Within a Judeo-Christian point of view, why did God create (sub-Saharan) Africa and Africans?
It's a place full of disease, war, poverty, crime, misery. The people in Africa suffer tremendously and, when they die, most go to Hell simply because they were never Christian. Not because they refused Christianity at any point, but because they never could have the chance to choose Christianity. They are born in regions where there is religious repression, where Christians are hunted, where missionaries never went, where families force you to follow animism/Islam, etc. In a way, God created these people knowing they'd live a life full of misery and on top of it He makes it in a way they can't even possibly know of Christianity. And then punishes them for being created. Like, what the fuck. Just think about it.
Not exactly what you'd expect from a benevolent God.
Easton Wood
God is not Christian
Colton Jackson
>It's a place full of disease, war, poverty, crime, misery. It was better before whites fucked them up.
Julian Diaz
Thats only one city, the rest of Africa was still a shithole filled with war hunger and disease
Eli Turner
Aaaaand here comes the goalpost movers
Brandon Wood
>It's a place full of disease, war, poverty, crime, misery. this has been the case with many places in history, why single out africa? >The people in Africa suffer tremendously and, when they die, most go to Hell simply because they were never Christian. that is simply untrue, nonbelief due to ignorance of God is a venial sin and is cleansed in purgatory
Noah Torres
>this has been the case with many places in history, why single out africa? That's true and you're right, I made the case of Africa because it's an idea pretty much everyone is familiar with and saves the time of contextualization. >purgatory I am not religious, but this is implying the Roman Catholic interpretation is true, which is kinda dubious because the word purgatory started being thrown around by the Roman Church as a way to sell indulgences, or something along those lines. There are plenty of interpretations that say there is no purgatory, like the Eastern Orthodox. In that interpretation, what happens to the people who suffer their whole lives and are, as you put it, ignorant of God? They go to Hell. Most virtuous pagans are not saved. So why God made things this way? You didn't really answer my question at all.
Elijah Cook
>which is kinda dubious because the word purgatory started being thrown around by the Roman Church as a way to sell indulgences, or something along those lines. that is incorrect. you should read up on your church history. >There are plenty of interpretations that say there is no purgatory, like the Eastern Orthodox. And those interpretations are not correct, so they are not worth addressing.
Hudson Jackson
>"And those interpretations are not correct, so they are not worth addressing." >I won't discuss something, because it's wrong and I don't have to explain why it's wrong, because it's wrong. And you still haven't answered the question.
Jaxson Wright
>I won't discuss something, because it's wrong and I don't have to explain why it's wrong, because it's wrong. What is there to discuss? The word of God disagrees with their interpretation, so they are wrong. It is that simple. >And you still haven't answered the question. There is no question to answer. Sure, it would be truly awful if God did not save the souls of those ignorant of Christianity, but this is not something that happens.
Noah Rivera
>LE EVIL WHITE
Noah Gray
>wtf why do bad things exist FUKIN GOD
shut up bitch
Jason Gomez
Do it again, Bomber Harris!
Benjamin Scott
The problem of evil has plagued philosophers for thousands of years, saying "shut up bitch" is certainly novel but not much of an a response.
Jack Collins
From a judeo-christian point of view its none of your fucking business and you have no right to question God
Brandon Green
That's not even true, some of the greatest theologians and philosophers in Judeo-Christian history have wrestled with the the question. Your response is the response of an internet shitposter that doesn't want their belief system challenged and finds it convenient to say "hurr stop argooing wiv god innit blud".
Ayden Hernandez
>They are born in regions where there is religious repression, where Christians are hunted, where missionaries never went, where families force you to follow animism/Islam, etc.
This part stood out the mist but your op is completely wrong on so many parts. If your post was a tower people would be running from it because it would collapse at any moment with the slightest winds of scrutiny.
Charles Clark
But nowadays most subsaharan africans are baptized. ethiopia and nubia were one of the first catholic states in the world and prior to christ parts of Ethiopia followed the old testament religion. however those who die in ignorance and unbaptized went to hell but suffer less punishment than a condemned baptized person who knew the faith but died in a state of sin. purgatory is for the baptized who died in a state of holiness but did not make up for sins he/she made against God through penance or prayer and thus have to be cleansed to be admitted into heaven.
Ayden Brown
First Africa is a land full of resources and food Second The people of the continent squander it, the reason people are miserable there is because of other men's actions, not gods. God put us all on this ether through inteligent evolution or creation. And he offered salvation to men through jesus christ, those that say no and abuse others face the consequences that they put on themselfs. In other words, the warlords may be having fun now, but after they die.. heheheh
Camden Anderson
>ethiopia and nubia were one of the first catholic states in the world
They weren't catholic
Nathan Carter
Wrong meaning brainlet
Zachary Ramirez
I forget the term but people that are never told the Word don't go to hell for it. All those sub Saharan Africans aren't on God, likewise; the cycle of poverty and disease there is fueled by humans continuing to have sex for pleasure and with disregard to the wellbeing of their children.
Kevin Phillips
>In other words, the warlords may be having fun now, but after they die.. heheheh
That all banks on the afterlife even being a thing for them to be" punished".
Camden Cox
>the cycle of poverty and disease there is fueled by humans continuing to have sex for pleasure and with disregard to the wellbeing of their children.
That's not what causes the cycle of poverty.
Joseph Reed
>Judeo-Christian No such thing.
Jose Martin
I just find it so annoying that people who've never read more than a Wikipedia article talk about Africa and the people of the continent or their history.
It's so annoying, most you have never stepped foot there and save for some Saffers on the board most have no concept of it's history The concept of Cush in the Bible was the outerlimits of the known world. It's people were given roles signifying their importance in the Bible.
Tzipporah-Wife of Moses who repelled an angel sent by g-d to kill him
The Ethiopian Eunuch amongst the first to convert
Ebed-Melech the Ethiopian Eunuch who saved Prophet Jeremiah from the well
Queen Candace of great wealth and power
Zerah the Cushite a king whose lands were on both sides of the Red Sea that sought to gain power in Judah
All the references to blacks in the Bible refer to them as wealthy, utilizing resources of their lands or being of exceptional intellect and talent to be given privileged roles.
Ferenji are stupid and can't read books.
Justin Johnson
Where was this?
Leo Miller
Read the words you fool, Angola
Brayden Edwards
What year was this?
Daniel Evans
If that's true don't missions send more people to hell? You have a bunch of people who don't know about Christianity and when Christians come to tell them about it, there will be people who reject and go to hell. Isn't that just bringing cosmic suffering on people who otherwise would have been fine?
Jack Bell
The conventional answer is that Adam's sin is the reason for all suffering in the world, because being tricked into eating an apple totally causes famines and plagues.
Jeremiah King
It's clearly 17th century, if you want to know the date look it up. I didn't even post this and it's clearly later 1600's.
Lurk more
Zachary Gutierrez
Thank you. Do you have any good sources on african history?
Ryder Myers
lel
never change his
Zachary Price
What about Ethiopia? >Christian before most of Europe >sub-saharan Africa.
Robert Wilson
> Within a Judeo-Christian point of view No idea but from a dharmic point of view Africa might be the Naraka or the abode of the Pretas
Michael Morales
Overpopulation does Everybody has to know the word for final judgement to occur
Tyler Allen
Not overpopulation but inefficiency. Regardless of the population if those inefficiencies and underutilisation are still there it will still be poor