Thoughts on the newly announced Trojan War Series by BBC and Netflix?

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Anglos are a joke.

BBC is literally run by jews that push this shit into everything they do

Well, leaving aside the /pol/tard arguments, Trojans were from modern day Turkey so they were fairly black skinned, maybe not as much as people from Central Africa but they still were more "black" than they were "white", that's for sure.

I'm willing to bet they looked like Spaniards

Don't really see how it's any different to theatre casting conventions, or why people that care about niggers in their tv dramas feel having anglos play inhabitants of greece and asia minor is a non-issue

Leaving aside the fact that Achilles and Patroklos weren't Trojans

Do these people fucking look black to you

>not filming troy in actual fucking troy
wtf

Asia minor was brown, so blacks are as good as whites to play them in my book

Pic related is a Mycenean from greece and they were also pretty dark skinned compared to modern Europeans

because troy just has ruins now?

That looks like a Minoan slave. Minoans traded with Egypt, probably got some blacks in exchange for amphorae and olive oil.

A slave dressed well in Mycenean fashion and playing the harp happily?

Don't thik so

Neither Achilles nor Patroklos were Trojan ffs, they were Achaean. And no, ancient Anatolians would not have been very dark-skinned, given the geographic location. However, that is irrelevant as they made Trojans white, according to the cast.

Trojans white?

Not weirder than Myceneans being black in my book

the trojan war was between seapeoples and hittites, and those groups were black, so...

>these people are black according to liberals

Trojans were not Hittites, they were Hittite vassals sometimes but we don't know their ethnicity

Far as I know, art of the peoples located in Greece had a common convention in depicting men as dark-skinned and women as light-skinned, to represent the tan working men would have. Also, far as I know, Achaeans were part of the indoeuropean migratory tribes. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Turks didn't populate the area at the time. But no, Trojans wouldn't have been black.

surely you can identify the negroid features of these two peoples?

Turk here. We wuz trojans and shit. we are and wuz white and shiat.
>Mehmed II visited the site of Troy and boasted that he had avenged the Trojans by conquering the Greeks (Byzantines)

Anglo idea of diversity is a planet full of black males

Sounds like you're own cuckold fantasy

Mainland Middle and late bronze age inhabitant of Greece spoke GREEK, this doesn't mean they were pure Yamnaya fresh out of Ukraine, it just means that sometime in the bronze age the native farmer inhabitants of Greece MIXED with some Indoeuropean speaking people, saying that they were Indoeuropean migrating tribes is misleading considering most of the Greek genetic ancestry comes from ANATOLIA and that mainland GREEKS adopted a lot from the MINOAN civilization, a civilization located mainly on Crete with influence over the Aegean islands and some parts of MAINLAND Greece and Western Anatolia, the MAINLAND Greek burrowed architecture, art and sea vessels from the MINOANS, their script, Linear B, which conveyed GREEK, was influenced heavily by the MINOAN script, Linear A, which conveyed an UNKOWN language belonging to an ISOLATED langauge family, Greek was also spoken on CRETE from 1450 bc onward and a lot of the Linear B CORPUS of tables comes from KNOSSOS, which was a POWERHOUSE at the time, with as much as 100 WAR CHARIOTS, as documented from LINEAR B tablets

EXCELLENT picture

I've always noted the EXTREME similarities between the warriors depicted in Late bronze age CYPRUS, and the CONTEMPORARY depiction of sea peoples at the MEDINET Habu temple in EGYPT, Cyprus seems to have been an OPERATIVE BASE of some sort for the sea people, and in FACT we see the arrival of many different ethnicities in LATE BRONZE AGE CYPRUS and vice versa we see CYPRIOT ingots and pottery appearing all over the MEDITERRANEAN, even in the FAR WEST, very, very INTERESTING, Cyprus is CRUCIAL in understanding the identity of the infamous SEA PEOPLES

Turks were just the Ottoman ruling class. Your average peasant or worker still looks the same.

Greek is an indo-european language. And stop typing like a jackass

This.
Take a look at agean turkey and you'll get a idea of how trojans should look like.

the achaeans aka ancient black mountain tribes displaced by white dorian aryan invaders attacked the black trojans ("the sea peoples") thus unleashing their savage fury across the middle east, thereby causing the bronze age collapse.

Yep, if anything they would look whiter prior to Turkification
Coastal Thracian Turks today still look whiter than their inner and eastern Anatolian counterparts

>Anglos in charge of anything.
That's an insult to the entire Western Civilization too.

READ my post again, RETARD with an AGENDA and FEW brain cells

Nah I'm not Anglo.

They never give inappropriate roles to Chinese/Indians or whatever. It's always the black pet who gets the white roles.

Thats a bit too simple desu.
In general turks have 15% central asian admixture aside from that turkey is really diverse in phenotypes.

you can only imagine the amount of fear the egyptians had for the black warrior...

OR you are a retarded nigger or too much cuckoldry IR porn has burn your brain, but Acheans were the Indo European invaders. The people natural there would have looked like Balkanites.

>Thoughts on the newly announced Trojan War Series by BBC and Netflix?
>(«ξανθῆς δὲ kόμης ἕλε Πηλεΐωνα» = "she (Athena) grabbed Achilles by his blonde hair"; Iliad, 1.197
achilles is blond

are they going to let Gyasi's hair grow and dye them blond

a blond afro perhaps

I think a lot of Turks in Thrace are muslims that lived in the balkans and resettled there after they were driven out

Your post assumes that the antolians were living in Greece during the bronze age which they weren't.

Such an obsessed like cuck

Please stop capitalizing random words. It's making your post a pain to read.

>Black peole shouldn't get inappropriate roles because it's disgustingly retarded to worship a specific race
>hurr durr your cukety cuck cuck nothing wrong with a little BBC cuck

>Your post assumes that the antolians were living in Greece during the bronze age which they weren't.

Your reading comprehension is below average, I said that Greeks, like ALL South Europeans MOSTLY descend from Anatolia, as PROVEN by modern Genetic studies

The native inhabitants of HELLADIC Greece were already settled, and in some cases they had towns and small palaces, reminiscent of the much bigger and refined palaces of Minoan Crete, The later "Mycenean" Greeks ower a LOT from these Helladic/Minoan people, and didn't displace the natives, but mixed with them, creating a new ethnicity, this is what common sense dictates, they were Indoeuroepan?

YES, this doesn't really mean they were "migrating" tribes as they were both the descendants of migrating Indoeuropean tribes AND of settled semi-urbanized Minoan influenced Helladics

Yeah your obsessed with both Brits and Blacks. Your faggot ass probably dreams of going to london

>modern

There are places in Greece today where the natives were driven out of by slavic tribes in the 600's ad. And the people from Anatolia came during the Byzantine and Ottoman times

*smacks lips*

why did people start speaking greek in crete? can we learn anything from the cretan dialect today (if there is such a thing?). was the minoan language indoeuropean? were there any languages related to it? why did crete even birth a civilization to begin with that had so much influence? why were they so powerful and then, suddenly, the island was irrelevant for the rest of history? so many questions?

I mean if its a south african movie its reasonable for them to recast it in local terms. How is it different from descendants of the Goths and Vandals to cast themselves as Romans, Greeks, Jews and even Egyptians in historical and biblical dramas. For fuck sake even as american Indians westerns and in some extreme cases as extraterrestrial aliens like klingons even when you can clearly see that they are humans.

Yep, pretty much the remainder of whats native Anatolian used looks like
Coastal western Anatolian peninsula has always been part of traditional greek hemisphere until Turkish invasion, while the northeast Anatolia are genetically the same as Armenians and Georgians, the southern parts has Semitic and Indo-Iranic influence, overall its safe to assume that they're not black, and look simillar to modern day Turks, safe for few Turkic/Arabic admixture

Klingons are made up.

It's not South African. It's BBC.

I was going to make the exact same post. Given that South Africa is 80% black, it would make sense to use local, black actors. But it's not a South African film, it's just a BBC film being filmed in South Africa, and the cast isn't made of locals either.

>why did people start speaking greek in crete?

Because an elite of Greek warriors imposed its rule over Crete, however other local languages were not completely abandoned as we see that Eteocretan was spoken even during the iron age, archaeologists debate over what exactly happened and how Minoans interacted with Myceneans, the last publication I've talked about how the previous order was kept the same and the changes were minor and how the dominant ethnicity was still Minoan, but of course all migrations that happened so far back in time it is impossible to know exactly how these events transpired.

>was the minoan language indoeuropean?

No, it was a language isolate

> were there any languages related to it?

We don't know and some hypothesis have been made to connect it with other non indoeuropean languages but the evidence for such hypothesis is flimsy at best

>why did crete even birth a civilization to begin with that had so much influence?

Interesting, I've also noted how during the bronze age almost all the Mediterranean islands saw the development of very peculiar and prolific cultures

>suddenly, the island was irrelevant for the rest of history?

This is inaccurate, Crete was the first Greek territory to see the development of life sized human sculptures (the famous kuroi) around 600 bcm, and one of the few places which remained semi-civilized after the BA collapse and which entertained strong relationships with Phoenicians through the early iron age, it also was still relevant through the late bronze age under Mycenean influence, as I've said before Knossos was perhaps the biggest city in all of Mycenean Greece (with maybe Pylos rivaling its size) and it also had by far the most active port west of Syria, Kommos the port of Phaistos, which saw the arrival of mainland Greek, Anatolian, Cypriot, Canaanite and even Sardinian pottery in large quantities during the late bronze age.

>random roles given to black males
>helen of troy is still a beautiful white woman

Some day, Black British women need to stand up for their right to be queens. It just isn't fair that Anglos lust after Black men but not them.

How is it cuckold, he never said anything about letting others fuck his wife etc?

thanks for the answer
>Interesting, I've also noted how during the bronze age almost all the Mediterranean islands saw the development of very peculiar and prolific cultures
it's wierd, what was the reason the islands above all were the leaders in culture but then, for the most part, stopped producing as ebullient cultures again? was it a matter of geography, a certain commodity they happened to monopolize? the fact that they were adept seafarers who could amalgamate the best of the med. basin cultures around them?

I was happy until I saw the sub saharans
Rome was good minus the iron workers so maybe just digitally colourise the two leads
Why not film in Anatolia I thought no one lived near Troy

I also found weird how much those islands interacted with eachother creating a sort of trade network between them and begin using the same tools, motifs and objects, for instance Cyprus started using a script heavily influenced by Minoan, rather than using, say, Akkadian like nearby Syrians or Canaanites did, or Hittite/Luwian like Anatolians

Or how Sards started using Cypriot tools and similar pottery

He brought up blacks and their dicks first.

Honestly, I no longer care about the identity of an actor as long as it's a good actor.

I remember people whined about Idris Elba playing in Dark Tower too, but it seems ridiculous. Elba is a great actor.

Name some Chinese actors who Brits have given inappropriate roles or even roles at all

The history channel filmed their Hatfield and McCoy mini series in Romania. I assume it has to do with costs

Who knows but the ancient world was more connected than people like to believe

I don't follow british media

At least Romania has the same climate as Troy or rest of the Meds
Can't say the same for south Africa

I believe that parts of South Africa have a Mediterranean climate.

no they didnt

Get fucked they were basically Anatolian Greeks. Have a look at the map across the Aegean seas, who do you think they were likely to share DNA with? Before Seljuk Turks and Arabs invaded.

This will be a

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"Thought-provoking and modern classic"

"A modern classic"

"Homer would have been proud"

While they were not in any way black we don't know anything about the genetic differences between Ancient Greeks and nearby Anatolians yet.
It's possible that the Greeks had far more Indo-European admixture and thus lighter phenotypes.

You people are so retarded I ask how can you even breathe, if you had a brain to actually check the link you would none of the pic related will be cast, but you would rather be racebaited than to be smart
Please kill yourselves

They are casting a Ghanalese(David Gyasi) as Achilles

go on imdb.

I tought the same, then I looked at Imdb , the Achilles and Patroklus actors-

So is the Illiad

White guys need to stop larping as ancient Greeks and romans

>british people actually have to pay taxes to fund this shit

>its even called the BBC

*makes you think*

If you don't trust IMDB for whatever reason:

deadline.com/2017/03/troy-fall-of-a-city-cast-bella-dayne-louis-hunter-joseph-mawle-frances-oconnor-david-threlfall-bbc-netflix-1202055633/

>BBC One/Netflix co-production Troy: Fall Of A City has set its cast with Louis Hunter, Bella Dayne, David Threlfall, Frances O’Connor, Jonas Armstrong, Joseph Mawle, Tom Weston-Jones, David Gyasi, Johnny Harris and Chloe Pirrie among those strapping on sandals for the epic tale of mortals and gods
>Gyasi (Interstellar) is Achilles

No mention of Patroklus, but as IMDB was correct with Gyasi I don't see any reason to doubt it. OP is correct, and is also correct in pointing out the clear ideological agenda behind the casting.

If fictional characters being played by people from the wrong ethnic group offends you, how do you manage to watch anything on TV?

Gr8 b8 m8

A TV drama starring a black african-american playing Martin Luther King and giving the famous speech wouldn't be so ridiculous as a ginger headed white Finnish actor portraying him.

Look how touchy that would make the black population in America!

>b-but it's just an actor!

Just because it's further back in history doesn't mean it's any less relevant for us to try and have a bit more integrity in representing things.

Yes, the jewish plot within bake off was clear.

Correct me if wrong but didn't Sardinian life-sized sculptures predate the kuroi?

It's good to see that it will be portrayed historically accurately for once rather than having white men playing Ancient Greeks.

Yes, by two centuries or more, that's why I said in Greece

Well, did the text say they WERENT black?

Tbh, I really don't care as long as the actors are talented and no one is daring to claim Trojens were Black historically.
I mean I watch an entire play of Julius Caesar at my University where all the senators except Brutus(guess cause he was married) were played by women. Like even Anthony. I'm not joking. It seems deliberate too. I guess it was part of the writers vision.
White actors have played non white characters before anyway. Now you know how it feels! lol. No, but really besides level of talent, I really don't care. Why does this anger you all so much??? No one really claimed anything. They just want to give more talented actors a chance regardless of race. It is kind of b.s. though since there is even less Asian representation than blacks even when you compare percentage of population, yet no one really couches for them.
Fucking this anyway.

I just don't watch the BBC anymore

Who cares about the casting? The way they will (inevitably) maul the story of the Iliad will be far worse, because it will of course be building up to THE BIG FIGHT between Achilles and Hector, despite everything Homer does to undercut the showdown when it happens and the real conflict being the Achilles vs Agammemnon one.

A new comedy about smoking weed and grabbing the pussies?