Is prostitution inevitable in every culture and society, or can it really be eliminated like feminists want it to?

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Consider that through analyzing mitochondria and Y-Chromosome genetic variance we have deduced that twice as many women reproduced historically as men. For example, while we don't know exactly what percent of women reproduced, we can deduce that if 80% of all women born had offspring, only 40% of men did, if 90% of women did then 45% of men did, etc.

Another way of saying this is that, in the first case, 40% of men (The Chad-Bourgeois) had reproductive access to 80% of the women. The advent of monogamous marriage inherent to Christianity can be seen as a driving factor for its spread, as Christianity enforced some reproductive parity enabling the lower 60% of men (The Virgin-Proles) to have some access to women, in comparison to pagan societies which tolerated or expected men to have a harem of women which necessitates some men having no access to women at all. This harem relationship was a very good deal for the Chad-Bourgeois as it spread their genes far and wide, and it was a good deal for women as well as it enabled shared access to only the best male genes. But alas, as Marx writes the concentration of wealth inevitably leads to societal upheaval as the masses become more and more impoverished, so to does the concentration of pussy necessitate demands for monogamy by the Virgin-Proles. Fearing the loss of their economic status, the Chad-Bourgeois conceded monogamy.

But monogamy alone was not enough to enforce reproductive parity, as many women did not view the Virgin-Proletariat as marriageable material, as they could acquire more resources by becoming the mistresses of the Chad-Bourgeois, or, to the main point, prostitutes of the Virgin-Proletariat.

Not him, but to me, licensing implies there's a system in place for the profession, so mandatory STD checks, healthcare, etc. Also a employer/employee appraisal system so they can root out the shitty people on either end.

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Prostitution was always looked down on because of religious mores, but it was largely tolerated by the Chad-Bourgeois because it enabled the Virgin-Proletariat access to a select few pussies, thus satiating desire to overthrow the Chad-Bourgeois in the proverbial "Beta Uprising".

Everything changed when women gained the right to vote. With access to political power, women had a new reproductive strategy: using the machinery of the state to extract resources from the Virgin-Proletariat while still mating exclusively with the Chad-Bourgeois. They did this in two ways:

1. Direct wealth transfers from the Virgin-Proletariat in the form of welfare payments, such as those made to single mothers- single motherhood largely being the result of women mating with the Chad-Bourgeois and then being abandoned by them. (Women receive far more welfare than men, and pay into the tax system far less over the course of a lifetime.
2. The outlaw of the little reproductive access that remained for the Virgin-Proletariat. This was accomplished by legalizing divorce and compelling men to pay child support and alimony, as well as outlawing prostitution.

The outlaw of prostitution creates a pussy cartel, and is in women's collective interest because it enables monopoly prices on pussy. Or in other words, it compels the Virgin-Proletariat to pay exorbitant rates in both material and emotional labor to acquire both hook-ups and girlfriends in comparison to what they would have expended had prostitution been legal.

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In fact, the outlaw of prostitution is so lucrative for women that it even works in the favor of prostitutes themselves, who can command greater profits because of the risk of their profession. In some countries (invariably the same countries with the highest rates of women in government, welfare, transfer payments from men to women in divorce, etc.) the result of women's suffrage has gone so far in this effect that governments are considering legalizing selling prostitution while keeping buying prostitution criminalized, and thus we reach the zenith of power for the entire class of women over the Virgin-Proletariat.

Thus we see that history trends towards reproductive parity for the Virgin-Proletariat until women have access to political power, in which the reverse happens: reproductive access is increasingly concentrated in fewer and fewer penises of Chad-Bourgeois- similar to Marx's theory of capital accumulation into fewer and fewer hands of the Bourgeois, thus making many former Bourgeois into proletarians, so we will see that with the advent of social media and "hook-up" apps to help, the range of the Chad-Bourgeois will become slimmer and slimmer as more great masses are Virgin-Proletarianized.

The future, then, is inevitable. We will see in the short run less reproductive success for a majority of men, to the benefit of the Chad-Bourgeois and their harems of politically empowered women. But as the masses of men become conscious of their position in the sexual hierarchy, they will grow resentful, and with their ever increasing numbers they will soon grow powerful enough to sweep away the Chad-Bourgeois in the frenzied "Beta-Uprising", after-which women will be stripped of political power, and reproductive parity will be enforced by decree.

One step closer to have more rights for themselves

This would also allow prostitutes to seek help if they are hurt by clients and would eliminate the shadiness and crime of pimps and the like.

As long as lazy women and horny men exists.

So they won't run by some shitty gang, pay tax, regular healthcare, all equals to better service

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this. More explicit power to women and destroying men's fantasy of being dominant. It is healthier for everybody.

also, old women, official whores or not, should have a bunch or suppliers like they had in their twenties.
Men must also wear condoms at all times, unless they can pay a hefty fee to the woman.

If there is any consequence that deemed bad by the woman, like an STD or a pregnancy, or the woman feels threaten in anyway, the man will be held responsible if the woman accuses him. the punishment is being forbidden to give money to women so that he is selected to fuck them.

Men also must be rated on a public record of their performance. Less taxes for men who provide a good time to the women who pay.
ANy man who fails to provide orgasms to paid women will have a bad rating.
After a few bad ratings, the man will be required to attend a course on female sexuality created by women.

also, old women, official whores or not, should have a bunch or suppliers like they had in their twenties.
Men must also wear condoms at all times, unless they can pay a hefty fee to the woman.

If there is any consequence that deemed bad by the woman, like an STD or a pregnancy, or the woman feels threaten in anyway, the man will be held responsible if the woman accuses him. the punishment is being forbidden to give money to women so that he is selected to fuck them.

Men also must be rated on a public record of their performance. Less taxes for men who provide a good time to the women
ANy man who fails to provide orgasms to women paid or not will have a bad rating.
After a few bad ratings, the man will be required to attend a course on female sexuality created by women.

this is the kind of world that betas who like femdom jerk off to

Bravo

Great read. But a beta uprising, in those days? Men have to much peoblems admiting being betas to themselves, much less to the rest of society.
For a beta uprising to happen most men would have to confess being unable to get women to the face of the world, wich seem very unlikely with all the potential shaming a man doing that would call upon himslef.

women can freely hire gigolos and any bad consequence will be on the gigolos and never on women

also, any man must be screened for STDs, paid by taxes from men not women, this is not required for women whores or not

>>lol who cares, if you don't like it ignore it.
if I do not like it, how do I ignore it?

Spectacular post, really made me rethink how bizarre our marriage and love system, sth I simply accept for my entire life, a better view than those feminist article and made me wonder why no philosopher never touched the love affairs

Ugh, I didn't mean there's no philosopher ever touched it but really brief, they most likely talk about politics and government rather than love, the thing we really can talk usually coming from psychologist socialist

>tfw sex positive feminist and often clash with anti-sex work feminists

by not being a triggered beta.

>sex positive feminist
So a slutty whore.

Why do we find lingerie desirable?

No, it's our natural instinct to eventually want to have sex if we have no other options for distractions/entertainment

Because we're beasts in human clothing

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Made me wonder the origin of prostitution, prostitution only occurs in big city with huge resources shipping in, like London, Paris, Tokyo, small town may not even have a prostitute, as the most common sense, any kind of capital is fill with hookers, capital attracts money, money get hooker in.

If we view love affairs biologically, like
>Consider that through analyzing mitochondria and Y-Chromosome genetic variance we have deduced that twice as many women reproduced historically as men.

Prostitution should be considered a failure of sexual distribution since we let some pussy un-use and didn't maximize the birth rate but we all know prostitution is a sex relief not some mating shit but the existence of prostitution is a weird phenomenon when we have to bring in the fight between alpha and beta because hooker is a merchandise, you can enjoy it if you have the money.

So we may come to a point is if we really want every man at least have a woman, we should ban prostitution but you may say there're loads of people are trying to marry a dancer/pornstar/hooker etc but being a sexual worker will always lower your value in the mating market, so you may see the most common cases are pornstar marry another pornstar, only some lucky ones will become a sextoy for the rich people and rarely marry to a middle class. By banning prostitution then we can put all women in the same ground.

>cont.
However bringing in mistress may I will consider unwise in the case of prostitution since mistress is already owned by someone, they may or may not have any child yet with their original spouse but the ownership is confirmed by law, expending her gene pool is safer for women, relying on a single gene is rather dangerous for the next generation, it's a common practice all over animal kingdom.

However, the modern monogamy is gone too far, we can see cheating in older days as an act of real love since they are all having political marriage but cheating in modern days is totally unacceptable so the modern marriage is becoming a serial monogamy.

Serial monogamy probably is the perfect method for modern women, it's clearly a S&L method by burning man's fortune and they just don't give a shit about it. So I don't think being a mistress of alpha = prostitute of beta. Their drive are rather different.

Under the perfect S&L method, women is winning, they get the seed and money on both alpha and beta then just kick them away, they are real mantis, so alpha isn't slimming by the rise of beta, beta can't beat alpha, the evil is in the vagina and you can see the snowball is bigger.

All the sad men is going to pay for sex in Pattaya or Tokyo and women will demonize men for doing this, they have the right to do so since they are at the top of food chain. This really makes me think of the mice utopia. So back to op, prostitution for men will not end but only more.

>Forget to say
My concern is how women are going to cope with faggots, gay marriage almost non exist in history, they exist more in the modern sense of bromance, they got wife but still fucking each other so how will rising number of homos gonna deal with women.

The modern gay couple had that kind of mindset they can build a family just like a normal couple which is huge threat for women not because they are not interested in women but the surrogate mother, it is most degenerate idea on using a pussy, it's literally "breed me a kid and leave", shit but oh well women are wiling to do this for money.

And I'm wondering did MGTOW have a thing on the rising number of faggots, pic related.

You are completely ignoring the invention of very reliable birth control methods. Due to the birth control pills women now, for the first time in history, can have Sex just for the sake of having Sex. This used to be a pure man-thing: When a man and a woman had Sex, the woman might have ended up pregnant, while the Man had zero consequences. All gender roles are based on this fact.

This fact though does no longer apply due to birth control. And this results in women willingly having Sex with plenty of guys. In fact what can be observed is a reversion of the gender role: While women go out to hook up with as many hot guys as they can, men sit at home waiting for and dreaming of "Mrs. Perfect", not wanting to hook up with any woman that doesn't meet their very high standards. So while women are turning into "Samantha Joneses" (character from Sex and the City), men are turning into "Ted Mosbys" (character from How I Met Your Mother).

This is pretty interesting. You would assume that men would be happy that women are turning into whores, since they now have easy access to Sex. But they are not. It is pretty interesting that a rise in the supply of pussy due to birth control actually leads to a shrinking demand for it.

> It's misogynistic
> Woman should be allowed to do what they want
They will fucking eat each other

If you can't stop it in islamic states where the penalty for it is death, you can't stop it anywhere.

>Prostitution should be considered a failure of sexual distribution since we let some pussy un-use and didn't maximize the birth rate
That's kinda irrelevant in a world of 7 billion and rising.

For some reason partial nudity is better than full nudity.
I guess because expectation is better than reality.

Because then you can have them slowly take it off.

Because it makes the body look like it has nicer shapes than it actually does.

This guy knows.

sauce on pic?

Well thought out post, but why do the still primitive Hunter-gatherer societies we observe in remote corners of the world practice marriage and monogamy? Unlike apes, the harem is a very rarely found in humanity and is only possible if there is already a complex social structure in place.

Where there is demand, there is supply.

-t. Prostitute.

there is nothing more socially constructed than a harem. Plus a harem does not work well if the man desires that women stopped choosing to be entertained by other

progressives like to view everything in terms of "work".
They view ordinary household management as work
Being pregnant and bearing children is work
They change the socially accepted term for prostitution to "sex work"
It all comes down to the idea of "emotional labour", specifically relating to women. So unnatached and far away from the animal reality of humanity, these very human and unquantifiable functions are converted to simple "work" by which they should be paid in some form. It's depraved

You guys are misunderstanding the role of sex in human society. If sex actually did evolve solely for the purpose of maximizing reproduction, why do women ovulate only once per month, instead of daily, like a chicken? Why do they have hidden estrus instead of going into heat to outwardly signal their fertility? Why do men not have penis bones like other primates, which make copulation much quicker and more likely to end in success? These aren't things that evolved later in other animals and humans just missed the boat on-- our evolutionary ancestors would have had these traits, and we evolved out of them. The fact of the matter is that humans didn't evolve to have sex for the purpose of procreation: we evolved to be having recreational sex constantly and despite that, only rarely have children.

the trend is the punish consumers of prostitution and let the workers off the hook

Most feminists I know are not opposed to prostitution. The problem is that prostitution comes often with human trafficking and other related problems. The smart move would be decriminalise prostitution so that actual victims would get help more easily. Legal prostitution could possibly lead to better sex services and legit income for sex workers.

I personally don't care what willing adults do with their money and bodies.

That would be horrible, imagine that going to a brothel is like going to your dentist with a waiting room and all, you have to fill a form etc. Part of what is fun about prostitutes is that is forbidden and taboo, the seedy bars and dark alleys, shady motels and driving around with your heart pumping looking for the next one.
I imagine some gays most feel this way when they look at an atm with a rainbow flag or a mcdonalds pride tweet. They probably miss fucking each other in the bathroom of a subway station and all that dirty shit.

Would socialized prostitution eliminate rape outside of pedophiles?

date rape is still the most common form of rape

Friendly reminder that pedophiles (technically MAPs, as the data includes both pedophiles and hebephiles) are statistically underrepresented among convicted child molesters at ~17% compared to ~22% in the general population.

It's to hide their fertile period, so they can give some sex to the beta provider for resources, then get impregnated chad superior seed, and make the beta provider raise her child.

>So they won't run by some shitty gang

The only reason pimps exist is because prostitution is illegal.

If only for this reason they should legalize the shit out of it.

Pimps would still exist if it was unregulated.

Harem aren't social constructed, it's just a manifestation of biological imperative in different situation.

To have a harem you need a large surplus of resources, to attract a lot of wives. In the case of hunter gatherer tribes, the resources are more equally distributed, and the richest hunter is only slightly wealthier than his counter part. In this case, men are all pretty much equal in term of sexual and partnership value in the eyes of women.

Harem only appear with the rise of agriculture, early urbanisation, and specialisation. It has been shown that a minority of men were able to reproduce with the majority of women. This can be explained by the great production output that a single farmer, or village can create in contrast to hunter gatherer. As the standard of living in the village increased, the womenfolk tend to gravitate toward the village, and marrying the chad farmer who has enough food to support multiple wives and offspring, leaving behind the virgin hunter who has to now gather nuts by himself, because all the women have left him.

This emigration of women towards centre of wealth can be observed in place like China, where the rapid economic growth of the city has attracted all the rural women, and leaving the village full of 30 yo wizards.

This. Prostitutes don't just turn to pimps because they can't count on cops, they are also often baited onto the market and coerced into staying.

>Pimps would still exist if it was unregulated.

Only in the sense of being a “manager” for the prostitute, he wouldn't be able to compel the woman to do anything anymore then my boss can compel me.

>This emigration of women towards centre of wealth can be observed in place like China, where the rapid economic growth of the city has attracted all the rural women, and leaving the village full of 30 yo wizards.

lol

Not necessarily. Pimps are there to act as the prostitute's manager, and as they are unregulated, are free to be manipulative or abusive to them.

In the bunny ranches of Nevada, men are actually forbidden from having any actual contact with the prostitutes, all of their management is female.

pic unrelated

>they are also often baited onto the market and coerced into staying.

Because prostitution is illegal.

In Canada, where escorting is legal, the women don't need pimps, as they can simply set up a website with pics and pricing (even links to local hourly motels) and are protected by law like everybody else.

Pimps aren't necessarily a bad thing. I have enough loyal customers that I could strike off on my own and make more money than I do currently, but I'm willing to give up some potential profit for not having to deal with scheduling, accounting, advertising, all that bullshit.

I used to think periods are a thing for rats tho

I don't care about your """fun""" I really concern about how hookers spread STDs, you can't simply say "good citizen won't got STDs because they never paid for sex", the point of legalization is to make them check themselves regularly and actually we totally can do it, we dumped too many on some stupid guns but simply ignore how AIDS is spreading in our country

Prostitution is unnatural and should be banned along with pornography and other media that shamelesly objectifies women.

Emma Goldman (1869-1940)

To the moralist prostitution does not consist so much in the fact that the woman sells her body, but rather that she sells it out of wedlock.

Why waste your life working for a few shillings a week in a scullery, eighteen hours a day, when a woman could earn a decent wage by selling her body instead?

Behaviours that can be identified as prostitution have been observed amongst penguin, and chimps. So what do you mean unnatural? The idea that anything is unnatural is stupid anyway, we are biological machine, everything that we do is by default natural, even the most bizarre or abject actions.

>prostitution
>in animals

Is there really a payment system, or do you just mean that these animals do swinging/casual sex/open relationships?

>>Behaviours that can be identified as prostitution have been observed amongst penguin, and chimps.
yes, humans love to project their concept on animal behaviors

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