stretched controlled parts of both(also known as pre-socratic ideas). This is where you get the whole monistic, reincarnation, etc. Third is when the developed Greek logic/dialogue/format propagated towards India after the conquest of Alexander and the mingling of Greeks/Indians took place around afghan/pakistan with large Greek buddhist commmunities. This is where the dialectic tradition of Buddhism developed from. Also why the "Questions of Milinda" dialogue format looks quite Greek-like. I think the author highlights few more, but don't quite remember.