Learn about the Holocaust/Weimar Republic in school

Why limit the complaints to High School then? Shouldn't you have learned this stuff before High School?

The Spartacist Uprising was crushed pretty quickly. It's not surprising that it doesn't get mentioned very much.

>Be American
>8 years of history classes from K-12
>Didn't learn anything at all

Why don't we have schools in the US?

We had an entire 4 months in 8th grade that was supposed to be dedicated to the events around WW2. February for the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler, March for the lead-up to the war, April for the war and it's end, May for the aftermath.

All we talked about for four months was the Holocaust. People got sick of it, and a few started downplaying the significance of the Holocaust after about 3 months of it. If this happens all across the country, it is no wonder why do many people don't care and turn toward skepticism. It's like the "just say no" campaign, it has a rebel effect.

We used to, they've just been redone into daycare centers for children 6-18 years old. Some teachers forget where they are and actually try to teach like old times, but they are quickly stamped out.

Did you learn about the German revolution? If not, it seems obvious why you didn't learn about the Spartacist uprising as well.

"The Vanquished" by Robert Gerwarth explores this exact subject in depth, as does "The Downfall of Money" by Frederick Taylor. These books, along with "Wages of Destruction" are books that anybody talking about Nazi Germany should have to read.

I can not imagine being so little going on in my life that I base my political and epistemological beliefs on the fact that I am mad that I was bored one time in 8th grade.

Exactly this. I learned loads of shit in High School, because I brought my own books with me.

Looks like you paid attention

Does Luxemburg have any historical relevance besides being a martyr for Marxists. I don't think so.

>no mention of the Spartacist Uprising
Shitty school.
>nor Rosa Luxemburg
That's okay because she actually wasn't that important.
>nor Roterfront Kampfbund
Again, they were mostly irrelevant.
>literally just "Nazis were mean and bullied their way to power ):
That's pretty much true.

What's the problem?

His problem is that the school he went to didn't reinforce his naive worldview, therefore the school must be shit and controlled by (((them)))

She was very important for early 20th century communist movement.

How much did they teach you about Marx and Engels in school?

Not learning about the political movements and influences present at the time gives a skewed vision of history.
Ffs, are they reactionaries or not? If so, what are they reacting to?
You want to attack a perceived viewpoint of mine, and you're happy to butcher history to do so.

>It's another thinly veiled wehraboo thread

Mostly to Weimar democracy. KPD was never that strong.

>no mention of the Spartacist Uprising
It was a small part of larget uprising and honestly quite irrelevant.

>nor Rosa Luxemburg
Irrelevant woman, if something Liebknecht should be mentioned.

>nor Roterfront Kampfbund
Left-wing hooligans? Who cares? Just mention street-fighting between leftists and right-wingers.

>literally just "Nazis were mean and bullied their way to power
Which is quite correct.

All of this belongs to specialized courses, not common education.

wehraboo =/= outright nazi sympathizer, which the OP is.

school = jew sided story's.
reason jew gold economy.
this is a prison planet run by jews for yhwh , why teach you the truth.
why would they.

sucks to be you dude, my unit was like a day lol

>tfw there are both Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht streets in the city I was born in
>tfw almost no one younger than 50 knows who they were

There is no time for this in high school. I doubt there was something in your class about history of SPD, DNVP, Zentrum, Harzburg Front, secret meeting between Hitler and German industrialists, Potempa murder, Altona riots, von Papen and his role in all of this and so on.

>I'm mad that my school didn't teach me the entire history of every country on Earth, in a couple of hours a week, for a handful of years.

>>tfw there are both Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht streets in the city I was born in
Disgusting.

At my school, we spent what felt like FOREVER on WW1 and then spent like 1 day on WW2, focusing entirely on the Pacific theatre of the war.

Do you actually expect a high school history class to go that in-depth? Nothing the taught you was wrong. Just because you have an autistic obsession with a certain point in history doesn't mean the entire class/school needs to be taught it

Next you're gonna tell me they didn't mention Wolfgang Kapp either.

>Before World War II, Rosa-Luxemburg-Straße was not a separate street, but a continuation of Kaiser-Wilhelm-Straße, the rest of which is now called Karl-Liebknecht-Straße. During the years of the German Democratic Republic it was named for Rosa Luxemburg, a leading Marxist theoretician and one of the leaders of the Spartacist League, who was killed following the unsuccessful Communist Spartacist uprising in Berlin in 1919. It is one of the few streets in East Berlin named for a prominent Communist that has retained its name following the reunification of Germany in 1990.

Better than having streets named after Confederate generals tho.

>learn about the Armistice/Novemberrevolution on /pol/
>no mention of the sailor's revolt
>nor the OHL and Kaiser installing the SDP to take the fall for peace negotiations, delaying the peace process
>nor the absolute state of the home front and military morale in 1918
>literally just "Jews were mean and bullied their way to defeat ):"
>Really makes you think

SPD*

Absolutely not

I think learning about the Kapp Putsch in school would've be great, though its not really as big. First of all I don't think anyone even died in it, and it was resolved by nonviolent means after a few days.Though learning about it would give a more accurate representation of how heroes of the German military was treated after the war and give a better representation of the time. I think we can also agree though that a full on communist revolution deserves some discussion instead of none at all, and might be a little bit more important.

How is it a "myth" if its at least partially true since immediatly following the war there was a communist revolution led entirely by jews?

>communist revolution led entirely by jews?
...?

>Germany lost the war because of an event that occurred after the war was already over

Because it wasn't at all the reason Germany lost the first world war

Karl Liebknecht wasn't a Jew, though

Unlike the Spartacists, the Kapp putsch actually had a good chance to succeed.
>how heroes of the German military was treated
They took over Berlin and forced the government to flee. Lüttwitz was pardoned after like three years he spent in exile. I'd call that an alright deal.

>Why isn't this small uprising where mainly insurgents died brought up to rationalize the Holocaust!

gee I wonder why

Furthermore, the entire Spartacist rebellion was a pretty minor event in the grand scheme of things. The mutiny within the High Seas Fleet was much more significant as it essentially removed Germany's last desperate hope for securing a favorable armistice.

>I think we can also agree though that a full on communist revolution deserves some discussion

No more so than the Conspiracy of Catiline or the original Spartacus slave rebellion against Rome that the Spartacists took their name from. In an ideal world, the general public would be educated enough to have at least conversational knowledge of all these events, but that's just not the world we live in.

>hurr my traitors are more noble than yours

Rosa didn't actively cause the death of tens of thousands of American lives.

Fuck Stonewall, fuck Lee, fuck the rest, they all should have hanged for treason

Ah but you see, a Jew centuries before the Nazis came to power said some shit about distributing wealth and some other shit about removing your shackles and also Stalin was a Jew and Lenin too and they killed bajillions so therefore the Holocaust is justified but it actually never happened hehe

Do you even Bolshevik?

>brought up to rationalize the Holocaust!
>implying I said this
Freudian slip?

...?

>learn about spartaist uprising, rosa, and roterfront kamptbund from /pol/
>no mention that spartacist was launched by non-jewish hotheads like liebknecht
>nor that most of the "jewish" leaders of the KPD were AGAINST violent revolution and Rosa in particular wanted to participate in elections for german parliament but got outvoted for the hotheads and so was forced to go along.
>nor that the Roterfront was set up by the non-jewish head of the communist party Ernst Thalmann, who was the undisputed leader of the party of that time.
>literally just "Jews were evil and tried to bully their way to power ):"
>really makes you think

>centuries before
Hitler joined the DAP same year as the Uprising
What do you have to gain by pretending there was no socialist uprising to backlash against? Isn't that what makes them Reactionaries?

>this one guy out of all the others
Not even an anti-Semite, but come on

Didn't even mention the Jews in the OP, why do you bring them up

>This one guy
>This one most important guy

The Weimer Republic wasn't socialist, or even particularly left-wing. The fact that the Spartacist rebellion was crushed so quickly, and so uncompromisingly, is proof of that.

Wasn't he a co-founder alongside Rosa?

>Spartacist Uprising
I learned about this

That's not my point.
My point was that there was a number of ideologies fighting, and to omit entities from the history books is manipulative and dishonest.
Of courses, history is a /pol/ conspiracy though.

Yup, however Rosa was not a guy.

Fuck, you got me

You forgot the hundred days offensive, friend.

The Spartacist uprising was put down by a socialist government you absolute fuckwit, it was a non-event

My point wasn't so much that they were why Germany lost the war, but there was clearly something of a betrayal at the homefront.
basically what said.

>The Weimer Republic wasn't socialist
The majority party was the fucking SPD

...

The war had been going on for nearly 5 years, the country was under constant blockade from the British, the Germany Navy was fighting open mutiny, the Schlieffen Plan had ended in disaster, and America's entry into the war meant that the other side was starting the receive fresh reinforcements from across the Atlantic. There was no hope for Germany winning the war at this point. The Spartacist Uprising changed nothing compared to all of that. In fact, Germany had already formally accepted armistice before the uprising even happened!

>but there was clearly something of a betrayal at the homefront.
Then they should have strung up renowned communistic Jew Ludendorf for declaring they couldn't win to the Kaiser

>it's a /pol/tard cries that he wasn't taught a relatively irrelevant event that he only knows of because he read some retarded misleading infographs that tried to use it to brainwash people into da joo conspiracy theory episode

>nor Roterfront Kampfbund

Care to give a quick rundown?

It's fucking absurd how almost 100 years later after Ludendorf straight up admits to the general staff that the war was lost with the failure of the 100 days offensive, Nazis claim that it was the jewish homefront's fault Germany lost.

Because it was easier on an emotional level to blame a tiny, nearly powerless minority group than to just accept that the country's leadership had made a huge gamble that backfired.

>irrelevant
>the thing that Reactionaries are reacting to is irrelevant

Communist paramilitary that the SA fought

Wait, I'm german and we did learn about the socialist movement in Germany after WW1

Did you not read my post? I'm not arguing whether or not it impacted the result of the war i'm just saying there was clearly betrayal at the homefront.
What? Are you retarded, first of all the Kaiser had no power at that point, and second of all its ridiculous to compare the betrayal of a literal communist revolt with one of the leading generals correctly speculating about the result of the war.

>the thing that Reactionaries are reacting to is irrelevant
You are playing with words, user and very clumsily on top of that. Hitler was not even a reactionary, he literally used the term to insult the old guard of German leadership.

>the thing that Reactionaries are reacting to is irrelevant
That's a neonazi rationalization of the past. It's pretty clear from hitler's writings that he became an antisemite by reading antisemitic propaganda and not due to some specific event. In fact, I don't think hitler ever said anything about the spartacist uprising. And he associated da evil joos mainly with the people the spartacists were fighting (the social democrats).
>And so I began to gather information about the authors of this teaching, with a view to studying the principles of the movement. The fact that I attained my object sooner than I could have anticipated was due to the deeper insight into the Jewish question which I then gained, my knowledge of this question being hitherto rather superficial. This newly acquired knowledge alone enabled me to make a practical comparison between the real content and the theoretical pretentiousness of the teaching laid down by the apostolic founders of Social Democracy; because I now understood the language of the Jew. I realized that the Jew uses language for the purpose of dissimulating his thought or at least veiling it, so that his real aim cannot be discovered by what he says but rather by reading between the lines. This knowledge was the occasion of the greatest inner revolution that I had yet experienced. From being a soft-hearted cosmopolitan I became an out-and-out anti-Semite.
God knows where people like deduce that hitler was influenced by it (does he even know what he's talking about? he seems to not know the difference between the spartacists and the socialists).

>all this shilling for omitting history and jumping to /pol/-conspiracy and Holocaust denier conclusions
/leftypol/ colonization is real, as is /pol/

You make it seem like I am a neo-nazi trying to praise Hitler or something.
The notion that the Nazis weren't anti-communists or that an attempted revolution was not impactful in the public's eye is absurd.

But let's get back to the crux if it all here, why are you okay with revisionist history?

To equate Hitler as the entirety of the German far-right during the 1920s is blatantly disingenuous. No shit reactionaries and national socialists held differing beliefs, but there was was tons of cross over, and without them Hitler wouldn't have come to power.

>accepting one of the most historically well documented and researched time periods/events in history over the narrative pushed by a bunch of stormie neck beards as justification for atrocities they "totally" didn't commit but if it DID happen, it was justified.
>this is obviously just lefty pol

Why don't people realize that every Normie hates fucking Nazis, not just Commies.

Also I'm tired of stormies and Thier revision threads. this is now a Dresden pill thread

>the Kaiser had no power at that point
Do you know anything about the German Empires constitution? You literally can't negotiate an armistice without his approval

Not everyone at play was an actual Nazi, their rise to power was much about convincing the public and other right wing groups to join them. Stalhelm Front der Kampfbund or whatever were assimilated into the SA, and that shows how things went as the cards were laid down.

>constant communist uprisings
>literally try to kick off a civil war in Silesia
>constant strikes and terrorism ruin any hope of a quick German recovery
>Freikorps and army are finally brought in to curbstomp them
>'c-commies dindu nuffin t-they was good boys goin to fix Germany!'
>Germany is actually going alright until the great depression
>'m-muh /pol/ boogieman!'
Every Marxist deserves death.

The constitution meant fuck all during the war. Hindenburg and Ludendorff ran the whole show in Germany the last 2 years of the war.

If you are OP, then yes, I do believe you are a neonazi shitposting Veeky Forums. I know how stormfag propaganda works, instead of outright claiming a conspiracy you make retarded rhetorical questions or you hint at it through rationalizations.

>The notion that the Nazis weren't anti-communists
Which you just made up.

>or that an attempted revolution was not impactful in the public's eye
How impactful? Based on what? Why did hitler never mention it if it led him to hate jews and/or communists? Why did he constantly sperg against social democrats instead?

>But let's get back to the crux if it all here, why are you okay with revisionist history?
Because we aren't discussing revisionist history. When you study a subject, the depth of details you get to are proportional to the time you spend on it. If you study general history in high school you aren't going to read about minor events like a minor short lived sub-revolution that happened in the context of another revolution and was rapidly crushed. If you specifically study the weimar republic, you will. You are only butthurt about this because you are a /pol/tard and read conspiranoid infographs.

>just accept the narrative bro
>just be ok with selective history bro

>justification for atrocities
Never said this, but then again, such an argument is your only hope for looking like you're more than a revisionist.

>'c-commies dindu nuffin t-they was good boys goin to fix Germany!'
You seem to be quoting imaginary people.

This.
communist scum deserve worse.

>/pol/ complains
As do you.

>Therefore, the O.H.L. has demanded from His Majesty and from the Chancellor that they immediately ask President Wilson of America to mediate an armistice with the goal of bringing about a peace on the basis of his Fourteen Points.
So why'd they go and tell him they needed his approval for the armistice fuckwit?

But that wasn't me.