Is the American military force the greatest military in human history?

Is the American military force the greatest military in human history?
If not who is?

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In relative or absolute terms?

both

Both are true.

>greatest military force in human history
>cant beat some gook peasants with rusty farm tools

>peasants that were being backed by a superpower

We could beat them if we really wanted to, there would just be a lot of human rights violations.

>having to resort to committing massive human rights violations to beat gook farmers with rusty farm tools

It has the biggest budget, largest size, and has realitively globalized its control or in otherwords spread it's influence militarily. So yes it is.

But to be fair the US's dominance as a world superpower and ability to cooperate with so many nations across the globe is the only real reason why it is seen as the best.

In more recent years the military has shrunk and its leading hierarchy of command is comparatively weak to what it was 20-30 years ago.

>In more recent years the military has shrunk and its leading hierarchy of command is comparatively weak to what it was 20-30 years ago.

Good.

A superpower that couldn't beat a bunch of sandniggers with peashooters

>war, with human rights in tact

On the other hand, if we are talking about an invasion of the US, Unlike the rest of the world the US has around 100 million armed civilian ready to blast away anyone who threatens their freedom.

Knowing this, the eternal letters has undermines the infrastructure of the US and started destroying it from within. In the freedoms of the US will be dismantled and the invasion of the old Americano will be destroyed.

#staywoke

In our time, yes. In comparison to rome at its height no, since Rome had the balls to decimate areas and then call it peace

Obviously.

Sandniggers with peashooters who were backed by a superpower
Really makes you think

In potential power most definitely, but remember that they've managed to fuck up almost every single conflict they've entered in the past half-century, and all of these have been against what should have been vastly inferior opponents. Its completely up in the air how they would perform against a power that more closely rivals theirs (also potentially).

>a superpower couldn't beat a primitive nation because it was backed by another superpower
>the superpower who backed the primitive nation can't beat some other primitive nation because it's backed by the other superpower

This was literally the cold war.

Lol not by a long shot

muh 30 million casualties

Genghis Khan

Relative: by a very long mile, the USA has made the entire world its bitch and the best opponent they collapsed in 1991.
Absolute: probably, but that is far more subjective. You could argue for rome, or one of the early Persian dynasties, or Chinese, or the mongols, maybe the timurids, or the British empire

>leafs are still talking about 1812

Fuck off A*erican.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Speedy_Express

>The Cold War was political Pokemon

Contrary to popular belief, the U.S military isn't Invincible. There is one fatal weakpoint about it that could be exploited. It's how goddamn EXPENSIVE the U.S military is to maintain. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars on their own have cost America more than Five Trillion Dollars. Destroy America's economy, and you destroy it's military.

America's economy is the worlds economy.

This, America is too nice to commit genocides or mass exterminations compared to other military superpowers in history.

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That doesn't refute my point. It simply means America's collapse would effect the rest of world.

War of 1812 was fought almost entirely by state militias, not regular army.

Now here is the PPP list. The list that TRULY matters.

Wow that is amazing, I don't understand why the US are 20 559 222 096 081 dollars in debt then!?
It's almost like they believe owning the new iPhoneâ„¢ while having huge credit card debt means being "rich".

The EU is gonna be a superpower to behold once it federalizes and establishes it's own army.

>debt mattering

>retards still think national debt=personal debt but scaled up
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

This reaks of revisionist butt hurt

bait

Never said that. But it nicely reflects the American mentality of thinking to be no. 1 at everything when they are pretty much at nothing.
Plus 3/4 Americans are in fact in debt. Stop living in denial.

On the Canadian side it was. Pretty pathetic the professional army of the United States was defeated 3 times by shitty Canadian militia and Indians.

Weren't the Canadians just brits back then?

The British were the ones who actually attacked America on American soil. Canadians just defended Canada from invasion

But they weren't Canadians in the sense that they are now. There was no nation of Canada at the time.

This is uncannily retarded

>Mentions US national debt
>Follows with practice of buying iPhones when in debt
>But user that has nothing to do with anything
>Never said it did
You're a retard, thru n thru

The American forces were militia, as it was assumed they would be adequate. The invasion was led by the Kentucky Militia, hence the famous quote from Henry Clay;
>"the militia of Kentucky are alone competent to place Montreal and Upper Canada at our feet."

Of the 528,000 Americans involved in the War 458,000 (87%) were militiamen, The 57,000 (10%) regulars only becoming involved during the Niagara Campaign w/ their victory at the Battle of Chippawa and staying primarily on the "western front" fighting the arguably more important Creek and Tecumseh Wars. That's why defense of DC was left in the hands of state militia.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick."
Just because we don't use our stick, it doesn't mean it's smaller

The US soldier is the best trained, equipped, supported, and led soldier in history.

Despite this, the US military still manages to finds it impossible to strategically defeat sandle wearing brown people across the globe.

Relatively speaking the Roman Imperial army, in the modern sense strategically and operationally speaking it would have to be the German wehrmacht. Specifically the waffen ss..it was the most diverse Army ever assembled since Rome...and their victories won in it's prime are truly epic.

Insurgency mixed with guerrilla tactics is nearly impossible for an outside force to stomp out no matter what you hit it with

That war was lost at home purposely, the same fuckin c.i.a. that committed crimes against humanity covertly while the regular standing forces we're walking on eggshells; were the same saddistic bastards who were conducting mind control experiments en masse on a whole generation of dopey adulescents using aleister Crowley's teachings through the music they covertly manufactured all the while promoting recreational drug use through their agents like Timothy Lear...this bullshit mind control experiment started with the Beatles mind you, and how they slowly went from singing innocent ballads to introducing satanic eastern mysticism and whimsically spouting anti Christ sentiment.

>average yearly income

I wonder what the median would be, without the plutocrats pumping up the mean..

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>Is the American military force the greatest military in human history?
no
>who is?
pic related

Absolutely not. Their power projection doesn't even come close to what the Roman, Achaemenid, the Mongol Empire and British Empire could. They can't even make Mexico pay for the wall, a country at their border. Their GDP is barely larger than China. Really the only thing America has is cultural hegemony, albeit that was set up nicely by the British Empire.

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This. The disagreement over the new Russia sanctions are a good indicator. US surpremacy is heavily based on shared cultural and political values. Under constant threat from the SU Europe was ready to overlook a lot of things but since the War on Terror started this rift is growing. The election of Trump which in reality has little political consequence.

The EU is going to develop a joint military due to Russia and Border Security. The Brexit on the other hand unites the EU and will lead to necessary reforms long term.

A more Independent EU, a rapidly arming China and a destabilized middle East with a meddling Russia is too much for the decaying American Economy.

America First isolationism is simply the political movement that formulates the widely held belief that America is caught in a state of Imperial overcommitment.

The new Great powera that emerge will be :

-USA
-EU
-China

Secondary powers:
-Russia
-GB (if the scots don't secede)
-Brazil
-India
-Australia


Middle East, Africa and Central Asia are the places were the Great powers and the Secondary powers meddle.

*which in reality has little political consequence furthers the cultural rift

>impoverished farmers hiding in caves and among the civilian populace
>get fucking obliterated the moment they poke their head out by a hellfire missile
>get lucky around once a month with an IED

Wow, such a great fighting force. 10/10

>US has to abandon gold standard
>military capacity for interventionist actions hampered for at least a decade
>draft has to be abolished

>US has to abandon gold standard
Cool
>military capacity for interventionist actions hampered for at least a decade
Literally not true because we're currently intervening with ISIS and we were the deciding force in their defeat.
>draft has to be abolished
Last I checked every 18 year old male is required to sign up for the draft.

>cool

Edgy. Shows you only know Pop History or you are trying to bait.

>muh IS

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>for at least a decade
>Vietnam war appearantly happened in 2007

>muh you have to sign up

Ok. So the draft isn't abolished but isn't enforced. Because of Vietnam.

>Lost militarily
I think you should brush up on your Vietnam war history. Pussy libs wanted the US to pull out, and as soon as Nixon came in and took the gloves off they came begging for peace.

>Edgy. Shows you only know Pop History or you are trying to bait.
Cool.
>Vietnam war apparently happened in 2007
Not really sure what point you're trying to make here.
>Ok. So the draft isn't abolished but isn't enforced. Because of Vietnam.
Or maybe it isn't enforced because it isn't necessary at the moment. If actual war broke out with another country that wasn't a third-world shithole, the draft would be enforced.

All this butthurt in one post lmao

>fuck up in vietnam
>fuck up in Iraq
>fuck up in Afghanistan
>fuck up in Syria
>fuck up in iran (pending)

Why do Amerifats take so much pride in their armed forces?

Dear god that picture is a salt mine!

How are amerifags so delusional?

>we wuz greatest military n sheit
>lose against literal shitsticks

Wew

I didn't know Surface to air missiles and thousands of arms and latest migs counted as rusty farm tools

>greatest military force
>has had a pretty piss-poor track record since World War II
>draws if not outright losses against inferior forces
>only able to sweep through camel jockeys and even then they can't maintain order and fall prey to guerrilla tactics
The US military is all about force projection more than actual fighting ability. All bark, no bite. Take away the technology and they'd get stomped.

When? Its not so hard to win wars with 1:50 proportions with opponent.

Because conventional war between major powers has been all but made extinct by their rise to power, which is why most of these replies can only bring up insurgencies, guerrilla wars, and police actions in lieu of relevant discussion. We live in a period termed "the Long Peace" after all, as it's such a rarity in human history. A history in which the totality of US deaths from over a decade spent fighting multiple wars in the Middle East amounts to less than the number of American lives lost at Iwo Jima, a single battle in a conventional war.

Define "best"?

There's a lot of things a military can be the best at

best tactics?
best equipement?
most well trained soldiers?

tell us!

>draws if not outright losses against inferior forces
Like? Can you name a single battle America has lost decisively? Or are you just talking out of your ass about complex political situations you don't really know anything about?

It's the gayest because it doesn't fights. It just lays bombs at that's all

>putting lives as risk instead of just pushing a button because some guy thinks bombing is gay

I don't care about casualties and ratios and shit though. It's delusional to think that any of the us military's recent campaigns has been anything but a total failure to achieve its political and military goals.

It's not about decisive losses though. It's about a general inability to achieve military and political goals as well as adapt to guerilla tactics. Take Iraq for instance. The is curbstomped Saddam's conventional army, but completely failed to either secure the country or install a friendly regime.

It's the staggering contrast between the military's ability to achieve military goals and it's ineffectiveness as an instrument of foreign policy that's been debated since 2003.

youtube.com/watch?v=d3xlb6_0OEs

>2012 China'd GDP
kek

individual battle outcomes don't matter pedro - only the final result.

>humiliated
We threw the gooks completely out of the country and then got bored. We were not "humiliated"/

In relative terms...
ifyou analyze population, number of battles/wars and racio of win lose, dimension etc..

Usa are not in the top 5, i would go for:

-France
-England
-Portugal
-Russia
-Netherlands

France hasn't head a decent military victory since Napoleon
Talking about losing to sandnigger with Rusty tools have you ever heard of Algeria ?

France has 1000 years of battles, go analyze their all historical ratio and than say it again.

>fail all objectives
>lose billions in equipment
>lose thousands of troops
>'we won'

Their capitalist in the end, with one of the highest rates of approval for America

Literally irrelevant, besides France has been wrecked by multiple countries on you're list.

Burger, calling irrelevant to countries like France, England, Portugal or Netherlands, countries that shapped the face of the planet for centuries. USa appered in the scene yesterday son. and you are already about to fall.

Your time is over old man

Did you read my post? I'm talking about your bullshit medieval battles having anything to do with finding the absolute best military power
Besides France lost to Russia and Britain so how do you reconcile that you dirty fucking frog.

>Their capitalist in the end, with one of the highest rates of approval for America

by this logic, since you all speak English, the Brits won the war of independence.

also 'they're' not 'their'

'You'll be as irrelevant as us soon!'
- people who can't change their own fucking tires

confirmed for never having played war

I forgot America was a communist insurgency during the war of independence.
The Vietnam war was to stop the spread of communism in a (ironically enough cause of this douche ) former French Colony, compare that to at all what you said.

>helicopters flying overhead
>shooting your guns in the air

what are your standards for not fucking up in a conflict?

No it's your country that is dying bro. "Minorities" will take over Usa it's a matter of time.

Minorities are taking over everywhere, it's inevitable. Atleast ours aren't Islamic, though.

pretty sure russia is doing more than the us to defeat isis