I want to convert to Orthodoxy but I just can't get on board with the "masturbation is a sin" doctrine. Am I selfish...

I want to convert to Orthodoxy but I just can't get on board with the "masturbation is a sin" doctrine. Am I selfish? Should I just stay an Anglican?
>fagolics and b*ptists stay out

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you should stop believing in fairy tales

it's not clearly stated as such in the bible so I'm sure you could have your personal disagreements

youre an idiot

>implying masturbation is not a sin no matter what denomination you are

you are still objectifying a daughter of God by fantasizing about her and cheapening the infinite preciousness of her body and soul.

whoever looks at a woman with lust, etc.

what if i only fap to 2D?

If I recall correctly, it's something like "whoever looks at a woman that isn't his wife with lust", so unless it's your wife, if you look at her with lust it's a sin, so yeah, even 2D

you don't need porn to masturbate

If you think that's bad, wait until you hear what they say about gaming

>this is what protestants LARPing as Orthodox actually believe

You're still taking the beautiful gift of sexuality, even that of "womanhood", and exploiting it to satisfy yourself, rather than to use it for a deeper union with someone you love.

God gives 99.9% of us some degree of sex drive. We are called to be responsible with it. Why don't you use that energy to better yourself, find a godly woman, and get married? Then, you can have sex and you won't need the cheap substitute. You'll also be using your sex drive not just to make yourself feel good, but to express your love with this woman.

CS Lewis said, ""For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back; sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. ... Masturbation involves this abuse of imagination in erotic matters (which I think bad in itself) and thereby encourages a similar abuse of it in all spheres. After all, almost the main work of life is to come out of our selves, out of the little dark prison we are all born in. Masturbation is to be avoided as all things are to be avoided which retard this process. The danger is that of coming to love the prison."

No, but you do need to have sexual thoughts about a woman, and unless she is the woman you're married to, you're sinning by entertaining them.

You've got it backwards. You're supposed to believe in God, then shape your morality from there. Going with a religion because it agrees with your viewpoints doesn't make any sense
I'm an atheist and even I understand that

Just accept your status as a sinner and join the one true church

It's all or nothing with the big two, I can't just pick and choose. Otherwise I'd just be my own retarded version of protestantism

>I'm an atheist

This is what they've been saying, but how can I accept myself to be a sinner and simultaneously keep sinning? Isn't the whole point of sinning to change?

orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/selfabuse.aspx

Of course you are, how is that even a question? You're putting carnal pleasure before spiritual matters which you think are true.

Human nature is to sin, we aren't perfect, the whole point is to overcome it

>what is morning wood

>you should stop believing in fairy tales

You should start believing in fairy tales and stop believing in terrorist manifestos.

youtube.com/watch?v=9QageVk0vAQ

>I think I found the ultimate Truth and the source of Salvation but I don't want to stop rubbing my dick
Nice, OP.

>thinking is sin
lmao

Why not just beat your dick like it owes you money and find out when you die? You can always repent, right?

> picking a religion

In what fucked up universe do you think that god if he/they exist would be ok with you switiching religions. I am assuming you grew up in an anglican household. That was all you knew and believed in. Then you hear about orthodoxy and think thats the right way to go? Based on what? If its all faith based, isn't what you had faith in from the begining the best thing to go with? If you travel down the path of logic you will easily realize there is no point in believing in god. So the answer is don't convert to orthodoxy, don't stay anglican, realize your ideology is a joke and pick a more substantial one. Join a sport or some other extra-curricular activity to fill your sense of community and social needs. Replace your moral code with logic and societal courtesy. Masturbate a healthy amount but not so much that it becomes pathologic to your relationships. Then pick an ideology that makes sense to you and shit on all the other ones. Capitalism vs. Communism is pretty classic but Alt-right vs SJW is pretty contemporary. Im kidding of course, there are thousands of philosophies to base your life off of that are not based on bullshit.