What would modern music sound like if Germany had won the second world war?
They considered jazz to be degenerate African-American music and they actively suppressed it within Germany. With jazz verboten throughout the world, it's hard to see how rock and roll and its many offshoots could have appeared.
Perhaps its possible that electronic music would have still come about, but its roots were already laid in the 1920s by Soviet national Léon Theremin, a figure unlikely to gain prominence in a victorious post-war Germany.
In general, I don't believe it's accurate to say that the Nazis hated modern aesthetics in all its forms. In fact they embraced architectural and cinematic forms which were quite progressive for their time. So, how would German music have evolved?
>no rap, metal, punk, hiphop and other retarded negroid genres Frankly that would be heaven.
Xavier Wood
It would be all orchestral type stuff.
Ryder Diaz
While I do believe to be true, I still think that, because of human nature, subjects of the Nazi regime (worldwide or not) would still be on the never ending quest for the next new sound. Orchestral music would probably get heavier and we would most likely still see a rock movement but with long instrumental pieces.
Liam Thomas
Firstly, jazz was never completely erased during ww2. Nazi's preferred to use the method of persuasion, rather than straight out banning. Jazz remained in existence, and was even pretty popular in some instances. As for the question of what music would be like if the Nazi's had won the war, it is mostly unknowable, but I believe that rock music would definitely still exist in some form for numerous reasons. As for electronic music, this could be hard to say. It is a fact that countries like Germany, Italy, and France greatly contributed to electronic music after shortly after WW2, but we have to think about how the Nazi's would have viewed it. The futurism art movement (which was started by Italian fascists) received some criticisms from some Germans for being degenerate and not traditional enough, while others thought it was forward-thinking and ambitious. I would place it in the same boat as this. While we're on the subject, communists in Russia and China did a far more effective job at banning music. Especially China.
Jayden Miller
Honestly, nazis were turboplebs
Nathaniel Barnes
This
Jace Reyes
That's right user, professor Schekelbaum told me that jazz is a high class patrician music and only plebs listen to Mozart and Beethoven.
Anthony Jackson
They certainly weren't when it came to classical music. Germany is well known for having many of the greatest and most important composers and conductors of all time. Keep in mind that there were in fact still people alive from the Romantic period during the 30's and 40's
Asher Rogers
Define won Do they conquer America or what
Noah Bell
>It's good because it's old! >I am le redpilled! Marinetti is spinning in his fucking grave
Not that guy and neither am I defending the Nazis but you're a fucking retard if you think people only like Mozart because his music is old.
Ethan Wright
Most cpnductors did not like the Nazis. Furtwangler was furious at Hitler for how many composers and conductors fled into exile because of the Nazis. Strauss was on their bad side too.
Nathan Rogers
Oh course. I like Mozart. He's one of if not the best example of culture from his time. That doesn't excuse turbo autist like the Nazis that insist that new genres cannot be good, not on artistic merit, but because they are new
Carter Baker
Hehe
Jazz music is pretty diverse nowadays. Just look for jazz fussion and avoid free jazz until you understand its roots generally.
Jazz audience are mostly people with experience with other genres such as pop, rock, classical music, etc. Lots of people have interiorized the chords and generic scales-armonic sounds, so it's kind of hard to look for new original armonic sets of progressions.
Michael Sanchez
No rap, rock, metal, or any music deemed degenerate and offensive, I would miss Jazz though The high class music would still be largely orchestral, the average, everyday 'pop' music would probably be based on folk music, or piano and violin based melodic music, basically a very European form of /comfy/ youtube.com/watch?v=9HTcVovJxFg
this feels like all those generic female vocalists and acoustic guitar covers of nirvana
Brayden Foster
t. can't have fun
Carter Sullivan
Yet another reason to burn down churches.
Wyatt King
>not wanting musical variety >larping as a Nazi >using classical music to make-believe like you have class
This thread is full of wehrboos pretending they're are anything other than fedora turboautists. Why don't you broaden your musical horizons and listen to a lot of stuff you unforgivable plebs.
Andrew Garcia
...
Levi Gutierrez
it would sound like kraftwerk or rammstein
Lucas Jenkins
wow, this literal propaganda that makes no attempt at giving the whole picture sure convinced me
Nathan Foster
Jazz wasn't banned in Germany, if I remember correctly this piece of propaganda was set up by some german governor/mayor who hated jazz himself, but it doesn't reflect the opinion of nazis as a whole.
Ryan Martin
Nazis radio was mixing jazz with antisemite speech. it is shown that a humble melody will convince you to do the worst crimes
John Perez
I don't see how jazz doesn't still exist in that case. Lots of it is heavily related to the big band stuff which is just more lounge-like orchestral stuff.
Chase Ortiz
>On a yellow-orange background, the large painting (8 feet high and 6 feet wide) depicts a black woman wearing a blue robe, a traditional attribute of the Virgin Mary. The work employs mixed media, including oil paint, glitter, and polyester resin, and also elephant dung, map pins and collaged pornographic images. The central Black Madonna is surrounded by many collaged images that resemble butterflies at first sight, but on closer inspection are photographs of female genitalia; an ironic reference to the putti that appear in traditional religious art. A lump of dried, varnished elephant dung forms one bared breast, and the painting is displayed leaning against the gallery wall, supported by two other lumps of elephant dung, decorated with coloured pins: the pins on the left are arranged to spell out "Virgin" and the one on the right "Mary".
Such beauty, such grace. A great homage to her heritage, her parents must be so proud of her.
Brody King
...
Jaxson Reed
Wait, so what is your solution? Ban any art that is found detrimental to the people?
Really speaks to the emotional and mental weakness of the Nordic people in your image if they're that easily converted to degeneracy by art.
Noah Walker
Electro-wagner
Jace Stewart
We would all be super evolved space conquestidors and music would be irrelevant.
Justin Scott
>music would be irrelevant.
Benjamin Barnes
>Nordic man >shows roman and greeks statues Wait what, didn't you fuckers help with the destruction of rome ?
Leo Sullivan
It has nothing to do with being old or new. Jazz is shit because it's literally nigger music.
Daniel Miller
Hope you really like classical.
Jaxon Cruz
>n general, I don't believe it's accurate to say that the Nazis hated modern aesthetics in all its forms. In fact they embraced architectural and cinematic forms which were quite progressive for their time.
Not true, anything that was innovative or related to the expressionist movement was banned, even though several of the authors and artists originally supported the far right in Germany only to be backstabbed later for not being neoclassical
Liam Martin
Yeah, Stravinsky comes to mind.
Easton Ross
>we would most likely still see a rock movement but with long instrumental pieces A world where progressive rock is the only rock? Now there's an argument for "the good guys lost" that I can get behind.
Carter Gomez
Why does everybody hate prog rock?
Nathaniel Thomas
it is bloated and self-indulgent
Daniel Ross
Don't act like electric cello solos wouldn't be rad.
Jackson Morales
Jew?
Alexander Perry
Richard Wagner on repeat.
Someone have that screencap from /mu/ explaining how pleb the nazis were when it comes to music?
Dominic White
Nah, I just have yet to see an electric cello(or other classical string instruments for that matter).
Dylan Stewart
>Really speaks to the emotional and mental weakness of the Nordic people in your image if they're that easily converted to degeneracy by art. >HAHA you think X is bad for people? You must be weak!
Everytime with you degenerates. Be it drugs, pornography, music, movies, or art, you ALWAYS try to imply your opponent is some how weak for not appreciating filth.
Lucas Nelson
most music would be darker, as they changed the tone we tune our instruments to, A used to be at 432 Hz, and they shifted it to 440 Hz
It's from Veeky Forums. Just search in the archive with the keyword 'NSDAP' and 'music'.
Asher Carter
There's nothing wrong with not appreciating it. There is something wrong with wanting the state to ban it because you don't like it.
Connor Perez
one ear is jewish, the other aryan
Zachary Ortiz
music in general is pretty degenerate, people have ear phones on their head constantly are always the worst kind of people without exception, constantly having a need to be stimulated by music is a sign of low iq
Xavier White
So it's shit because of reasons that have nothing to do with music? Wehracucks are cringier than their idols
Adam Garcia
Do you literally spend you entire life ensuring that everything you consume has literally no connection to black people?
You're literally the white version of those people who complain about literature being full of dead white dudes. Congratulations on being that incredibly petty and childish.
Charles Cruz
Well, that's just like, your opinion man.
Leo Phillips
So you want the state to tell you what things you are allowed to look at and what things you aren't allowed to?
Isaiah Diaz
some "art" should be illegal tbqh
Blake Reed
>no jazz >no blues >no rock >no metal >no hip hop >no any type of good modern music at all
hitler was literally the "music defener" of his time. a cringey, "born in le wrong generation XD" edgelord. the type of kid who would be wearing a fedora, oversized jeans, sneakers, and listening to the beatles over and over on his ipod in middle school while autistically lashing out on people that make fun of his sanctimonious, "better than you" attitude while simultaneously being a retarded socially inept sperg.
enjoy listening to the same 4 wagner pieces on repeat, stormfags.
Adam Rogers
...
Aaron Wilson
Which types? If you're referring to the type that takes advantage of young children or those who don't want to be part of it (child porn and legitimate rape porn) then you're right.
However, too often I hear people calling for the banning of stuff like Piss Christ or what posted.
Leo Martin
>beatles Joe Cocker's cover of With a little help from my friends is beautiful.
Grayson Foster
>Bloated Yeah >Self-indulgent So?
Noah Rogers
>punk Rock hasn't been black since Elvis
>metal >What's NSBM?
Henry Russell
>ensuring that everything you consume has literally no connection to black people Besides music that's not really hard to do.
>Wehracucks >using reddit lingo
Adam Rogers
>what's NSBM Subhuman LARPers playing nigger music while screeching about how much they hate niggers?
Jeremiah Carter
And anime is made by a bunch of buck toothed, greased hair, slanty eyed sons of bitches, yet here you are in Veeky Forums
Gavin James
I don't like anime.
Jonathan Parker
The Japanese are honorary Aryans
Logan Bell
Only a few niggers are able to make good jazz. If you knew about it, you would notice it.
James Powell
And yet you're on Veeky Forums
>These non whites are okay because daddy Adolf said so!
Nolan Walker
As a (((((((((((((((((ju))))))))))))) I'd be hard pressed to find more than 0.1% of us who like or make this kind of stuff. Get fucked wehraboo.
Easton Bailey
So what? I don't have to like it.
Robert Ward
>Everything I don't like is filth
Ryan Rivera
You realize that most top tier Nazis were Atheists, Pagans, and Spiritualists, and that while Hitler outwardly kept good relations to the Deutsche Christen he actually hated the church to the core and had a plan in place to destroy it after the Endsieg, and that Himmler planned to replace it with a "cult of the Teutons" that would have had pagan SS priests?
If you think Christianity would have survived the Nazis winning the war, you are a massive retard.
Leo Sanders
>what would music sound like?
100x better
Henry Murphy
>haha fucking turboplebs, they can't understand the deep artistic significance of Gucci Mayne and other non white music artists, lol I'm so glad i listen to diverse music I hate being white I'm so tolerant and cultured
Gabriel Miller
Do you really think people give a shit about the ethnicity of artists over the actual music they create?
Jayden Bell
If I want to listen to someone masturbating I can open up pornhub
Landon Long
This is why Italian Fascism will always be better than poor dumb Nazi scum Niggas had noise musicians in their ranks
Samuel Murphy
he's projecting
Levi Brown
So liking chan-style websites despite the fact that are originally Japanese is fine, but liking jazz because it's originally black isn't?
Ethan Nelson
>good >modern music
Jack King
The state already does man.
Bentley Barnes
>Do you really think people give a shit about the ethnicity of artists over the actual music they create? Of course they do. If they didn't hip-hop would not be dominated by African Americans. "Authenticity" is a huge component of the genre and most people aren't able to suspend their disbelief and believe Joe White Rapper is a respected figure in the African American criminal underworld.
Parker Butler
Not really, so long as it's not child pornography other work that deeply impacts the subject of the work I can look at anything.
Do you have any good evidence to back that up?
Benjamin Bell
Like anybody likes any jazz that isn't decades older than themselves.
Adrian Jenkins
Except that one of the biggest selling rap artists of all time is a white dude. Eminem's whiteness never slowed him down from becoming one of the most respected rappers of all time. Really, the biggest reason rap is dominated by black people is because rap tends to be urban and focus on the issues of poverty and racism. This makes the underlying themes in rap more receptive to the poor black community.
Henry White
That's the beauty of fascism. Every nation is to have it's own version that suits it's peoples and their temperaments. Diversity.
Chase Foster
It would be cold and soulless, just like Germans.
Daniel Hall
That's the beauty of fascism. Every nation is to have it's own version that suits the state and its temperaments. Diversity.