When did Roman Empire actually fell? 476, 1453, 1806 or 1917 AD?

>1917

Tsarist Russia was a Third Rome, which means that Roman Empire fell in 1917.

480, with the death of Julius nepos

>Tsarist Russia was a Third Rome

476

Even as far back as the civil war of the five emperors, the east was culturally becoming its own thing. They were not Romanized in the least.

A Roman empire needs three things: a Republican legacy, a cultural link, and holding the city of Rome itself. No one does this except for Italy.

Define "fell"

The Roman Empire never fell, it has slowly rotted away in the 4-5th century.

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No one's ever going to accept Roman Cockroaches.

>w-we wuz romans n shieeet
kys

The Western Roman Empire fell in 476 AD. The Eastern Roman Empire fell in 1453 AD.

Finland never fell.

If we can't be Romans, no one can!

T. Latin

The Western Roman Empire wasn't Rome. It was the unprofitable, barbarian infested wasteland that the Roman Empire divested itself of in 285, and LARPed around for a couple hundred years before all of the political infrastructure finished rotting away without Roman support.

Couldn't the Holy Roman Catholic Church be considered what's left of the Roman Empire?

t. Greek larper

Republic of Finland is still independent

Let's see.
Emperor, Pontifex Maximus, to Pope, Pontifex Maximus.
Senate to College of Cardinals.
Throne in Rome to Throne in Rome.
Praetorian Guard to Swiss Guard, eventually.
All roads lead to Rome, to Rome, the eternal city
Submit to us or die, to submit to us or die.

Sounds about right.

The what now?

>child molesters to child molesters

You forget this

Good call.

Built vomitoriums, to became a vomitorium.

Turkey is still here user

WE

And Islamic as fuck.

You don't know what a vomitorium is do you

You don't know what the color blue is, do you.

after the fall of the Eastern Roman empire, the Byzantine royal family moved to Moscow and declared it the third Rome. Finland is the only successor state to Tsarist Russia, as the commies didn't take it in the Russian Revolution. Therefore, the Republic of Finland is the only true successor to the Roman empire

No they didn't. Andreas Palaiologos sold his royal title and imperial right to the king of France (and then again to the kings Aragon and Castile because he was poor as fuck). Ivan III was married to Andreas' sister, but that meant nothing. Third Rome was a political concept of Russia fulfilling Byzantium's role as a hegemon and protector to other Orthodox nations, not in any way an official transfer of power.

You know the EU is reconstituting the HRE, yes?

unironically this

>1806
>HOLY

>ROMAN

>empire

Found the reddit

>when did the roman empire actually fell
your terrible grammar aside, you won't get a definitive answer. any argument made that the roman empire lasted beyond 476, no matter how articulate is just met with accusations of being a greek LARPer, any argument made that the roman empire fell before or at 476 is met with a wave of byzanboos posting pictures of justinian.

all in all, this was just a bait thread, especially when you sneakily added the dates where the holy roman empire was dissolved and the ottoman empire was dissolved.

476, then second rome only lasted 2 years.

>Kaiserboo

AAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA

(((fell)))

West Rome=>France=>British=>USA
East Rome=>Ottomans=>Muscovy=>Russia=>USSR=>China

The Eastern Orthodox Church recognized Mehmed II as Holy Roman Emperor and he was related to the Byzantine Emperors.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodora_Kantakouzene_(wife_of_Orhan)

>an organization under military occupation by a heathen foreign power "recognizes" that power at gunpoint

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Roman Empire - Italy
Byzantine - Greece/Turkey
3> - Germany

>Constantinople looks like a 3rd world shithole now
lmao turk niggers can keep the city

But West Rome didn't hold Rome in 476

Such a shame.
Constantinople/Istanbul would've been the Paris (or Rome, lul) of the East had it not fallen to the L*tins or if the Ottofails even bothered to keep the architectural standard up.

Rome fell with Lucius Tarquinius.

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UPVOTED
LE VOLTAIRE AMIRITE XDDDDD
LE SPOOKS Xd

1806 of course

youtube.com/watch?v=dUQWCQKJBsc

>falling for the "Roman Empire" meme

That doesn't matter. Rome's original religion was Pagan. Christianity is just as alien to the ancient Romans as Islam.

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

Used to be the most beautiful city in the world and now it looks like shit... And people think racial superiority doesn't exist.

Apart from the "foreign" part that sounds like most Roman successions desu

The Holy-Roman Empire was built over the structure of a german state, the reason why it should not be considered actually roman. Indeed, the last traces of Ceasars state felt in 1453. (Also, sorry for the bad english).

1453, real answer.

Its not shit

Ceased to exist
Became an ex-empire

1461
everyone forgets that Trapezunt was as much a heir of the Eastern Empire as the Nikaia Empire, and that Trapezunt only fell in 1461.

It's the same reason the HRE isn't considered a continuation of the Roman Empire.

This.

When Caracalla gave everyone citizenship. 212 CE.

/thread

>When Tarquinius Superbus was run out of Rome
FTFY

>waiting until the fall of some etruscan monarch
>not realizing that the whole idea went to shit after Romulus was abducted by aliens

>Holy
>Roman
>Empire

mfw