>The Canaanites are famous as the bad guys of the Book of Joshua in the Tanakh, or the Hebrew Bible. First, God orders the Hebrews to destroy the Canaanites along with several other groups, and later we hear that the Canaanites have actually been wiped out. Among archaeologists, however, the Canaanites are a cultural group whose rise and fall has remained a mystery. Now, a group of archaeologists and geneticists has discovered strong evidence that the Canaanites were not wiped out. They are, in fact, the ancestors of modern Lebanese people.
>Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute geneticist Marc Haber and his colleagues decided to find out who the Canaanites were by sequencing ancient DNA from five persons whose bodies were found buried in the Canaanite seaside town of Sidon. An ongoing archaeological dig at the site had uncovered the burials of three women and two men who lived roughly 3,700 years ago in the bustling area. After sequencing DNA from all five people, the researchers compared the results with the genomes of 99 modern-day Lebanese people.
>"Over 90 percent of the genetic ancestry of present-day Lebanese was derived from the Canaanites," said Chris Tyler-Smith, who was on the research team. "In light of the enormously complex history of this region in the last few millennia, it was quite surprising."
>Clearly, the Canaanites did not die out, though they came to be known by other names. They continued living in the exact same places they did 4,000 years ago during the Bronze Age.
>Haber and colleagues' genetic analysis also revealed the origins of the Canaanites, whose ancestry was so mysterious that even the ancient Greeks wondered about it. Analysis showed that the forbears of the five Bronze Age Canaanites in the study are the result of mixture between local Neolithic farmers and hunter-gatherers who hailed from the region today called Iran.
>The Iranian group probably arrived in Sidon with the ascendency of the Akkadian Empire, which the researchers note "controlled the region from Iran to the Levant between 4,400 and 4,200 years ago." A massive drought around 4,200 years ago led to the empire's collapse and also sent refugees fleeing from the parched north of Mesopotamia to the south. There's evidence that southern cities and villages in the area became overcrowded with the new migrants. Eventually, however, the two populations intermingled and produced a thriving, influential culture. The people of this culture called themselves Canaanites.
>Modern-day Lebanese underwent another genetic transformation in the past one to three thousand years, as Steppe peoples migrated to the area from the east and mixed with the local population. As a result, people in Lebanon today are mostly Canaanite, with a touch of Eurasian ancestry. This change came about in the wake of another collapsing empire.
>First, God orders the Hebrews to destroy the Canaanites along with several other groups
These Hebrews keep breaking promises it seems, God had to come down from his realm and create order because the "chosens" couldn't keep to their promises.
Zachary Lee
Kinda ironic how psuedo canaanites are basically at war with actual genetic canaanites over their psuedo canaanite religion
Jace Taylor
The Canaanites were not all killed it is attested in the Bible, but the majority was killed
And YHWH does not care about Lebanon, only Israel matters to him
Michael Carter
>Canaanites are J1 and J2
HOLY SHIT
It mean that most Arabs aren't Semites but Hamites
It also explain why Samaritans Levites are all E-M78, and why E1b1b is closely associated with the spread of Afro-Asiatic languages and not J1
Hebrews were literally E1b1b
Justin Hernandez
I've never heard anyone say the Canaanites went extinct. Only specific ethnicities like the Amalekites. Regardless of what the Old Testament says, there were the Punics and many non Judaean people near Israel like the Nabataeans and speakers of a pagan Palestinian Aramaic which evolved into Christian Palestinian Aramaic.
Jaxson Reyes
All Afro-Asiatics peoples have a common presence of E1b1b. The pre-Afro Asiatic inhabitants of the Near East who were related to the Sumerians are the ones who were probably J and they probably originated North in the Caucasus. According to the Hebrews' reckoning in the OT Canaanites are descendants of Ham who is the father of all the African nations known to the ancient Hebrews.
Matthew Howard
So the negros got BTFO?
Nolan Howard
No, because the bible isn't a reliable accurate historical source
Landon Martinez
Nah it was the ancient Mesapotamians who got raped by the Akkadians and were sandwiched in between by the Iranian spread. Akkadians were probably and ISIS tier proxy for the Egyptians.
Liam Jones
Except that Canaanites are Hamites in the Bible and turn out that they are J1 and J2, while Hebrews are said to Semites and are most likely E-M78 (perhaps E-M123 too) thus appareanted to North Africans which would make them Semites
It doesn't make sense
Jayden Gomez
>which would make them Semites which would make them Hamites*
You can take haplogroups as racial indicators or even cultural ones, it only explains migrations of mostly men than vanquished and mingled with the defeated woman.
Ayden Brooks
ITS GOD SAY IT YOU JEW GOD G O D GOD YAHWAH ALLAH
you disgust me i can suck baby dick but cant say god
Gabriel Collins
yeah so there were like 12 different tribes of people that comprised Israel
Brandon James
elaborate ?
Jack Williams
Here are my results mates.
Lebanese by Ethnicity. Canadian By Nationality. Religion: The Unitarians [AKA Druze]
>the jews know us.
Luis Cruz
...
Isaiah Clark
Yes i can
The Bible told us that Hebrews are all the sons of one man*, and Samaritan(who are well know for keeping their racial purity unlike Jews) Levites are all E-M78, then there is the fact that Semitic languages were spread by E1b1b tribesmen
Then there is the fact that the Sabeans(Yemenites) were said to be Hamites, and it is there that there is the most J1 * Shem =======> Eber =====> Abraham ======> Jacob/Israel
Jackson Bailey
Lebanese are honorary Aryans.
Joseph Wilson
WE WUZ CANAAN N SHIT
Nicholas Gutierrez
>takes bible at face value
Jose Ross
Weren't israelites themselves originally canaanites who separated contrary to the biblical narrative?
Liam Ross
I don't think that's one hundred percent proven but a lot of scholars think that and there is quite a bit or archaeological evidence supporting it.
Isaac Davis
Interesting
Blake Gray
They were essentially a Canaanite group with a Yahweh cult who then dominated after the Babylonian exile and Ezra's formation of their official scripture.
Joseph Mitchell
For some autistic reason I find this proto Yahweh religion creepy as fug
Tyler Torres
>using the word creepy Stop talking like a female. Yahweh was just a god in a polytheistic pantheon and his worship morphed into henotheism and eventually monotheism.
Cooper Gray
Yahweh was just another god in the canaanites pantheon. So they were pretty much the same as other canaanites. This is explained in the Tanakh (Old testament), although they make the other canaanite gods sound evil, like Ba'al.
Angel Lewis
Ba'al wasn't a single god, it's just a title meaning lord/master. There were shitloads of ba'als, even Yahweh was called ba'al at one point.
Joshua Cox
I know, he even had a consort, like the other old gods.
Josiah Taylor
>Scholars previously associated thetheonymwithsolar cultsand with a variety of unrelatedpatron deities, but inscriptions have shown that the name Baʿal was particularly associated with thestormandfertility godHadadand his local manifestations
Jaxson Davis
>phonecuck Leave.
Kevin Campbell
Kill yourself.
Matthew Nelson
If you're gonna be a brainlet wikipedia scholar you should at least read the entire article, retard.
Carson Foster
Praise hezbolah, warriors against international kikery.
One hezbolah warrior > 1000 /pol/ NEETs.
Charles Ortiz
Hizballah is pretty /pol/
Leo Gutierrez
>Caring about the opinion of fags Not everybody sits at their computer all day.
Sorry, was just grabbing a quick article reference because I don't want to waste time proving a pretty entry level fact in semetic religious studies.
El also means god, but refers to a specific deity as well.
Melqart, from Melek-qart just means king of the city, but was the name of a Tyrian dirty
Ba'al means Lord, but referred specifically to Ba'al Haddad.
>Most modern scholarship asserts that this Baʿal—usually distinguished as "The Lord" (הבעל,Ha Baʿal)—was identical with the stormand fertility god Hadad
Yes quoting Wikipedia again, but I shouldn't have to go beyond that when it proves the statement at hand. I don't want to waste time going through my Ugaritic, Canaanite religion books just to prove something when the other person arguing has provided no sources for their arguments, and really your only argument was
>Brainlet
Oliver Peterson
There was no wholesale destruction of the Canaanites in the bible. The language used in the test is exaggerated, nonliteral "warfare rhetoric." This kind of language is akin to saying your favorite sports team "destroyed" or "Massacred its opponents. Granted, there would still have been civilian casualties when Israel fought the Canaanites, just as there are civilian casualties in modern wars, but those noncombatants would not have been Israel's main targets, nor was it the case that Israel "wiped out" these peoples.
In fact, many details in Scripture assume the total destruction of Israel's enemies did not take place. For example, Joshua 11:22 says, "There was none of Anakim left in the land of the sons of Israel," even though four chapters later Caleb is described as still driving Anakim out of the land (Josh 15:13-14). The book of Judges records Israel's conquest of Canaan, but it differs significantly from the account we find in the book of Joshua. Instead of recounting the utter destruction of the Canaanites, Judges only records the Israelites destroying Canaanite idols (Judg. 6:25-27)--not the people as a whole. Judges 1:28 even says, "When Israel grew strong, they put the Canaanites to forced labor, but did not utterly drive them out."
Other relevant passages in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy speak of "driving out" or causing the land to "vomit out" the Canaanites. They don't speak of the Canaanites total destruction or even their complete displacement.
Ryan Rodriguez
Bible says they were not all wiped out. Shame, really. Had Joshua done as ordered, there would be no ISIS today.
Joshua Gray
Prove it.
Michael Gutierrez
Why doesn't it make sense?
Canaan is literally Ham's son.
Xavier Roberts
Stop being an idiot.
Christian Morales
Bullshit.
Gabriel Myers
These "checkmate Christian" type stories are so cringe because the people who write them or buy into them are completely ignorant of scripture. They're just want to believe it's true. It happens every time some "lost" gospel is found that will totally prove Mary wasn't a virgin.
Joshua Ross
So, once again, science proves that the bible is correct, as the Canaanites came from Canaan, Ham's son.
Michael Thomas
The bible proves Mary was not the eternal virgin that Catholics purport her to be.
The bible.
Logan Gutierrez
Nonsense. It's hypostatic union that proves that Mary isn't a virgin
Luke Evans
That word.....it does not mean what you think it means.
Jayden Watson
Well this place certainly hasn't changed since the last time I've been here. It's every bit as retarded.
Connor Johnson
Come back in 10 years then.
Parker Foster
...
Zachary Howard
It's biologically impossible to have children and be a virgin. Even if she was impregnated by some miracle, how the fuck can you give birth while keeping your hymen intact?
Luis Sanders
So a 11 year old girl riding a horse who breaks her hymen is no longer a virgin.
Logan Nelson
Yes it does. Butt sex doesn't count for the losing of virginity; Jesus was born of sperm leakage out of Mary's ass.
Goes for you too.
Brody Lee
Did you know that a hymen could break despite a woman never having sex? A virgin is somebody hasn't sex, not somebody with a hymen. Otherwise men would be born as nonvirgins because they never had a hymen to begin with.
Liam Moore
Correct, she physically isn't. Even in the biblical context, losing virginity meant breaking the hymen, hence all the autistic proofs with stained sheets.
Samuel Foster
Oh, you're an Orthodox cultist. Got it.
Jace Roberts
You do know there's an age limit to post here, yes?
Isaiah Wood
I sincerely hope you're like 13 years old. That would excuse this sort of ignorance.
Jayden Thompson
What are you replying to me for?
Thomas Russell
either she had an unbreakable yet flexible hymen or she had an hole in her anal canal that linked to her womb
Cooper Bailey
Read Deuteronomy 22:17. A test for virginity was to provide the cloth after first sex, if it was blood stained (hymen broke during sex), she married as a virgin and thus pure.
>men would be born as nonvirgins because they never had a hymen to begin with This is quite the most idiotic post I've ever read on here and that's saying something. You do realize that the word "virgin" isn't unisex in Hebrew or pretty much any language in the world besides English?
Luke Rogers
Yes, the is a good way to indicate that women is no longer a virgin. This does not mean that having a hymen is a necessary condition for somebody to be a virgin. A virgin is defined as somebody who has never had sex. A woman can have a hymen and not have sex and be considered a virgin, and she could also not have a hymen and never had sex and still be a virgin.
If you define virgin to mean "a possessor of a hymen" them I'm absolutely correct in saying that men could never be considered a virgin.
Julian Roberts
Not the guy you're responding to, but you realize that Deuteronomy 22:17 does not in fact say that?
הַשִּׂמְלָה The dress. It's an article of clothing, not the bedsheet. Not to mention the proof of virginity is not the same thing as virginity itself. That's like saying that a credit card statement IS your monthly purchase of whatever.
Jackson Moore
and why would a virgin woman not have a hymen? i don't think the excuse of having stuck a dildo in your hole would go over well in pre-modern times
Luke Miller
They can break from riding a horse or falling on your ass too hard. It's not an uncommon thing for them to break prematurely even in modern times.
Carter Bennett
>This does not mean that having a hymen is a necessary condition for somebody to be a virgin. In Biblical context it absolutely does. You're anachronistically forcing modern western concepts of virginity on 1st century Middle Easterners. Back then if you didn't have hymen, you were not a virgin. >If you define virgin to mean "a possessor of a hymen" them I'm absolutely correct in saying that men could never be considered a virgin. The word for virgin in this context is "betula" and it applies only to females. "Dam betulim" = hymenal bleeding.
Dylan Bennett
Which is of course why it's pluralized in a masculine tense and not a feminine one.
Joshua Campbell
in other words she'd still be asking for it
Matthew Johnson
If you believe this, you're dopey.
Xavier Lee
>"What do you mean ancient people didn't conform to modern views of sexuality!" >"Y-you're a dope!"
Nolan Green
This. Human genocide before the modern era has historically been extremely rare. They might interbreed until a people were essentially unrecognizable from their ancestors but it isn't like when the Franks invaded France they genocided the local inhabitants.
Owen Hall
Quite the argument. You upset your god isn't so special after all?
Jason Edwards
>with a touch of Eurasian ancestry Where the fuck do they think Canaan is?
Josiah Bailey
>Genetic evidence suggests the Canaanites weren’t destroyed after all
WTF? The Canaanites built the first Temple.
> people like you need to be intellectually sterilized
