Why is Hitler generally seen as more evil than the other 2 dictators even though he didn't kill the most people?

>Mao clearly thought he was doing the right thing

>Falling for the Kantian ethics meme

>whitewashing

Hitler
30 millions of Slavs + 5 millions of Jews + 10 millions of Germans + others > 5.5 millions
Study the Math

Worse PR firm. Plus, suicide. Plus, lost. Plus, Jews.

Vodka is empty calories tho

>how can famines be real if our food aren't real?

It's simple.
Jews are important in Western society.
Ukranians, Tatars, Russian dissidents, and Chinese aren't. When the relatives of gulag survivors don't run your entertainment industry there isn't much pressure to pump out film adaptations of the Gulag Archipelago.

>inb4 I get told to go back to /pol/ for pointing out the obvious
OP asked the question, I just gave him the correct answer he was looking for.

nazis were brutal against everyone who wasn't them
communists shat on everyone equally

>Brainlet egalitarians are so obsessed with people being treated equally they give the moral high-ground to indiscriminate mass-murder.

Hitler lost while Stalin turned Russia into a global superpower
Mao unified China, modernized it and turned it into a great power respected today.
Victors write the history.

Pic related is worse, you brainlet and there was no soviet plan to commit indiscriminate mass-murder of groups of people.

The western intellectual class has a strong internal strain of sympathy for Stalin and Mao's ideology

this i cannot accept as an explanation. Stalin and his successors were not exactly known for their philo-semitism.

>way_of_the_closed_fist.jpeg

This right here. The reason Communist symbols are acceptable and fascists ones aren't is because modern Leftists differ from Stalin and Mao not by kind but by degree, so they ignore and sympathize with all his shit.

This is why even in commie-hating America, if you wore a hammer and sickle and someone made a scene of calling you a communist, he'd be the one escorted out or arrested, whereas if you wore a swastika you'd likely outright get your ass kicked.

The Communists were ten times worse then the Nazis, yet because the western 'social democracies' sympathize with them, they get a pass for killing easily ten times as many people as the fascists did.

tell that to the kulaks.

So 6,000,000 Ukrainians did not starve to death because the communists killed all the kulaks.

Good to know.

I disagree that they differ in any meaningful way.

Well, it's hard to argue that economic redistributivism sounds as ill-intended as racial purity. Like it or not, one is always going to more palatable even if both wield an incredible appetite for political violence.

The estimates for holodonor is about 2-3millions, not 6. Not that it makes it somehow better.

Communists and kikes control all western educational institutions so they shit on the nazis more than on the gommunists

because he didn't like jews and jews run the media today

fucking idiot

In the former Soviet Union millions of men, women and children fell victims to the cruel actions and policies of the totalitarian regime. The Great Famine of 1932–1933 in Ukraine (Holodomor), took from 7 million to 10 million innocent lives and became a national tragedy for the Ukrainian people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Yeah I can see your point, I don't think it's controversial really anymore to say that much of the world's major media outlets were owned by Jewish people. Common sense will tell you they have an interest in inflating the body count as much as possible.

He carried only three relatively small anti-Semitic campaigns, and throughout his rule Jews were overrepresented in the positions of power and underrepresented among victims of repressions. Under Stalin, out of 7 chiefs of GULAG, 4 (Eichmans, Kogan, Berman and Pliner) were Jewish. The first director of NKVD was also a Jew.

It's also important to note that the Jews were one of the chief engineers of the genocides carried out under Stalin. Kaganovich played a key role in the genocide of Ukrainians, while Goloshchyokin played a key role in the genocide of Kazakhs.

>Hitler
>5.5 million
>civilians deaths in USSR alone more than 20 million during ww2 + 3 millions of pows and 4 mill military

Because he killed people for a worse motive than the other two

>communist killed way more people with retarded economics but that doesn't count because they weren't evil, just bumbling retards.
How is this better?

Not saying it is, it's just how society sees it.

jews in charge of popular culture

WE

Just once I want a scumbag like you to respond with "oh, I didn't know that. Thanks." when you get caught talking out your ass. Just once.

Pic-related never actually happened.
If you're going to pull out General-Plan Ost to support your thesis, then I shall pull out the inevitable multiple megadeath level famines and purges that would occur if Communism was implemented on a global scale, to support mine.

oh, I didn't know that. thanks

>Well, it's hard to argue that economic redistributivism sounds as ill-intended as racial purity.
The only reason you think that is because you're not imagining yourself as one of the people having their wealth redistributed.

Because we judge how evil they were based on what they did, how they did it, and why, generally not how many they killed. It's not the fucking genocide Olympics.

but what about all this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Anti-Zionism

Nuremberg. Since Germany lost, they had their trial, and all the evidence was laid bare. Good luck today, even after the fall of the USSR, getting access to Soviet records regarding their totalitarian crimes.

>the Jews were one of the chief engineers of the genocides carried out under Stalin
>two Jewish guys means "The jews" were responsible
And I'll bet you howl like a wounded dog when feminists blame all men for rape

>modernized it and turned it into a great power respected today.
No he didn't. China didn't start becoming what it is today until dengs reforms.

> Kaganovich played a key role in the genocide of Ukrainians, while Goloshchyokin played a key role in the genocide of Kazakhs.
>"""Genocide"""
there is absolutely NO historiographic evidence for any "holodomor" in terms of deliberate genocidal intent. Nobody denies that there was a severe famine in Ukraine in 1932-33 that cost millions of human lives. Funny thing is, there were at this time famines in other parts of the Soviet Union as well (but they conveniently don't get much mention by the revisionists who cry holodomor all the time).

And why did this man-made famine happen? Because of the forced collectivization and de-kulakization that the Soviet government did in its attempt to wrest away power from land owners (who were disowned, had their property and grain seized, and sent en masse to gulags and worked to death). The key here, though, is that this was not limited to one particular ethnicity and therefore cannot be deemed as a genocide of the Ukrainians in particular.

But let's just for the sake of argument go with the crazy idea that this (collectivization, de-kulakization) was indeed a plan to genocide none other than the Ukrainian people. If so, last time I checked, the key figures involved in, and tasked, with undertaking "the holodomor" were Vyacheslav Molotov, Lazar Kaganovitch, Pavel Postyshev, Stanislav Kosior and Vlas Chubar. And now guess their ethnicities. Kaganovich is the only Jew, everyone else isn't. Therefore, the majority of those that were responsible for any holodomor would be non-Jews. But that doesn't fit all too well into the revisionist narrative, does it?

>The Great Famine of 1932–1933 in Ukraine (Holodomor), took from 7 million to 10 million

general census of the population
Ukraine
1926 29,018,187
1937 28,387,609

>Why is Hitler generally seen as more evil
He's not, really, they're all despised.

Also, the numbers in your pic are wrong.

Nice meme

>we judge how evil they were based on how much energy pop-culture devotes to arranging periodic Two Minute Hates to their memory
ftfy

You have to take into account the natural population growth rate you turboautist tankie neckbeard

>283,000

You'd need 1932 and 1933 numbers, sweetie.

You sound like a Holocaust denier.

don't feed him...

Not an argument.

>muh feelings

Hitler is a loser. He lost.
Stalin and Mao however were winners so you can't sneeze at that.

No, just an observation.
:3

Well he started a war that ravaged europe and the people that got directly or indirectly killed because of him were mainly jews and europeans which also own the biggest propaganda machine in the world called hollywood.

*tips fedora*

>he started a war

Source?

Pretty much this. You don't see university courses teaching Nazi propaganda, unlike the other way around. Universities have been the hiding places for marxists and other far leftists for decades. They fled there after communism was universally reviled after the red scare and the revealing of Stalin's crimes in the 50's. Also conveient that their pupils in the 60's ended up being far leftist radicals as well and although ended up being neo-liberal shills later in life they still hold elite positions within our society and promote radical progressive agendas.

Simple. One's ideology was killing all inferior races. The other was based on "deception" of false fairness and theft.

Hmm... I wonder which one is worse analyzing the attempts.

Here you go, bud
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland

>there is absolutely NO historiographic evidence for any "holodomor"
Wrong.

>(collectivization, de-kulakization) was indeed a plan to genocide
You're mixing up different events.

I am too high to start this long flame war again but you are wrong

Well quite frankly, why you kill has a little more bearing over how many you killed.

He's not wrong though.
>high
dude lmao

you took the tankie pill, comrade

>Invade a neutral country that has its independence guaranteed after repeatedly being warned not to
>Be surprised when the people who were allied with the country you invaded declare war on you
>Lol no we didn't start the war xD

I'm no tankie.

>"punch my friend and I'll punch you back"
>*punches Poland anyway*
Wow, how dare those war-thirsty Brits actually follow through on their agreement to go to war to protect Poland if Germany invaded.

The G*rms knew what would happen, but they did it anyway. Next, I expect you'll tell me how union troops being in fort sumter was actually a declaration of war against the confederacy, despite the fort being federal land.

>*takes another deep hit*
>Besides...
>*exhales*
>the WWII never even happened, it was all faked

The Nazis had no interest in killing "all inferior races", their goal was simply the advancement of the German race and the attainment of their "natural" position as Masters of the world. The Nazis genuinely believed they were doing the "inferior races" of the world a favor by eradicating the Jews and placing themselves at the head of the table, much like how a stray dog benefits from deworming and being placed in the home of a benevolent owner.

>the Nazis believed they were doing Slavs and Gypsies a favour
Yeah, no.

>4 Pests Campaign

Was there contemporary skepticism of this campaign? Did a well known academic or ecologist in the world publicly guess what would happen and call Mao a retard?

>le kulaks deserve it

Hmm... yeah totally not a tankie argument, germanophobe user

You realize there are more people in this world than Slavs and Gypsies right?

Simple modelling not accounting migration shows

if natural growth of population was
a) 5% per 5 years (optimistic) then max number of famine victims was ~3.4 millions
b) 3% per 5 years then max number of famine victims was ~2.3 millions

>it's not genocide when your kill your own people.

Brilliant!

What? I never said that all the Jews were responsible for Holodomor, that would be ridiculous, I'm merely said that some of the people who engineered these genocide were Jewish. God, you are so politically correct it hurts.

Holodomor deniers are always told that they sound like Holocaust deniers, but Holocaust deniers are never told that they sound like Holodomor deniers. I wonder why..

>It's also important to note that the Jews were one of the chief engineers of the genocides carried out under Stalin.
>the Jews
That is literally what you wrote. Don't get mad at me for 'misquoting' you when I'm directly quoting your post.

You forgot Bengal genocide deniers.

>"punch my friend and I'll punch you back"
>Doesn't actually punch back and then just watches Germany and USSR beat the shit out of and then sodomize Poland
>When he finally decides to "punch back", doesn't even have the balls to declare war on the USSR which also attacked his "ally"
Okay Bong

Stop and think about how many the krauts would've killed if they had won.

There's your answer.

Stalin saved Russia.

>Himmler
>white

He represented a true (albeit as widely bloody as communism) struggle against globalism and a pre-destined global hegemony, passing from Britain to the United States.

I actually talked to a WWII vet who claimed to have never heard anything about the Holocaust when in Germany or after returning home, until the late 60's-early 70's. I honestly think Hitler's crimes are a flash in the pan, of those murderous times, and that they're purposefully distorted for their interruption to another century of perfidious hegemony.

Which is fucking easy because most people are poor.

Let me guess, you're one of those posters who attack Britain and France's """hypocrisy""" for not declaring a war against both Germany and Russia, despite the fact that they could never win that war. Also, you might recall that, after the war, Britain along with the US and the remaining western powers did fight Russia, indirectly.

This whole thread is about who is perceived more evil, opposed to more autistic.
Which for most people is hitler, because he wanted the systematic genocide of a whole ethnic group.

jews own the media and hollywood and can convince people they suffered more by making movies/headlines.
>mfw it actually works

Well he's right, even if backpedaling. Juden were behind communist crimes. Based Stalin that only got to real power in mid 30s removed them during 1937-38 Great Purge from government and NKVD positions and now everybody pretend said purge was going for 70 soviet years and was against soviet people and muh 25 or 30 or 50 or 100 gorillions nevar forget.

It's highly debatable whether Stalin did kill more people than Hitler, Stalin's death count (while still millions and millions) was overexaggerated in the West during the Cold War. Who actually killed more also depends exactly what you blame each of them for.

Here's an interesting article on the subject.

nybooks.com/articles/2011/03/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/