Can we talk about the history of the Organized crime?

dont yall find it weird that there are tv shows about the life and work of Escobar?

The richest, sure, but the most powerful? I don't think so.

the medallin cartel for sure, if you are interested in the mafia I recommend Five Families, the rise decline and resurgence of americas most powerful mafia empires by Selwyn Raab.

>Most powerful criminal organization

First you got to understand that power it is not money

I am going to talk about Brazilian criminal groups

We have three groups:
PCC(by far the strongest, it delegates great power to each member, and as long they pay what they must, they supply all cities with the drugs and weapons they need, unlike Mexican cartels, their members cannot attack police officers unless they are told to, even killing normal people must be approved by a council)

So basically they don´t fight the system, usually bribe to their advantage, number of deaths usually fall where they operate because they only kill when their "tribune" allows it.

However they fought the system once(not going to enter in many details), and basically they managed to stop the biggest city and most relevant state of Brazil...
They basically started doing blitz attack in all institutions, the police and the system did not even knew what to do, so they basically had to make a deal, they basically bend the whole country.

They basically control 90% of Brazil(except for Rio[That is why that shithole is so violent] and North[which is about to change lol]), controls all traffic in Paraguay and to be sure no one know which other countries they operate, but probably a lot in south america.

Mexicans cartels are strong for sure, but are dumb as fuck in the way they operate, loud and dumb that is what they are.

While in Brazil, PCC is in every field of the institution elects politicians to do their shady shit.
Killing actually becomes harder for drug dealers as they must ask for permission(of course this rule only plays out when you want to kill someone who knows people or at least lives in a area which they sell drugs, as everyday police is there less money will be made).

They are basically a invisible hand, killing where they must, electing people, treating people.
There are very few people who actually go against them

Thanks for your valuable input Chomsky

>Most powerful criminal organization?
>>CIA
>Thanks for your valuable input Chomsky

Noriega ran a country while being a drug lord and CIA asset so him.

So how comes Baja California is the only cartel-free part of Mexico?

North Korea right now

It is both poor and not on the way to the USA.

The war on drugs funds the cartels, they can't operate in places where they aren't getting that subsidy.

Idk if it counts but the pirate republic of Nassau was pretty cool
Not all that powerful though

Delusional

That pic is bullshit.

Written by a jew? Surely there will be no lies or false representation.

Then which one was more powerful? Thoses fuckers went deep into politics, that's something rather impressive for a drug-selling organization.

Ndrangheta.

Theres is no such thing as most powerful organization. They are all in business together and do things so the business can thrive together even if they are enemies. Escobar is rumored to have not existed but an image that was sold to increase terror. He represents the old farmers interests. Those that were most affected by the Farc: the old money. The large landowners, farmers and cattle ranchers. They needed to raise funds to move a high % of their families out of Colombia and into USA and Europe. They came from all over Colombia and were hated because they were the white 'aristocracy' alongside their darker cousins. And the reason for that is that they are descended from the 'white' women whom were raped by the incoming guerrillas from the Jungles including those of brazil, peru, ecuador and venezuela. And due to religious piety they did not abort. Sounds racist or sickening but thats history. They are long gone living under different names and cultures. They split from the Cali cartel because Cali decided to sell out Colombian interests to avoid jail or forfeiture. To any country. So Cali had more international 'power'. You must understand history as to why or how they split organized crime. There was a surplus of land with vacant ownership due to USA having forced educated and skilled laborers out of their homes. For its own infastructure. They left no will or heirs. Couldnt go back. Adverse possession. Illegal immigrants moved in due to history and legends of open gold mines in the regions.

In the US the most powerful are Mexican Cartel groups. When it comes to law. The US gives them leeway to operate money laundering businesses and fronts for the transportation of smuggled goods. They operate a lot smarter than many think. Those weapons and money you see are usually found in their "hunting lodges." One famous leader was said to be an entertainment promoter. He travelled around US picking up money including surcharges (money to be used towards illegal business). The problem in mexico is that they use images of poor farmers they pay off or otherwise are to be killed for knowing too much. The real peoples family usually file defamation. So the cases are media censored. They are said to be rich and famous.

Its just who has the most successful business plan. You have to know history. Nothing happens for nothing. To know organized crime in americas you have to know its history same in russia and japan.

>Escobar is rumored to not have existed
Kek

It depends on what you mean by "most powerful". Income? Political power? Street muscle? Capone's mafia (Chicago Outfit) may have been more famous under his direction but it didn't reach its peak until the early-mid 60s, in terms of political connections and money they probably became the most powerful oc group in the U.S at that time.

In US you have the Dixie Mafia, Italian-American Mafia, Italian Mafia, Cuban Mafia, Mexican Mafia, Colombian Mafia, Irish Mafia, English Mafia, Scottish Mafia, Spanish and Portuguese Mafia. *Mafia connoting organized crime and ethnic group. Some are several hundred years old. Some have even risen others. Example: Irish and Scottish Mafia (started as pirating) originating within the Colombian gold enterprise. If you know your history right prior to the revolutionary wars they'd deflate the value of gold. During one revolution gold dropped to $5 an ounce (adjusted). Gave colonials ground over Europe. However it left many functional mines (no purpose if its too cheap) and those became exploited by illegal migrants. Spanish and Portuguese Mafia made the Italian-American mafia. If you go back a century or so everyone spoke latin and therefore knew the italian tongue. Mexican Mafia was the jurisdiction of the the old dixie mafia. Think bible belt and spanish christian zeal.
Samething happens in China and Japan where people break up into tribe and region borne out of regional conflicts and old kingdoms and ethnicities. Russia you have the cossacks, caucasian and the asians trying to control moscow...

Cartels got pull in the southwest but their main racket is supplying gangs with coke.

Cartel is an illegal stock market. There are or in theory should be just several. Too many deregulate the system. Organizations built around it with their own network. Business is business mentality. Many of the cartels (organized crime stock market) started within foods wholesale markets, as have many 'terrorist' groups. coca, opium, marijuana are agricultural produce. The point of a Cartel is to establish going rates for anything illicit.

In theory no one "works" for a cartel. Everyone keeps clean with their own job. Not even the farmers work for a cartel. However a cartel establishes a going rate regional or international.

This is where networks and organizations come in. Gangs are what 'control' the streets they are primarily there to enforce demographics.

Networks are important lets say at the most bottom point you can only buy (wholesale) by the tonnage, $1m of weapons, 20 cubic yards, barrel, . Whatever. You cant buy something alone it needs to be a whole bunch of people otherwise its redflagged, too large a transaction. According to what ive read. From there it is split for retail. with all logic if cartel exists it means its a war ravaged country. Mexico cant have a cartel. Just a franchise. Or else the US gets pissed. Some east european countries have or had real cartels.

Btw Weapons are usually stolen by the victor in the battlefield and sold. Saying your country houses a cartel is a political threat. They can sanction it (or as i say sanctify it) embargo it...most money is made in retail sale. Chinese have a very expanding network. People been trying to hold them back but they are too industrious. The fashion mafia in italy and france had historically waged wars.

The key word - organized. Its impossible to do serious job without support of state - native or foreign.
Natural limit - car stealers or maniacs. All above - product of secrete police or intellegence.
Mafia in Japan and most of mafia in USA are native. All other are British (including some anti-white racists in USA).

>Dixie Mafia
Literal Hollywood bullshit, might as well list the Juggalos too.

Cartels as they are called now are largely dtos that evolved from smaller organizations during the cocaine boom, with the possible exception being the gulf cartel which traces it's origin to the 50s.

I love that we get such nutjobs on the chans. It's fascinating.

Did you just get done reading dope inc.?

OP asked about mafia (organized crime). I answered that it dealed with superpowers and its useless to view Escobar without his links with British intelligence and its struggle against influence of USA in Latin America.

At its prime the most powerful one is Russian. In terms of fire power and mobility. Once DNA came out and done on American all hell broke loose in international politics. It seems as if the US had harbored all Russians. And Russians in Russia were just caucasians and north western asians. Cartel is powerful legally. Coca plant is the first genetically modified biological...it has patent. And its a religious plant. So its political.

Its useless to view escobar without knowing american history. He was a paid actor by the cia to mock the granchildren of a supposed Escobar y Guerrero. A parody. Who was acknowledged as being the single biggest land holding family in the americas.

The majority of the family were kicked out of mexico and andes by early 1900s settled in USA. The mexican or messican revolts (mestizo) and the topa (topple) yupanqui (north yankee; bread is here). Basques have historically sided with the british. It because of them latin america became independent.

They were too racists didnt like natives or blacks. Nor spaniards. Just english and irish. And operated more like feudal lords than anything.

>Who was the more powerful organization at it's prime?
CIA and friends

And if you ask a historian george washington could have been an Escobar himself. Escob (sweeping;cleaning) ar (settlement). Washing (cleaning) ton (settlement). Washington cut down his father genealogical tree to start america as a solely english speaking settlement.

Serious question: are you schizophrenic?

Yes. Latin American history is simple. Britain became strongest super-power in 1815 - it fucked France, so got free hands to seize Spanish colonies in Americas.
All new "independent" states were initially British semi-colonies. Most of anti-spanish coups were organized by British spies or even clear mercenaries (Bolivar, O'Higgins and other shit).
So USA was allien here was gradually working against British empire during 19-21 centuries. Most obvious example - Chile. British land. First pro-US president - Balmaseda. Then series of coups (UK-US-UK-US...). All leftists - pro-British.
Colombia was under so strong British influence that USA couldnt sign Panama channel agreement, had to invade and create new state.

No I just heard that the person they killed was a drunk man trying to get home after having lost keys the night before. They thought he was a thief.

The neighbor not knowing who he was shot him in the stomach/chest as he turned around and in the legs. Then he realized who it was. As for the head no one knows who shot him in the head. It might have been done later by the military to make it seem dramatic.

The world's biggest mafia is the US government.

Damn right they are the only ones who give out children of 'criminals' who have died on death row or victims of the dea to custodial parents and families...to act like legit families. Except they are to be sent to death as well. For being the ones that damaged their kind. Some of the parents are said to feel bad for these children and trade them off to peoples in other countries for $$$. Mexicans were known to buy them to establish partnerships with their biological family extensions in other regions. They said hundreds of thousands of latinos died death penalty states didnt report to the fed...

Black people have it made. Thats all.

There were a lot of thai, vietnamese, bolivian, chilean, korean, russian, peruvian, colombians and mexican kids in circulation under these clandestine programs. According to mob rumors. Their parents used to get death penalty for heroin and cocaine. The US had just gotten out of vietnam and these people didnt care about killing children. One of my buddies whose parents were criminals always tells me the story of some bolivian kids being traded to mexicans to raise. Due to death penalty. The mexicans in exchange were given some $$$. And one of the local orphans was given to the bolivian extension. safeguard.

One mafia urban legend is that one of the top groups perfected dna altering just so the children wouldnt feel left out. As well as clone the parents just incase they died. Send them a new one with same memories so as not to torment their emotions.