Imagine being a Byzantine, imagine you lost more than half of your clay to Bulgarians, Arabs and other barbarians, but then you manage to recover and reconquer northern levant, Bulgaria, Balkans and Armenia.
Then this guy appears
Imagine being a Byzantine, imagine you lost more than half of your clay to Bulgarians, Arabs and other barbarians...
Oliver Carter
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Nicholas Fisher
High test as fuck. Would gladly be cucked by.
Gavin Thomas
That's just a native Anatolian, the average Byzantine probably looked like that.
The Turks looked like this when they first rolled in
Robert Torres
Actually wrong
Turks descended from Turkmens, not Kazakhs. That means Turks were enriched by Persians. So the look varied from persian to half mongoloid. Like pic related.
Wyatt Morgan
Alpha fingol, alpha horse and alpha bird. Greeks never stood a chance.
Adrian Foster
Bullshit. We can't use modern phenotypes to guess ancient ones.
For all we know, Seljuks were enriched by the Scyths just as the Tatars are.
Julian Gomez
Epic meme
>Bullshit. We can't use modern phenotypes to guess ancient ones.
Nice backpedalling m8
Jeremiah Cook
Turks have nothing to do with Turkmenistan anyway, like less than 5% Central Asian
Samuel Long
Are you sure about that, underage armchair geneticist?
Do you actually want me to post Eurogenes results to buttblast you again?
Jordan Barnes
Read this chart carefully, it's facts and you can't deny it.
Aaron Kelly
I'm not but the likelihood of the Seljuk looking like that guy are about the same as them looking Turkmen. Let's not forget that Tamerlane encouraged interbeeding and Turkification in his realm.
Autism? You keep posting that in every thread.
Brody Cooper
"read this chart carefully"
You do realize you're the only guy who can't read the chart right? it's like you're totally trying to cover that the turk mongol dna ranges from 5% to 25%?
>facts
now let's talk about actual genetics.
Isaac Price
Because it's accurate, mohammed
Elijah Cruz
It literally is not.
You're that buttblasted rapebaby or that retarded romeaboo amerifat that's been trying to memeforce "le elite domination theory" by shitposting about knowing nothing about actual genetics, central asian/turkish history.
Logan Walker
shitposting about it while knowing*
Chase Price
It's not fully accurate and you see whatever you want in it.
Jonathan Howard
What a retarded cockroach, that chart is super accurate and using all the latest tools
And if anything what you posted confirms what I said, retard.
Camden Scott
Well the Seljuks were probably varied in their looks. Otherwise i'd not look chink. But i don't think they looked pure mongoloid at all. As an another user said they probably looked from Persian to Half-Mongoloid.
Silence fatty.
>And if anything what you posted confirms what I said, retard.
You said:
>turks are not related to Turkmens
>only 5% maybe
meanwhile an average Turk is more than 50% related to Turkmens, 25% to 80% on average depending how how much Mongoloid/West Asian dna a Turk has.
Now please read a book, learn about genetic calculators on gedmatch and then come back.
I also suggest you to read about Seljuk/Oghuz/Early Ottoman history.
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David Scott
Mongoloid+Persian isn't the full mix.
Western Turkic people descend also from East Scythians. Turkmen mixing with Persians dilluted both.
Austin Cox
By Persian i also meant Eastern Iranic peoples.
Jack Perez
Iranians are genetically extremely distinct from them and Tajiks aren't identical either although they at least have something to do with them.
East Scythians were their own thing despite linguistic ties.
Lucas Brooks
Not entirely sure about that. But they were a caucasoid people, not mongoloid.
Ayden White
East Scythians became progressively more Mongoloid admixed over the centuries. West Scythians did too but more like in a Finn-tier way.
It's all in the paper.
Still, Turkmen aren't just East_Scythian+Mongol but heavily Iranian as well.
Jason Price
so some butthurt armenian went in and painted a monobrow, a mustache, hair and an ataturk tatoo on the guy
what the fuck famalams
Joshua Morales
Thrace was pretty much already lost when the Bulgarians got there.