>The Jews Are Allegedly The Source Of All That's Foul

Stormfag/neo-Nazi propaganda is a curious thing. Right now they are even inventing new events to legitimize the Nazis and their regime.

"Danzig massacres" is a very new invention.

Well noone claims that 6 million died in ovens and gas chambers alone. Now substantiate why 6m is unrealistic.

Engage in a thought experiment, OP. Imagine, regardless of whether this is true or not in reality, that the holocaust didn't really happen in the way most people think it did and that it wasn't actually much worse from any other internment camp under war conditions where supplies were scarce and people suffered as a consequence of that scarcity. Now suppose the claim that there was an evil genocide inflicted upon the Jews is being used as an excuse to influence how modern people think about themselves and their nations and how legislation and policy decisions are formed. And imagine you knew the truth, and you see how everyone around you doesn't and is instead self-hating and sees their / your nation as a disgrace instead of an enterprise to believe in and help build up. Maybe, hypothetically, this situation would annoy you a little.
I'm not even a white nationalist, but use your imagination for fuck's sake. It's not that hard to figure out where people are coming from if you actually bother to try thinking for a minute.

It's not unrealistic. Hitler also starved some Jews, but most of them were shot or gassed.

>unorganized mobs with machetes killed 1mln in 3 months in Rwanda
>6mlns in 4 years is unrealistic for an industrialized state
Right.

I occasionally contemplate the idea of trying to make money off /pol/tards by selling them something. Would be both amusing and profitable, although I wouldn't want to accidentally give them any free PR by doing this.

How much hard evidence is there for the 1.1 million number for rwanda anyway? Genuinely curious.

Genocide numbers are almost always wildly exaggerated but always seemingly taken at face value.

Basically this. WN is actually kinda interesting desu, becaue it's a weird cult devoted to Hitler but like Hitler's odious message was quite different from your average WN's odious personal message. I mean for shit's sake Hitler didn't ever once even say the term "White"

But you don't know the truth. You have a theory, just like the mainstream narrative is a theory. I can understand questioning the mainstream narrative. It's always good to question. What I don't understand is buying into the stormfag narrative full tilt and starting to longingly gaze at Adolf Hitler photos while you rant about how it never happened but it should have.

I said I'm not a white nationalist you idiot. Fucking read. I'm trying to help you understand your opponent as an alternative to your smug masturbation over retarded strawman versions of them.

> Genocide numbers are almost always wildly exaggerated but always seemingly taken at face value.
It's an estimate, but with all the investigations I think it's pretty close.

> that it wasn't actually much worse from any other internment camp under war conditions where supplies were scarce and people suffered as a consequence of that scarcity.

>Doesn't list all the examples
>The Nazi Policies dindu nuffin

>This butthurt over a pronoun.
You can change it to THEY don't know the truth, THEY just have a theory, and the underlying logic is the same.

When are you going in for your surgery, user?

Ok fine, my apologies. Just replace "you" in what I wrote with "the hypothetical person you described".

>hurr dey worship Hitler
half of the time there is a thread on stormfront about how they should distance themselves from him completely, they even used to have discussions about whether or not jews should be included in white nationalism efforts

Hitler cultism was always a minor aspect of stormfront they're just generic fascists

You're not fooling anybody here pol.

Well, we're not just literally talking about Stormfront here. For example, the term "stormfag" refers to all those types of people, at least it does the way I use it.
I know they try to distance themselves from Hitler sometimes, but I get the sense that in a lot of cases that's just more doublethink, and they still secretly idealize Hitler.

>they even used to have discussions about whether or not jews should be included in white nationalism efforts

I'm guessing they're counting other MENAs like Iranians, Palestinians, Berbers, etc. as White?

Iranians kind of. A lot of Palestinians posted there for a while too when they went through some weird phase of trying to build solidarity against Israel.

I'm telling you man stormfront is wet wild stuff.

you really notice this when you get two nazis trying to simultaneously convince you that Hitler hated capitalism and wanted Germany to be socialist; but also he was only pretending to be socialist to trick the Strasserists, and Germany would be a Pinochet-style capitalist utopia when the war ended

I'm not arguing that they're right. I'm explaining how to understand why they think the way they do. That's why I made a point to use the word "hypothetical" repeatedly.
See above. You're all failing to understand what a hypothetical is. I have no interest in arguing that the hypothetical person is right. I'm explaining to you how to understand why they think and behave the way they do so you can have a real conversation with them.

>I'm just pretending to be retarded

Next you'll start We Wuzzing.

Holocaust denial is as old as the nazis themselves. They even made a documentary completely denying it while it was happening right at that very moment and claimed the jews were being made into productive, useful people in the eastern "camps".

wtf I love race realism now

No you're not. You're providing a favorable strawman of what the "hypothetical person" thinks is right, and glossing over the actual nature of the information used to support such beliefs and the doublethink used to resolve the glaring contradictions in it.

>and claimed the jews were being made into productive, useful people in the eastern "camps".
are you trying to imply that soap and slave labor isn't useful?

>if you jump through my hoops it will make perfect sense
lel

not an argument
he didnt though, there were food supplies
>comparing every single nigger in a country killing everyone they see to systematic gas gas gas

Are all leftists born genetically deficient or does that deficiency develop with time?

I said from the beginning "regardless of whether this is true or not in reality." I was never trying to argue I believed in what they believe in. I was giving you an answer to the OP's question of how they could believe those two points about jews at the same time. This is why you get nowhere with people you disagree with. You're not even trying to imagine how they think, as demonstrated by how you can't understand the difference between my giving you an explanation of how they think vs. my saying "Hitler was right, gas the jews now!"

Not even him but I personally deny the Holocaust out of pure spite, and I'm hoping more people start doing it too as the grand children of Holocaust survivors start to claim "generational trauma" in a plot to extort more money out of Germans and christ cucked evangelicals from the south. And there is nothing you can do to stop me.

Here's pol.

Maybe, just maybe not believing that the holohoax happened and wanting it to happen are two entirely different things? Have you ever thought about that?

>he didnt though, there were food supplies
You know very little about the conditions in concentration camps and ghettos. Starvation was a common thing there.

This is why Julius Evola is the only correct form of anti semitism and right wing politics. Accept your place in the caste, and suffer not. Hell, I'm fine with being a peasant, I'm already as miserable as one.

Tell us about all the respected academics saying the Holocaust didn't happen. Are they down there with the Creationists and Afrocentrics?

(((Who)) are these (((respected))) (((academicss))) that you listen to? Might want to try and use that stupid head of yours instead of listening to what someone else tells you to, okay?

fuck off stormcuck
>Im denying the holocaust to stop muh zionist bennies
oh please, there are only about 25k holocaust survivors left who are still recipients of german reparations , totaling about a few millions a year. And every passing year it is a little less as claimants are all dying of old age. In grand total germany has paid about 70billions back to Israel and jewish organisations. That's less than half of what it currently spends annually on healthcare. Literally a drop in the ocean in comparison.

Just come out the closet already and stop hiding behind fake "altruism"

There is not a single respected academic that denies the Holocaust.

>Might want to try and use that stupid head of yours instead of listening to what someone else tells you to, okay?
Well, stormfags do it all the time. Except they believe people without academic degrees, people who never worked in an archive or never wrote a serious book.

>Ayo Hol Up We Wuz Kangz/Hebrews/Redskins/Romans/Meh N Shieet Whitey Be Lyin About Hs Not Be Kangz N Shieet

>((Who)) are these (((respected))) (((academicss)))

Please no. Not like this. Not like this.

>it's only $70 billion stupid goy, stop caring

Use your dumb head, you absolute kike. Go read on the (((holocaust))) and tell me that 6 million jews were killed, go on. The (((holocaust))) was nothing more than slavery, somethng that has been practiced by humanity since its existence. Too bad Hitler didn't kill them, the entire world would have been better off.

The little nigger is trying to type. How cute.

What did he mean by this?

/thread

I'm sure I've read more about the holocaust than you. And yes, roughly 6 million Jews were killed.

There is misinformation or a lie in every single one of your points.

Because your revisuonist "historians" purposefully omit known, physical evidence when drafting their narratives to try to debunk the general consensus. Naturally they never get approved by their peers due to obvious research bias. Go back to your youtube channels and "redpilled" ecelebs.

Where's your proof 6 gorillion jews were killed? And I mean actual proof, not what some jew says about lampshades and such.

>Wow, 70billions over 70years for attempted genocide is a fucking outrage amirite fellow pedes xDD
this is (You)

Try reading it first instead of posting like a retard. Also, not an argument.

Add what the US pays them and they're set for life. The only reason jewlandia even exists is because of Germany and US's financial and military help.

You herbs will be charging the germans until the end of fucking time, eventually your greed will do you in as it always does assuming the Palestinians don't outbreed you and conquer you with their wombs first.

>why wont you trust my non-peer reviewed """academics"""
I explained why, you just dont understand avademic rigor and source analysis.

>not an argument
I wouldn't boast about watching a brainlet like molymeme

>this is what pol actually believes

You literally just said that you're "trusting" what someone else says to you. You can't think for yourself, you're unable to look for the necessary information without someone saying "look here goyim, this is what you need to think". You're a goddamn sheep and nothing more. And that's that, I won't reply to you.

I'm trusting certain sources. I've never seen a good article written by deniers. Most of the time they just refernce other IHR's articles or clearly very biased works.

Where is the evidence that 6 million jews died? Where? I want to see it. Give me your "certain" sources. Where does that number 6 million number even come froM?

Not him, but are you completely retarded? He greentexted, with an implication that you shouldn't be trusting Holocaust denier gurus. It is also literally the first time the word "trust" is used in the thread, to talk about how you SHOULDN'T trust a sub-set of people.

Were you dropped as a baby? Or perhaps kicked?

Does it even matter if it sets them for life? The reparations are justified. Dont do the crime if you dont want to get the time.

>Palestinians

Repeat after me: Palestinians don't have a more legitimate claim than Israelis.

Are one of the undereducated Trump loves?

>people who lived there for centuries don't have a more legitimate claim than recent immigrants
I wonder if this mindset is gonna backfire in 50 years in Europe.

I'm not disagreeing. The land will eventually go to whoever can gestate the most meatshields. ;^)

From statistical research. At least 4 million people were murdered. We know this thanks to German documents. Of course they are not complete so definitely more Jews were killed by the Nazis.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Höfle_Telegram
There is for example this.

And this:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jäger_Report

Read The Destruction of the European Jews. It's over 1000 pages long and will tell you all you need to know.

>Pretending none of the Palestinians are immigrants or descended from them
>Pretending Ashkenazi Jews are the majority of Israelis

Please dude. He's just going to call it out as

>kikeapedia

What Palestinians? Palestinian Jews or Muhammadan Arabs? Palestinian 'nationality' does not exist.

That sure helped Achmed all those times he lost to Jews.

Yup, Hitler was never a "white" nationalist
>taking hitler's autism seriously
>anyone who sides with me is aryan
>anyone who defies me become subhuman that needs to be exterminated
Funny how Serbs went from Dinaric subrace to subhumans and Croats became Goths, not Slavs, overnight on March 27th 1941

HSAHHAHAHAHAHAHa, WHAT A FUCKING RETARD. The Hoefle telegram says nothing about the killing of jews, it's a record of jewish prisoners transported. Not to mention you using Wikipedia as a source and we all know hwho writes the articles there. Is that your "trusted" academics?

Oh my god, is your IQ that of a potato? Did you even read his previous posts for context? His main logic is "i listen to better academics than you do'' instead of trying to think for himself.

They're not. Israel shouldnt even exist as a nation. Social parasites like the gypsies - nomad, that's their place.

Trump is a kike. But at least he is better than Hillary.

Also:

>pol mad about Achmed getting whooped

Conquest is uncool now?

>Oh my god, is your IQ that of a potato? Did you even read his previous posts for context? His main logic is "i listen to better academics than you do'' instead of trying to think for himself.
No, his main logic is that deniers completely ignore evidence that doesn't fit their narrative, which is why everyone shits on them, as explicitly stated here(Hint, to make a judgment like that requires knowledge of actual evidence)

>The Hoefle telegram says nothing about the killing of jews
What happened to these Jews? Treblinka was a very small camp, what happened to 700.000 Jews transported there? For some reason they all disappeared after they arrived to Treblinka.

>The Holocaust kinda undermines the idea of Jews being in control of everything
Not really, according to them the Jews control everything and the Holocaust being believed by most sane people is proof of that

>70 million die in 6 years
>b-b-but 6 million can't die in 4 years!
DO

>You literally just said that you're "trusting" what someone else says to you.
Where did that user actually say this?

It's honestly amazing. Doesn't the fact that the jews control everything kind of undermine the idea of whites being the master race?

If Jews control the banks, media, government and have successfully fooled the world into believing that the holocaust happened I'm left with the realization that the jews are without a doubt the single most competent people to ever live. Truly the master race.

The Holocaust denial. Make it stop. We have this thread daily.
t. former /pol/ tard

It's never gonna end, simply due to how controversial it is

There is no evidence that the holohoax ever happened so of course I'm going to ignore it. Only evidence is of them being worked in camps and some of them contracting typhus, that's it. Other than that - nothing.

Treblinka was a holding camp, the jews were meant to be expelled east. After the Soviets came who knows what happened to them? But there is no evidence in German documents to suggest that Germans ever killed the jews. Absolutely none.

If you mean "deporting them east", as Himmler himself says, as "OHHH DATS A SECRET CODE FOR KILLING THEM!" Then believe what you want.

>b-but muh transit camps!
>rumors about Germans exterminating Jews spread all over the world
>instead of showing that nothing bad happens to Jews the Germans are incredibly secretive about their "transit camps"
>Majdanek is full of signs saying that making photos is absolutely forbidden
What did the Nazis mean by this?

No, you dolt. My logic is learning from reputable academics then you're more likely to form a well-informed opinion. If you rely on shoddy/biased teachers then your logic is gonna be skewed and people end up like you. One second you fuckers claim about denying the holocaust purely for altruistic reasons, then you celebrate their deaths while stating jews/israel shouldn't even exist. Like OP sa8d, you deny and celebrate it in the same breath. Your argument is a mess because your head is a mess from all the retrded memes you saved on your PC. Get some help.

I really wish /pol/ would just do what I did and read Evola, then stop caring and get to work on the 14 words. The 88 is fucking choking sensible white ethnonationalism.

Start with this.

www.archive.org/details/BelzecSobiborTreblinka.HolocaustDenialAndOperationReinhard.ACritique

For instance, it deals with idiotic notions you mention in this very post. "Jews were being expelled east". How the FUCK are the Germans supposed to be expelling Jews to the USSR in the middle of a war with said USSR? How the hell does that even begin to make sense?

>But there is no evidence in German documents to suggest that Germans ever killed the jews. Absolutely none.
I like how you completely ignored the other guy's mention of the Jager report. Or the plethora of other crap that exists where they quite explicitly talk about it.

gelnhausen.de/PDFDat/dauerausst_synagoge.pdf

That post reminded me of this

Except Einsatzgruppen reports or things like Kinna report or Himmler's speech, or Taubner's trial, or hundreds of eyewitnesses...

And you know, Treblinka stopped all operations in late 1943, almost a year before the Soviets arrived there. They obviously did not find any Jews there. So 900.000 people just disappeared.

That reminds me of that 1 caricature of 14 being burdened by 88

>not an argument

When and why did this become a valid phrase to use to disrupt discourse and discussion? Was it just Molyneux or was it around before him?

The typical Holocaust denier position is
>the Holocaust never happened, but it should have