What is fascism?

Corporate and business interests will have a great say in politics. Money power will play a big role. Their interests will be put above the interests of the people.

Fascism = Crony Capitalism

Capitalism with fangs.

What sort of overtly capitalist state would ever want to have autarky?

it's actually quite simple

what is anime?

Read Mussolini. It is basically a rebellion against capitalism (and modernity) that rejects communist doctrine from the core.
Fascism, unlike capitalism and Socialism, is not purely economical, it involves manny more aspects of life that would be unthinkable for manny.
Economically speaking it is very strange. it used State intervention to keep a free market and guarantee private property among the people
>In a capitalist society, you could have two cows. But Mr Goldberg (who owns manny cows in third world countries and uses cheap labour but still has yet to step a foot on a single farm) could try to buy them, if you say no then he would lower his prices by adding additives to his milk, spend millions on an ad campaign that is basically "Buy our milk and you can fuck this model" and by using sheer size economics. You go bankrupt and now have to work for Mr Goldberg because he bought everything
>In a Fascist society Mr Goldberg would not be allowed to own so much and yet have had so little experience in farming to begin with (Corporatism), but even if he does the State would have told him to fuck off. If that does not work then the city prison would have more soap for the inmates.
Fascism is not an economic system. As you saw i used the word "Corporatism" which is the economic system that is used by fascism

Also, unlike post-French Revolution governments, Fascism rejects the idea that the State should stay out of people's lives and to never impose morality upon them. They also reject the idea that morality is subjective because they believe in a "Cosmic Order" from all their doctrine (political, social and economic) is based.
>In a capitalist/socialist society the State will only guarantee the freedom of everyone. Your rights end where his begin
>In a Fascist society people are given the 'freedom' of being free from their impulses and anything deemed as "Degenerate".

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With all that said. It is basically A revolt against the modern World that is perceived to have stripped humanity from its meaning and calls for immediate and violent action in the name of National Rebirth and regeneration
>tl;dr: Aesthetic Esoteric Post-Post Modernism

Bonus: Esoterism
Capitalism/Socialism
>Esoterism? Get that voodoo shit out of here, he live in the real world
>Except for the Invisible Hand™, that shit is as real as my money in the bank

Fascism
>You see, the reason of why the jews subvert is because they have lost their Logos and can thus only seek the material. This made them reject Jesus' message of love, so they turned to the Saurians who promised them material goods in exchange of enslaving the Goyim. Hitler (peace be upon him) who was not only the reincarnation of Vishnu, but also the Tulku, was sent from Hyperborea to stop the Jews and help humanity to reach the rebirth that will sent us to a new era of heath and prosperity. We only need to endure the Kali Yuga, after that the future shall be bright

Japanese animation

>black guy for monarchism
Hol up, u sayin

>unlike capitalism and Socialism
Capitalism and Socialism are not purely economical either. Socialism is an atheistic and anti-religion doctrine.

>NS and fascism is the same

Fuck off kid.

>state capitalism

wow source?

>muh memes tho

Pathetic.
>Corporatism, also known as corporativism, is the sociopolitical organization of a society by major interest groups, known as corporate groups, such as agricultural, business, ethnic, labour, military, patronage, or scientific affiliations, on the basis of their common interests.
>It is theoretically based on the interpretation of a community as an organic body. The term corporatism is based on the Latin root word corpus (plural corpora) meaning "body".
This is what "fascism" is, sadly the word is mostly applied to Germany, where they had something else entirely. Fascist is futuristic and secular, looking forward, not tied to ethnicity, while nazism is a reaction, looking backwards, tied to ethnicity, and very traditional.

>fascism=dajoos
>fascism=racism

Nice meme, but racial autism is not the main feature in all fascist regimes.

more like this

>fascism is capitalism, the more capitalistier is a country more fascistier it is.

At least read about the matter firsts

Germany was not fascist. The right wing coalition won with a fascist promise in the south, and a reactionary promise in the north; then the reactionaries purged the fascists from the movement and ruled alone.

Look at what the Germans built, wore, the music they made - they were trying to recapture a theoretical glorious past. Meanwhile the Italians were glorifying the potential glorious future.
Even in propaganda, in Germany it was about the proud rural farmer working his honest labor with his hand, in Italy it was the farmer resting under the tree while his son drives a tractor.

Italy was fascist, Germany was reactionary. They were very different, and forced into an alliance by circumstance.

Not at all (It was just a joke, brah) manny Jews marched with Mussolini. And Evola believen that there could be non jews that are evil and Jews with a good hearth. This came from how pragmatic and un-passionated it was when dealing with manny issues
Then Hitler came...
It's a meme believe by people who think in one dimension and know noting but left and right

Even if I despise the nazism racial esoteric bullshit, I find dishonest not consider it at least a sub product of fascism, especially when Hitler copies most of principles and tried to imitate mussolini with pathetic results.

>Fascism is not traditional
I remember reading in Fascist Italy they also made sure women remained housewives/in the kitchen just as they did in Nazi Germany until there weren't enough men left to work the factories

The most general and basic things - the vision, is completely different.
Germany was looking at its glorious monarchy just a few decades later, was going to restore former glory, etc. It was looking back, a protest against modernity.
Italy was looking to be the vanguard of modernity, looking forward, leaving the past behind. These are just very different philosophies.

Yes, they did some things in common, and so did the USSR do things in common with them, and so did Britain share the same "wartime socialism" thing that more or less everyone had to do.
But can you imagine this building in Germany, next to their neo-classical faux roman stuff? Can you imagine Hitler saying that he needs virile and savage black men to breed some wild blood into the lazy german gene pool?

If you consider eugenics, raising children, demographics, etc 20th century "scientific" policies that makes sense.

>I remember reading in Fascist Italy they also made sure women remained housewives/in the kitchen just as they did in Nazi Germany until there weren't enough men left to work the factories

Just like Stalinism

>During Joseph Stalin's rule, the trend toward strengthening the family continued. In 1936 the government began to award payments to women with large families, banned abortions, and made divorces more difficult to obtain. In 1942 it subjected single persons and childless married persons to additional taxes. In 1944 only registered marriages were recognized to be legal, and divorce became subject to the court's discretion. In the same year, the government began to award medals to women who gave birth to five or more children and took upon itself the support of illegitimate children.[1]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_in_the_Soviet_Union

>Can you imagine Hitler saying that he needs virile and savage black men to breed some wild blood into the lazy german gene pool?

More like the reverse thing in italian fascism

youtube.com/watch?v=NmcJD6_DwFE

BUF > PNF > the Iron Guard > Falange > literal shit >>>>>> N(((S)))DAP

>monarchism
Hell yes

Muh Nigga

Haven't we have same threads almost every couple of days?

It is Traditional but not conservative. Old values preserve by the new way, instead of letting the old way to rot and spoil everything
You can see some of that in the phrase "A book and a rifle make the perfect fascist"

Source on gif

I just read Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered this morning. Sir Oswald was a hero and it genuinely hurts that he was never elected prime minister

Mosley was grounded and sane, even like that se has able to move manny and create a powerful image. Proof that you do not need to promise the stars to get people on your side

he did a good job of adapting the basic principles of fascism to fit the British character. As a leaf I find it much easier to subscribe to the BUF's version of fascism than the grandiose Rome wanking of Italian fascism or the German autism of national socialism. He was a true revolutionary

Isn't Mosley's fascism just continuation of what they were doing, except to stop apologizing for it?

>the underclass starves in fascism
proofs? fascist regimes get shot to death, they don't starve to death.

The few millions captured by the russians sure starved ;^)
Anyway, at the end of the war, all of Europe was starving, because total war is a bitch.

I don't think any fascist movement ever "apologized for it" so I'm not quite sure what you're asking

I mean that british fascist movement was just for the continuation of british imperialist policies, and not feel bad about it. Meanwhile, the actual government was still continuing said policies, but feeling bad about it.

That is to say, Mosley wasn't for a change of policy, only for a change of attitude.

Valvrave the Liberator

I really don't want to read Mussolini's self-aggrandizing propaganda. Historical events prove that fascism is capitalism on attack mode, meant to defend status quo from socialist upheavals.

In 1920 600,000 Italian workers seized control of their factories. By 1922 there were no more worker-run factories thanks to fascists.

Mosley did spoke very bad of the exploitation of the third world
youtube.com/watch?v=2z9A-_M_frc

Mosley's thoughts on the Empire could be summed up thusly
>Britain first, the dominions second, the foreigner nowhere
he wanted to foster a growth of Indian culture in India, instead of forcing British culture upon them, while simultaneously using the British legislative power to increase pay and rights for Indian workers, both for the moral reason of improving their living conditions, as well as the pragmatic reason of lowering the profit margin of Indian goods in relation to British ones. Additionally, he believed that Britain and her dominions together were capable of total autarky, which he intended to encourage by closing British trade to foreigners, while encouraging direct bartering between colonial resource producers and British factories in order to forge closer links between those industries

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This is fucking bullshit. No one in the British Empire "felt bad" for anyone. In fact the Brits were ready to sacrifice thousands of Indian, African and Arab lives if it meant saving just one British life.

This especially goes for Churchill.

The british were ready to exploit and sacrifice colonials, but then did apologize and express how regretful they are. There was this image of feeling bad about it.
The commies had the same, we have to kill all the tzarist nationalist generals, we have to send all these dissidents to labor camps, but we feel bad about it, our hearts bleed, etc.
Contrast with nazis, where this was celebrated, not seen as a necessary evil, but as a glorious evil.
This is also why nazis are more hated than commies or imperialists.

Wasn't Gandhi, at the same time as Mosley, talking about a joint Indian-British empire, and an increased influence and prestige of India?

>By 1922 there were no more worker-run factories thanks to fascists.

Good, they had lead the italy economy into the trash

Gandhi also flirted with fascism as he wanted to preserve india's cultural heritage and ethnic constitution.

One thing about fascism it's that it always has a national identity to preserve.

¿Cómo afecta esto al pueblo Mapuche?

Unity in the state is crucial in fascism. Also you are obviously a marxist so I can expect you don't make any positive remarks of italy fascism.

Apologize to who? Gandhi, who they imprisoned multiple times? Bengals who perished in 1943 famine?

And even if they did, what would that change? Nothing. If anything it would only confirm hypocrisy and double standards they held. People who suffer have nothing of words and promises
>The commies had the same, we have to kill all the tzarist nationalist generals, we have to send all these dissidents to labor camps, but we feel bad about it, our hearts bleed, etc.
...which obviously never happened. If you informed yourself instead of spouting bullshit like a retard you'd knew that communists villanized their opponents mercilessly, monarchists, land-owners, fascists, et cetera. And why should they? They're their mortal ideological enemies.
>Contrast with nazis, where this was celebrated, not seen as a necessary evil, but as a glorious evil.
>This is also why nazis are more hated than commies or imperialists.
No it's because nazis are glorified thugs and bumbling retards who never understood how diplomacy works. This is why they lost, it's like a manlet kid in school yard who constantly picks fights on everyone and then gets his ass kicked.

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Not a marxist, just stating obvious facts. Fascist Italy was a totalitarian shithole which proved its worth on a first harder test besides fighting spear-chucking niggers.

Imagine a world where Mosley and Mussolini stayed and Hitler never rose up. No war, no commies, Fascist States all over the world

Anime needs to be banned.

>Mussolini seizes power in Italy
>Mosley is elected in Britain
>Huey Long doesn't get assassinated and wins the American presidency with Charles Coughlin as his VP
>Hitler never accomplishes anything but keep the KPD disorganized enough to not pose a threat to the liberal democratic parties in Weimar Germany

>tfw this timeline exists and I'll never live in it

>say fascism=capitalism with fangs
>Non Marxist

Hmm.. sorry bu you sounds like one.

Indeed you choose your facts but disregard de rest of facts to fit in your critic, I don't denial the totalitarian nature of fascism, Unity is the key, also I am aware about the military mistakes of Mussolini but this not stain their achievements.

I don't really care how i sound to you. This is what happened, plain and simple. Liberal state got too much it could handle and lost control, so it had to employ literal thugs and bands to force order. Thugs and bands take over retarded liberal state. The end.

Smarter men like Giolitti tried to reason with both sides, but it was futile. Better men like Matteoti paid the price for openly standing up to thugs.
Don't push these propaganda images on me. There wasn't any "unity" in what fascists were trying to impose. They won their power by force and threats.

I'd actually argue that it doesn't seek change, fascism seems to grip a nation/people when they believe their people/nation/faith/race is about to face total annihilation. A reaction I guess to this perceived threat and, like you said, a rebirth or reset to get things back to normal. Its also the reason why I think Fascism isn't built to last, should a nation "save" itself from whatever they thought was a threat by turning to fascism, they ought to have a stage 2 set in place, a system that can work on the long run.

Im just probably rambling of course, being an insomniac and all that

I know I can't change your opinion about fascism, but I see at least you recognize the weakness of the liberal state and lack of cohesion. If you dislike unity in a state maybe you fit better in anarchism.

>Fascist shilling library

damn made me think...

So does modern "Free Market" capitalism, what are tax cuts if not subsidies?

what anime is this

Moseley was barely even fascist tbqh, he was a bit ahead of his time in regards to globalization and the inhumanity of private enterprise though
youtube.com/watch?v=q-PlqqK9B9Y

Vampire Jesus Rapes A Girl And Has A Cool Mech, it's a Sunrise production

>See a fascist talk about fascism
>complain about how he don't attack fascism

Man, It's like every person is shilling their own opinion.

Liberal state is not inherently weak. It is weak when it plunges itself into shit like Italy did. A poor, undeveloped country keen on revanchist nationalism. It's a recipe for disaster, just look at Balkan countries.

Why the girl on the left dancing like Bobby Hill?

The publisher of Mosley's "Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered" is called the Fascism Shilling Library. Google the pdf. I assume it's the earlier meaning of shilling, the currency, but it confounds to humorous effect

my copy is by "Black House Publishing". one must be an imprint of the other

just tell me how much screentime those two have, I don't care about anything else

3 minutes at best

Everything for the State, and nothing else.

why would they waste those tits on completely minor characters?

It's Sunrise? They had a rape scene later and /a/ lost the fucking plot over it