has there been any modern battles that the USA lost?
Has there been any modern battles that the USA lost?
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War for the Middle-East
That's a war not a battle you dumbass
>modern battles
can you be more specific on modern?
if it were up to me ill call the russo-japanese war a modern war
Sure, lets say 1980 onwards
then how about this fiasco
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Tactically speaking I can't really think of one, I'd have a hard time calling anything in Afghanistan a "battle" but I guess you could say the Battle of Mogadishu and Operation Gothic Serpent as a whole was a loss.
Then again its difficult to fight a battle when the whole point of the operation was for peacekeeping.
The initial clusterfuck in Fallujah?
In a war, battles are fought. You just lost one big ass battle, nitwit.
You can win every battle and lose the war, just look at vietnam. You can lose very battle and win the war, just look at the entire military history of britain
Tora bora was a win for the US but failed to take the objective.
A huge string of half-wins in Afghanistan.
Nothing huge afaik but there were some rather insignificant defeats in WW2
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The Beirut bombing is probably the biggest US military failure as a single incident. 241 American marines and 59 French paratroopers lost to an ambush by Hezbollah agents equipped with nothing but a large truck bomb.
Battle of Mogadishu and Operation Red Wings are probably the most publicly visible. First Fallujah didn't go too well either.
The battle of the bulge
savage
not really a battle now is it
First fallujah is yet another example of elan not being a replacement for preparation and combined arms
Doesn't seem like a failure of combined arms. More like a failure of intelligence, i.e. ignoring the protests of your generals on the scene and taking a too heavy-handed response to the Blackwater killings. This touches off a powderkeg, insurgents launch widespread attacks (having been waiting for their chance) and are handed a Tet-offensive style PR coup.
They won that one
You're talking about Vigilante Resolve right? I worked with a couple of guys who were in Fallujah for that shit show, its a good thing the Marines got their heads out their asses when they did Phantom Fury.
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Win the battle and capitulate. Let's give a standing ovation for the one and only NAZBOL government.