Were there any negative repercussions to the Arab conquests...

Were there any negative repercussions to the Arab conquests? My professor told me it was overall great for the people who already lived there.

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>its great to become second class citizens

I think the people that got the most immediate benefits were the people under Roman rule. At the time taxes were high and religious persecution was common (muh nature of Christ and other ecclesiastical tomfoolery). The Egyptian and Syrians both had different ideas of how to be Christians compared to the Romans. When the Arabs arrived they were very "worship how you want as long as you pay this lower tax than you were paying under Roman rule." However over time the existing Roman and Persian customs and laws were replaced and became more in line with Arab/muslim ones because more people were converting to Islam (less taxes). Once the various religious groups started becoming minorities they were treated much less kindly and the rights for women that were initially present because of Persian and Roman customs were ARAB'D.

Not true whatsoever. No one was second class citizens. Christians and Jews have lived peacefully under Islam for over a thousand years. They were protected citizens. They never offered these privileges in return to Muslims. In fact, most were joyous when the Caliphate expanded into their territory. Compare that to how they have treated Muslims. Christians repaid us for what we did for them with the Crusades, Jews repaid us for what we've done for them by stealing Arab land and creating Israel. It's bullshit.

i know that armenians or persians weren't happy to be conquered. armenians and assyrians had much more freedom under sassanid rule. initially the coptic and syriac monophysites were ok with the arab conquest until they were marginalized and were shoah'd in later centuries. jews enjoyed islamic rule.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre

that's what they get for helping the moors conquer Iberia doe

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi

However, Christians living under Islamic rule have suffered certain legal disadvantages and at times persecution. In the Ottoman Empire, in accordance with the dhimmi system implemented in Muslim countries, they, like all other Christians and also Jews, were accorded certain freedoms. The dhimmi system in the Ottoman Empire was largely based upon the Pact of Umar. The client status established the rights of the non-Muslims to property, livelihood and freedom of worship but they were in essence treated as second-class citizens in the empire and referred to in Turkish as gavours, a pejorative word meaning "infidel" or "unbeliever". The clause of the Pact of Umar which prohibited non-Muslims from building new places of worship was historically imposed on some communities of the Ottoman Empire and ignored in other cases, at discretion of the local authorities. Although there were no laws mandating religious ghettos, this led to non-Muslim communities being clustered around existing houses of worship.

In addition to other legal limitations, Christians were not considered equals to Muslims and several prohibitions were placed on them. Their testimony against Muslims by Christians and Jews was inadmissible in courts of law wherein a Muslim could be punished; this meant that their testimony could only be considered in commercial cases. They were forbidden to carry weapons or ride atop horses and camels. Their houses could not overlook those of Muslims; and their religious practices were severely circumscribed (e.g., the ringing of church bells was strictly forbidden).

many conquered people were enslaved

>jews enjoyed islamic rule.

Uh...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Yemen
>"on account of our sins G-d has cast us into the midst of this people, the nation of Ishmael, who persecute us severely, and who devise ways to harm us and to debase us.... No nation has ever done more harm to Israel. None has matched it in debasing and humiliating us. None has been able to reduce us as they have.... We have borne their imposed degradation, their lies, their absurdities, which are beyond human power to bear.... We have done as our sages of blessed memory have instructed us, bearing the lies and absurdities of Ishmael.... In spite of all this, we are not spared from the ferocity of their wickedness and their outbursts at any time. On the contrary, the more we suffer and choose to conciliate them, the more they choose to act belligerently toward us." - Rambam

Poor Middle Eastern Jews used to send letters to rich European Jewish money lenders describing the torment Arabs put them through for them to send help and rescue them or send money. Lots of people say it was worse in Europe but overall it was much better.

it depends who was in charge of the respective areas at the time really. some caliphs/emirs/governors were more lax while others very harsh

Educated Iranian self-identity is largely based around still being pissed off about it.

holy horseshit

so is that little patch in the caucasus literally impossible to cross?
every time I see a map concerning islam, it never seems to reach there (modern armenia I guess?)

Is that why Christian Armenians were marched through the desert to their deaths by Muslim Ottomans?

That wasnt the result of Islam but of ultra-nationalistic Young Turks. This secular nationalism originated in Europe btw

I don't care where it originated, or if it was because of nationalism, or whatever other bullshit excuse you have to make. You're no better than people who think the crusades were self defense.

Thanks for ruining the thread fucking autist.

It is pretty difficult to cross, there also wasn't really anything of value on the other side, so when most empires throughout history have reached it they just kind shrugged their shoulders and went in a different direction.

>the crusades were not self-defense

Wrong, there were gains to be had for sure, but the people who organized the crusades were very much on the defensive.

>the Armenian genocide was about religion

Also wrong, it was the Turks looking for an easy scapegoat and wanting to get rid of a group of people who they considered to be an annoyance.

The Arab conquests were pretty much like every Imperial expansion in human history before the modern era. Different people benefitted or suffered much the same as when various Persian/Greek/Macedonian/Roman etc. empires conquered them. People of all stripes who were in the path of the invading armies obviously suffered the standard atrocities of rape, murder and pillaging.On the other hand rural lower class folk who were not in those armies paths often saw no real change in their lives other than the coins had a new portrait on them. For the urban population the Conquests often had positive effects as more lands being united under a single authority (whatever that may be) increased trade and the economy, while the lowering of state barriers allowed a flourishing of science and technology. If you were part of the upper class though you were usually screwed, as the new powers wanted your spots for themselves, there can be only one king after all. For the middle classes it could on the other hand be a great boon, as the new rulers have a bunch of new administrative jobs that need doing and not enough of themselves to do it. Thus in the early days of this and many other empires you see a lot of middle class people advancing through service to the new regime.

and raped and slaughtered as well.

>Samaritans were pushed to extinction because Arab Muslims had never heard of "Samaritans" and didn't consider them people of the book. Muslim rule is considered by far the most tragic part of Samaritan history.
>Egypt's cultural heritage was destroyed; they all speak Arabic now
>Indigenous Jewish holy sites were replaced with Mosques
>Indigenous Christian holy sites were replaced with Mosques
>There will never be an Aramaic speaking nation in the heart of the Middle East
>All native identities were replaced with "Arab identity"
>Christianity in North Africa was annihilated

>Is that why Christian Armenians were marched through the desert to their deaths by Muslim Ottomans?

THOSE WERE NOT MUSLIMS — LOOK UP THE DONMEH. THE YOUNG TURKS WERE NOT TURKS, THEY WERE JEWISH. PIC RELATED IS A JEW HOLDING BREAD ABOVE STARVING ARMENIAN CHILDREN. PLEASE DON'T CONFLATE ZIONIST PSY-OPS SUCH AS THE "ISRAELI SECRET INTELLIGENCE SERVICES" OR CRYPTO-JEW SAUDI ROYALS WITH TRUE ISLAM.

>what is jizya