Why are the native people of the US one of the only peoples almost completely wiped out by colonialism?

Why are the native people of the US one of the only peoples almost completely wiped out by colonialism?

>South/Central America and Mexico full of mestizos
>Africa is Africa
>Abos
>Pacific Islanders still have tribes people

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Britain sent fully formed families to live in the colonies, there was no need for Natives.

Spain sent armies to conquer the colonies, the men took their wives from among the natives and they eventually learned to get along

those other colonial powers didn't have any Destiny to Manifest

>they eventually learned to get along
"no"

They couldn't beat the Quechua warrior.

Because intentional genocide is really hard to do. It takes a lot of organization, which pre-modern states generally aren't very good at. You need to economically be willing to shoot yourself in the foot for years, maybe decades, hunting down and killing a bunch of people who otherwise could be put to some kind of productive work.

As such, it was very rarely done, certainly not successfully. The native Americans, on the other hand, mostly died out to disease. That doesn't require any planning at all, just a bunch of jackasses spreading all over the place, which is a fairly natural course of action.

Would the settlers have tried to live in coexistence with the natives if it werent for the brits being tax fags?

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>Abos
>not almost wiped out

In South America the natives mixed with the incomers. In North America, they didn't. Because there were so few Indians, and so many Americans, whos' ways of life ensured conflict between the two, there was only ever one outcome.

Plus, there were very few Native Americans in general. Only something like 5000 Apaches, 50, 000 Sioux.

Yeah, the Americas were mostly conquered biologically.

Now in the US specifically, I'm not sure how much of a role biology played. Here, a thing called Manifest Destiny was the driving force to Western expansion through lands occupied by the natives. Many died in the numerous wars with and forced removal by the US. Instead of conquering people and gaining them under an international empire, the US was conquering land for its own people to move into and wanted nothing to do with the natives. If they wanted to join in, cool. If not, then GTFO. It was built on the idea of American exceptionalism, that America and the institutions of her republican government are the best there is. We were destined to set an example for other countries to follow and build upon, and there was also the hardset belief by many that since we had the best government system in the world, we were delivering civilization to the Old World.

However, not all Americans were star spangled eyes looking to the West, there were some who wanted it for economic reasons, such as agricultural expansion.

It wasn't genocide in a traditional sense of rounding people up within your country and killing them. They beat the living shit out of natives in war and sent the rest to the west (Trail of Tears).

A lot of people don't realize how bad disease hurt the Native Americans, 90%, yes 90%, of them died from european diseases, most of them without ever having met or even heard of a white person through trade networks and the spread of animals like feral pigs. When white settlers wrote in their records about how amazed they were at all this empty land they were finding, they didn't realize it was because all the locals who had been living there had all gotten sick and died just before they arrived. You remember Squanto who helped the pilgrims at Plymouth? The reason he was there was because that was his peoples land but he was the only survivor after european fisherman had come through and unknowingly got his entire tribe sick.

Deseases are a hell of a thing.

But yeah, Maori wiped out plenty of unique groups. Bantu too. Some Chinese provinces have recently discovered skeletons of wiped out peoples. Europe's conquest of North America is very far from new or unique at all.

North America was properly, fully colonized.

But also disease wiped out so many, if it hadn't there would be much more.

90% is an upper estimate, just like how there are claims there were 100 million natives before Europeans arrived. It was certainly the cause of the overwhelming majority of deaths though

Because Anglos sent to the new world were hardcore English Reformists (Puritans) who considered all forms of racemixing catholic and thus punishable by death. As independent survivalists, they managed their affairs well compared to other business-oriented colonies that often had famines and disease outbreaks. By the 1760s, their population had grown enough where they were trying to expand eastward into indian territory ("indiana") but the King would not allow it as the King recognized tribal lands of tribes who recognized his authority.

To that end, the American question was solved with the American Revolution: the United States would be expanding eastward and indians were now non-people facing eviction. This is what occurred under Andrew Jackson, who led them to their designated containment zone in Oklahoma (an infertile wasteland) in the Trail of Tears. Luckier indians escaped to Canada, where they more or less were allowed to assimilate as they recognized the Crown. Two centuries of living in that desert passed, as American society passed them (literally so with the opening of the Transcontinental Railroad in 1865 and the Sunset Route in 1888). Attempts to "modernize" them largely failed since welfare programs simply gave them money, which they all spend on alcohol.

Then, the Great Depression began and the Feds built the water projects causing a massive white migration into the sunbelt. Postwar aerospace and nuclear jobs cemented it. At this point the only "successful" tribe is the Navajos because they used this situation to sell cheap coal power to Socal Edison while running cheap casinos for Arizonans too lazy to drive to Vegas. Everyone else is just sort of stumbling into history, one DUI at a time.

Because wagon burners are fucking stupid, Exhibit A:

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>ISLETA PUEBLO, N.M. (KRQE) – A 15-year-old Isleta Pueblo teen is lucky to be alive after a Rail Runner train sped right over him as he slept on the tracks.

>The incident happened a little before 8 a.m. on a Saturday morning earlier this month. The train was headed southbound at around 62 MPH, south of Isleta Village near where Tribal Road 40 crosses the tracks when the collision occurred. “The engineer thought he was looking at a pile of debris,” said Augusta Meyers, a spokesperson for MRCOG, which runs the Rail Runner.

The engineer thought he was looking at a pile of debris. That is what indians are due to generations of sustained alcohol and drug abuse on top of their original relocations.

>Everyone else is just sort of stumbling into history, one DUI at a time.

It's sad but this is an accurate summary of the situation. The most immediate problem facing American indians is that they are never ever sober, a massive problem in a society where cars are the defacto mode of transportation (especially on their sparsely populated reservations). This inevitably leads to a lot of deaths that could be avoided by simply not getting behind the wheel.

Their time is over, and is proof that nomadic lifestyles cannot compete at all with industrial society.

The eternal Anglo is vicious. Literally worse than Hitler and I'm not even kidding.

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Probably. A lot of settlers preferred to live with native communities over their colonies since they had greater liberties. It was quite a big problem.

Depends on the place and the year. When the pilgrims arrived, coexistence wasn't a choice. Chesapeake area colonies learned this the hard way when winter came around and many starved to death. However, a century later those plantations were making good money off tobacco and cotton sales (a result of better infrastructure allowing them to get those goods to European markets) to the point where they could afford their own weapons. This is when the expansion of king cotton necessitated the removal of indians from fertile southern (and later midwestern) lands.

After their "relocation", Federal reservations were unquestionably Federal property and indians were allowed to shoot squatters, and if they couldn't (say due to being blackout drunk) US Marshals would do it for them. This held true through the Mexican cessation, and communities around reservations accepted that they weren't places for white people. Reservations themselves aren't bound to state laws, which means that they have access to certain things (prostitutes, drugs, fully automatic guns, etc) people outside can't normally get. Additionally, reservations are not bound to state level pollution control laws (see the Navajos mentioned here ) which can provide work, if there's any willing workers (there usually is not unless it's garbage disposal aka dumping garbage into a hole and burning it). Occasionally someone tries to build something through a reservation (like a highway or pipeline) and protests occur, sometimes leading to a standoff.

Which is to say, coexistence occurred either due to a lack of resources preventing relocation, or a Federal lawman dealing with squatters by force.

note: Canadian injuns are different, as mentioned above they recognized the British monarch as their god so they typically weren't relocated. As a result they take lower income jobs but generally aren't much different than local people.

Ambos have been genocided, tasmanians were wiped.

Honestly I think there was never that many Indians to begin with and that their pre-colonial estimates are probably inflated as fuck to jew money from the whites.

Because the Andes and Mesoamerica had huge populations of sedentary farmers.
And US natives aren't "the only ones", in Brazil/Uruguay/Argentina it's the same

Apparently there used to be tons of native settlements alongside the Amazon but they got wiped out by disease before Europeans managed to find their way there.

I don't know dude. The other guys still exist.

>The native Americans, on the other hand, mostly died out to disease.

Even despite that there was a lot of intentional bullshit in trying to remove them form land or straight up killing them. The issue with the disease killed everyone narrative is that it glosses over the actions of various entities over the years that fucked up the populations.

Absolutely this.

The abhorrent behavior of the settlers wasn't the question though, the question was why are there so few American tribes remaining compared to the rest of the world, and the answer to that is disease.

But the majority of Indians weren't nomads. Most were settled farmers just like the Europeans who killed them. The only real nomads were some plains Indians but they were a lot lower before whites came. Not whites specifically, but feral horses coming up from spanish america was allowing nomads to go all Genghis Khan over many settled tribes for a short period before the whites caught up to their horses and killed whoever was leftover from the diseases.

ehh that actually depends on which communities and it varied on a community by community basis but it was heavily exacerbated by warfare, famine, resettlement, and the demoralizing disintegration of native social, political, and economic structures which really fucked shit hard..