Let's imagine the South successfuly secedes. When do they abolish slavery?

When the USA comes back with a bigger army and burns it to ashes.

According to the film "Goodbye Uncle Tom":

youtube.com/watch?v=wBZRTEj-uks&ytbChannel=NORMALIZATION OF IGNORANCE

Slaves were cheap and purchased in Louisiana until the Muslims started to raise prices on them. Instead of funding Islam, we started to create our own slave farms, raising black humans like cattle.

I will let your imagination do the rest.

explain, I don't have an imagination

I can see it now, a communist CSA.

Probably the best part about Harry Turtledove's Southern Victory series was the Confederate blacks going full blown Bolshevik during WW1.

Too bad it only lasted like half a book.

With or without a war?

>without a war

Many decades because the infastructure required to maintain slavery is still mostly intact and there's no incentive for change.

>with a war

Probably within 10-20 years because the massive loss of life and property, social upheaval, loss of the cotton monopoly, and threat of major uprisings permanently cripples slavery on an institutional level.

Except that leads to them all getting Shoah'd by Featherston and the Freedomites 20 years down the road

They become syndicalist once the average white realizes hes being replaced by slavea.

Yeah I mean I wish the actual Red Uprising had lasted longer in the books. If memory serves it already basically collapsing by Scipio's second or third chapter in Walk In Hell.

Featherston Was Right though.

As soon as the US tries to retake the CSA, and the British and French force them to abolish slavery for support. So maybe 1875 or 1880.

>As soon as the US tries to retake the CSA
why would they do that?

They "abolished" slavery in the last months of the war. Not directly, but black men who joined the confederate army were granted their freedom and even equal pay (which the north did not give to the colored troops). Even armed several thousand blacks but iirc they never saw combat.

You can argue it as an act of desperation but it also shows how the American civil war gradually shifted from the issue of slavery to independence of the south, and, by the end of the war, the Confederate leadership was willing to free slaves to maintain independence (or save their own skin, if you will)

The US wasn't importing slaves anymore, they were "self sufficient", in other words the Black population was increasing despite no new arrivals.

Before someone goes and takes a swing at me, they never explicitly freed the slaves but it was accepted that raising an army of blacks and then having them restored to slavery after the war was not a realistic possibility, especially if the black troops would provide the tipping point in the war. Which is why so much opposition to it was raised.

I do find it rather ironic that the Confederates treated the black troops as equal to whites (at least on paper) while the north, which was fighting to free the blacks and restore the union, segregated them.

You can also find some pretty amazing news articles from the South about "patriotic negroes", especially towards the end of the war.

shits fucked up yo

>Lose majority of your country's east coast.
>Lose your capital city
>Corrupt oligarchy nations
>Why would they do that?
Are you retarded?

>why would the US attack other countries for land
It was a thing they did back then. Do you think the USA was always as large as it is now?

They don't, they eventually get slaughtered and raped by blacks like happened in Haiti.

Worst mistake was not enacting this in 1862 before the Emancipation Proclamation gave blacks a stake in who won and who lost. Doing afterward meant they would always have more trouble recruiting them than the Union would.

Right after Brazil.

a decade or two at most. horse drawn farming machines started appearing. which would have made slavery uneconomical.

Not true at all, especially about Britain