Without sparking a /pol/ chimpout, why do white people get shat on for their history of genocide and oppression when these behaviors were constants in nearly all cultures throughout history?
The mongols stacked Persian heads in mounds. The original African slaves were sold into slavery by rival African tribes. The Japanese during WWII conducted grotesque experiments on the Chinese
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White people take the gold medal in genocide, followed closely by the mongols I think
Because Deep down everyone knows that whites are superior so they become filled with feelings of anger, jealousy, resentment, etc
1) Years of belief that they're better than the rest of the world resulted in white people have made higher ethical standards for themselves
2) People in the 19th/20th centuries believed they were morally "better" than their predecessors, therefore the fact they committed genocide on an unseen scale was more shocking to themselves
3) Industrialisation of death, concentration camps from the Boer War to the Holocaust.
I think its partly because we learn about it more in the west, for obvious reasons, and because atrocities committed by euros on other peoples is pretty recent in history. There are plenty of Asian countries that are still angry at Japan over how they acted in ww2.
With great power comes great responsibility.
>White people
This assumes "white people" were or are a homogenous entity with some kind of hive mind intent on systematic murder.
The Mongols were a concrete political and military entity led by a singular dynasty and hierarchy.
White people have slaughtered each other just as much as they have nonwhites.
Resentment and envy.
Because white man dominates the world with the largest economies and cultural influence, simple as that
>This assumes "white people" were or are a homogenous entity with some kind of hive mind intent on systematic murder.
Are you telling me this isn't true :^)
Because white people nigh perfected it.
Yes, user, Asians totally do not lose their shit over Japanese atrocities during their Empire days. It's all about poor whitey being misunderstood.
wh*te people are inherently evil.
Two reasons.
1) A good deal of it is nobody actually cares much about brown people. A lot of the moral performances that go on, go on because 'how could white people do such a thing?' Premised on the idea that white people are somehow different than Mongol standards.
2) It's a lot more relevant when explaining the current state of affairs. When I want to explain why Iran is so fucked up now, I usually don't have time for the Mongols. The most immediate answers involve Russia and Britain fighting over it, Russia losing, and then the British handing it off to the Americans. If I want to explain why the Congo is a shithole, I start with the Belgians. Even Korea, who was getting severely fucked over by the Japanese, the (modern) story starts with America and the Soviet Union dividing the country. It's a consequence of being overwhelmingly relevant in the 19th and 20th century.
As Western Europe/North America is the political center of the world, the media nexus of the world, and generally contains the most news-consuming and socioeconomically-active citizens, the plight of people made victims by this establishment are given a larger platform and a larger audience simply by proximity.
In addition, the political climate and constitutional rights of these regions allows dissent of any kind with little to no retribution from the ruling platform, regional majority, or other groups, whereas other places in the world require necessary tact and unimaginable courage to publicly defy their ruler's official position on any number of things.
If the occasional bashing of your heritage isn't worth the freedoms that you enjoy then I don't know what to tell you.
The fact that Western ideas, structures, habits, etc. are still synonymous with the word "civilization' to this day should let you know that as much as some people don't like it, "white people" culture, values, and identity is not going anywhere, and anyone fear-mongering about "white identity crises" is either retarded, or trying to further their own separate causes.
>followed closely by the mongols
The mongols were the absolute best though when it comes to genocide and mass murder. I
China, Japan, and the rest of East Asia have killed more people than the rest of the world combined. Ghengis khan killed tens of millions but the holocaust was barely a few million (if that).
The real reason is because Jews have made whites into a hated class so they can get rid of any competition.
I hope you realise that "whites" have killed each other more than anyone else
Virtually every victim of the holocaust was "white".
(((they))) have made it so thru education
>the holocaust is the only genocide i can cite
pretty sure 90% of all the Amerindians plus a lot of africans outweigh even chinks
>Without sparking a /pol/ chimpout, why do white people get shat on for their history of genocide and oppression
Politics. Stop pretending there is another reason. Mongolia has nothing to give so why harp on their genocides? The Chinese could give a fuck about any accusations of mistreatment. The west is compassionate and rich.
Yeah, but they killed their own people. Asia invented the concept of genociding yourself.
>Be British
>Spaniards discover New World, countless millions lost to inadvertent disease transmission and many more to heinous acts of violence and cruelty.
>Settle in the Americas, trying to emulate Spanish success
>Get annihilated by natives
>Survive, somehow become dominant European naval power despite small population
>Somehow beat France in a global war
>Ban slavery
>King promises to respect all lands west of the Appalachians as belonging to the natives
>Some franboo slavers who love taking native lands ree and court spanish and french help to become independent
>Owing to unprecedented production of genius, industrialize, become even more powerful despite loss of US
>Use might to strong arm global abolition movement
>Defeat Napoleon and magnanimously let him live out his days bringing an episode of peace to Europe
>Sole and most constant opposition to the Third Reich
>Get lumped in with the sins of the continent as quintessential white people, and "take the gold medal in genocide"...
JUST
Brits are hated for their perfidy though not their cruelty, and theyre hated by everyone for it
unironcially because jews
The past is distorted to achieve present day poltiical ends. That's it. It's not exactly feasible to beg for reparations from, say, Mongolia. Also
Not all of those amerindians were purposefully genocided. The vast majority died from diseases. Atrocities did happen, but just as you can't blame the black death on central asian merchants you can't blame every amerindian death on whitey
Because white people literally genocided nearly everybody on North and South America, Australia and South Africa. No other people have used modern technology to ethnically replace 3 continents worth of people. Also Spanish priests were fucking turds destroying Native codexes
>only succesfully able to genocide central Asia while whitey genocided 3 continents worth of people
>why do white people get shat on for their history of genocide and oppression
they don't
you are thinking of europeans being self conscious about getting their power winning at a game they don't actually want to glorify. certainly you can also find a few loons voicing nonsensical opinions if you look hard enough. do you have any idea how many people exist? many kinds of stupid shit will appear.
>Because white people literally genocided nearly everybody
Love this meme, I guess its why white people are like 8% of the world population and dropping.
>The west is compassionate and rich.
But that doesn't explain why whites get the most heat for any racial or ethnic crimes they committed.
Because the west can pay for their "crimes". Money makes the world go round.
>/pol/tard's reading comprehension is so bad he can't even finish a sentence
Ooh, you're so strong user, calling out /pol/ and posting edgy gif's on a vietnamese rice splicing forums. I bet all the ladies clamor after you.
>8%
Pretty sure it Is way more than that desu
>why do white people get shat on for their history of genocide and oppression when these behaviors were constants in nearly all cultures throughout history?
Because bourgie white people think they're smarter for having a cursory amount of knowledge about their own eurocentric history, but being morons, couldn't care less about the history of other folk and their own histories?
If most white people knew about the Arab slave trade, Barbary Pirates, anything having to do with the Ummayads and Ottomans, then they wouldn't be nearly so kind to Arabs and Muslims.
But that's the problem, how are international corporations going to flood the labor markets with new workers if Islam is being criticized and actually taught about in schools?
Because of paternalist attidue towards non-whites. Only we are capable of being evil, darkies are animals and can not be held responsible for their actions.
>destroying native codexes
who do you think wrote these in the first place? also "ethnically replaced" does not work, since there are still a lot of niggers, abos etc around, so we clearly failed in that endeavour
>used modern technology to ethnically replace
All that happened in the Americas was the spread of diseases to the amerindian and native American populations. I guess we are just going to ignore King Phillip's war and Roanoke as well, huh?
Where does this meme if the industrialized colonist even come from, they were a bunch of old farmers with muskets being protected by small amounts of soldiers.
>who do you think wrote these in the first place?
Mayas
>are still a lot of niggers, abos etc around, so we clearly failed in that endeavour
Niggers were not natives on the continents. Abo population was reduced quite a lot
Many reasons
>1) Identity issues
Because people identity as whites, attacks on white people is seen as attack on themselves.
>2) Better historical records
Better records means more discussion on events, particularly horrible events
>3) Selection/Confirmation Bias
When you live in a country full of whites, you get issues related to whites more often than browns/blacks. I'd reckon the same is true for other races, where if you're living in China, you hear more Chinese related news than white or african. And if you're in Africa, you hear african news than white/asian.
With this disproportionate amount of info on one "race" over other, it can seem like they're out to attack "your" race.
>attacks on white people is seen as attack on themselves
>race" over other, it can seem like they're out to attack "your" race
You'd better be pretending to be retarded
>"your" race
>Because race is something you identify as and nothing more
Because we're better than everyone else
It is sheer jealousy
Because white people won. The Indians under the Raj weren't thinking about the Mughals who massacred the population of Delhi.
What is this boards deal with the Ottomans? Yeah they went around conquering shit like assholes. Literally every Empire did. You think Rome got its empire by asking nicely? They murdered and enslaved with gusto. same with the Mongols, or the Russians, or the English, or the Chinese. The Ottomans were really unexceptional when it comes to the crimes Imperial style civilizations commit.
You /pol/tards are such hypocrites. You act like every other religion hasn't done it's fair share of oppression. Hell even the atheists have chipped in with it. The Bible/Hindu beliefs etc. all have just as much heinous stuff. It wasn't Muslims who enacted the Holocaust, or the Rape of Nanking, or were responsible for the Belgian Congo. If you say that those weren't caused by Christianity/Buddhism/Whatever, then stop saying every crap thing that has ever happened in a Muslim country was Islam. The fact is all empires whether they be Roman or Ottoman or Mongol or Abbassid conquer and subjugate people, and they all use religion as one of their many methods of justification. The reason most Muslim countries are crap is because all the countries in their areas are crap regardless of religion. Christian Africa is shitty just like Muslim Africa
Because people usually learn about and care about their own history first and foremost. Chinese people learn and care about all the genocides that have happened in their neighborhood. But don't care about the Native American genocide.
White guilt, from a period of sheer dominance on the global stage. Every empire, and furthermore every civilization, of the past committed acts we would condemn today. Morality of the present is far too often projected onto people of the past. So why don't Turks, Mongols, etc feel bad about their people's past? Because they aren't on top. Someone has dominated them in more recent history.
Identity politics OP. The people who blame white people for everything want to separate all people in two groups, allies, it this case black people, muslims etc., and enemies, white people and anyone who doesn't agree with them.
They can be separated into 3 groups:
1st group does it for the money, in this group you have people who will lie to the other groups, they are usually the ring leaders, and people in this group don't have to believe what they are saying.
2nd group are the useful idiots, they actually believe that what the first group is saying, these people will do activism and give money to the first group.
3rd group is made out of virtue signaling people, the people who virtue signal do not need to believe what the 1st group is saying but they act like they do because they fear that they might lose friends, family members, status.
This is very simplified, some people fall into multiple groups and to every group there is an exception.
Yeah, its /pol/tards fault that we're bombarded with the "religion of peace" bullshit at every turn. What you're observing is a reaction to that. People literally have to wade trough shit just to dispel the myth of a "tolerant muslim society" let alone dare to expose it for what it was, just another empire being shitheads.
Yep, there are no people who genuinely think we should treat people different than us like human fucking beings. everyone is either part of a disingenuous conspiracy or cowed by them. In truth every human on the planet is a sociopath like yourself who thinks one should never do a good deed unless it has immediate short-term benefits.
hes pulling your leg cunt
>nearly everybody on North and South America
Nope, this only happed in Canada, USA, Argentina, Uruguay and South Brazil. And in many cases the natives were the aggressors.
Guatemala and Bolivia are still native majority and elsewhere natives or their mixed race descendants make a significant percentage of the population.
Literally western jewish media
I never said that we should discriminate people who are different, I just said that people who say that white people are the devil are using identity politics. Also why are you so upset?
It kind of is the /pol/tards fault. After 9/11 there was so much anti-muslim sentiment it became necessary to calm people the fuck down. Yea muslims can be shitheads, so can non-muslims. Muslims are about a third of the world population. If they all wanted us dead there would be a lot more problems in the west than just a handful of crazies plowing trucks into crowds, it would be an outright war.
I also like how you apparently are too uneducated to know about all the Muslim countries not causing a hassle. When's the last time an Indonesian or Bangladeshi, or Albanian, or Bosnian , Or and Turkmen, or a Kyrgyz, or a Uzbek caused a ruckus? Arabs aren't even a majority of Muslims!
There is no meaningful amount of people who genuinely think white people are the devil. The idea that there are is a straw man made by cherrypicking some random twitter post like you can with any belief.
They do exist, if you want proof look at recent riots in the USA, most of the people who participate are young people who believe that they are oppress by white people.
>It kind of is the /pol/tards fault
It predates anything "/pol/" by two decades, at least.
>After 9/11
9/11 was just the largest, there were bombings in Spain and the UK as well, and Muslim terrorism isn't a 21st century phenomenon like many seem to think now.
>Yea muslims can be shitheads, so can non-muslims. Muslims are about a third of the world population.
I like this false equivalence. Muslims, unfortunately, are massively dis proportionally represented in being shitheads, no western country on the planet persecutes homosexuals, most muslims countries do up to and including the death penalty. Most muslims simply hold beliefs that are literally incompatible with western society. Pic very much related.
>If they all wanted us dead there would be a lot more problems in the west than just a handful of crazies plowing trucks into crowds,
Love this leftist trope. Muslims are something between 3-4% of the population in the European union. Its not a handful anymore either and the frequency of attacks is increasing. What should one expect if they were 30% of the population? What do you consider acceptable? 1 in a 100 turning into a terrorist, 1 in a 1000, 1 in 10000 1 in a million? Where would the cut-off be when you would no longer be willing to let in muslim migrants into your society?
You can bullshit as much as you want, but you know full well that given the choice you'd chose a western society to live in as opposed to a Muslim one, unless, that is, you're muslim. Just the same way you'd chose the group with 100 people and 0 rapists than a group of 100 people that include 20 rapists, no one gives a fuck that rapists are a "minority", picking the group with no rapists is preferable..
>it would be an outright war.
They don't have the capability to wage outright war, which is why they resort to terrorist attacks, otherwise they would, like they do in Syria and Iraq among other places.
>When's the last time an Indonesian or Bangladeshi, or Albanian, or Bosnian , Or and Turkmen, or a Kyrgyz, or a Uzbek caused a ruckus? Arabs aren't even a majority of Muslims!
They contributed thousands of fighters to ISIS. Bosnians are majority Christians and there were several terrorist groups apprehended in Bosnia recently. Kosovo alone contributed hundreds, including some high ranking officers, to ISIS. The KLA before the 90's was literally considered a terrorist organisation by the US. Bosnia had their own "mujahedin" during the war.
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I want you, just for a second or two, to imagine the same situation but in reverse, someone claiming his job is to "shut black people down" at some conservative event. What do you reckon would happen?
>somehow become dominant European naval power despite small population
Britain was the naval power with most population of Europe tho.
>theres millions of bears in the Pacific Northwest if bears REALLY wanted to eat us they'd be swarming our cities every day by the dozens!
>Albanians
you mean scum of the Earth?
>Without sparking a /pol/ chimpout, why do white people get shat on for their history of genocide and oppression when these behaviors were constants in nearly all cultures throughout history?
Because a lot of people are "white" and only interested in "white" history. You have to be autistic to think it's about Europeans being bigger dicks than everyone else.
>Somehow beat France in a global war
You meant that time when they took a decade to defeat a French force they outnumbered 4 to 1 on a secondary theater while France (and the rest ofEurope) was busy with Prussia in Europe
It's hilarous how Brits are so self-centered they always make the most secondary aspects of an even (which is often the one they took part in) the whole thing
You seem pretty upset my man. Is it jealousy?
People love to blame "white people" simply because it's easier and doesn't require much though. That's why the only people you see blaming white people" (as if they're some kind of homogenous entity) usually have a severe lacking in historical and socio-political knowledge. It's basically a way to slap a simple label on the cause of a current problem and then be done with it, usually to virtue signal or to make some vapid and bland political statement.
In conclusion, the people who blame "whites" for a lot of modern day shit are unintelligent and bitter
>Muslims are about a third of the world population. If they all wanted us dead there would be a lot more problems
>what are nukes
>what are tanks, guns, bio weapons, etc
Why black and arabs do this?
I Like how you purposefully ignored the context of what she said where she was talking about white people not letting others speak, but I guess it's to much to expect a /pol/tard to argue in good faith or with facts.
But if they were all so scared of these things why is there terrorism? Nice doublethink there where you believe muslims are simultaneously too scared of us to act yet also so bloodthirsty they will always act.
>I Like how you purposefully ignored the context
She specifically chose "WHITE", she could have said "ignorant people" or whatever and make the exact same statement without categorizing by race, yet she didn't, she chose to make it a racial category as if not letting people speak is a white thing. Furthermore she literally emphasizes it several times in quick succession with an emotional overtone to go along with it.
I'll ask you again, you apologist retard, what would happen had it been reverse?
>m-muh /pol/tards
fuck off you dumb faggot.
But they would? Bears don't have any specific animosity towards humans. If they did they would absolutely attack us "The Birds" style.
She is specifically talking about the specific situation in political society wherein white people dismiss minorities. Once again you purposefully ignore context because it proves you wrong
>fuck off you dumb faggot.
"How dare he call me a Nazi!" says the man preaching Nazi ideology.
Because they're rats who don't attack head on and instead cry crocodile tears so you let them pass your military and then they rape and pillage your towns from the inside.
>specific situation in political society wherein white people
I like how you close yourself in your own loop you dumb fucking retard. It's not WHITE people that are doing that, its PEOPLE. Notice how you're categorizing and generalizing people by race you dumb fuck.
>"How dare he call me a Nazi!" says the man preaching Nazi ideology.
And where did I preach nazi ideology? Show me where the big bad nazis touched you.
She not blaming all people who are white, but the people doing it which are all white. You're naive if you think there isn't an issue in American politics wherein the Republican party is specifically geared towards encouraging racial tensions and putting down minorities.
>And where did I preach nazi ideology?
The man talking about how "muslims" (which you use as a racial category) are sullying the purity of the white race wants to know how his rhetoric resembles a Nazi's.
>She not blaming all people who are white
Yes, she is, that's why the label "white" was used. Simple as that.
>The man talking about how "muslims" (which you use as a racial category) are sullying the purity of the white race wants to know how his rhetoric resembles a Nazi's.
Quote me exactly where I said how muslims are sullying the purity of the white race. Then point out where I categorized muslims as a race. Then, after you provided evidence of me doing this, I want you to show me how that makes me compatible with Nazis or Nazism.
I'll wait, you uneducated dumb fucking retard.
>My job is to shut other white people down
And then when a right-leaning black person speaks up she'll call him an uncle tom mediocre negro house nigger.
Do I really have to dig up that quote where Hitler praises Christianity? Hitlers opinions on religion were inconstant and vague. It was always of a minor importance to him compared to race.
>Acting like the GOP isn't the party of White Supremacy and any self respecting black conservative left it long ago.
>hate a country for looking after itself
>doing business with a country known for putting its own interest before anything else
They had it coming after the first couple times
Yea that number doesn't seem right but I can't be too sure, /pol/s alarmism on top of kike disinfo makes it really difficult to figure out what exactly is the reality
Post WWII propaganda in the wake of the Holocaust, American ignorance and the cultural influence of such ignorance on other people
>Do I really have to dig up that quote where Hitler praises Christianity?
His praise of Islam was in private. You're missing my point though.
>Hitlers opinions on religion were inconstant and vague. It was always of a minor importance to him compared to race.
Not really relevant here, the Nazis were not hostile to muslims, in fact they raised two separate SS muslim divisions in Europe, the SS Handschar and the SS Skanderberg composed of Bosnian and Albanian muslims respectively.
Point being that anti-muslim sentiments have literally nothing to do with Nazis and calling someone a nazi because of his perceived anti-muslim sentiments is contradictory to actual Nazis.
>we were the first illegal immigrants
Is this the peak or american education?
because whites are cucks and the only ones retarded enough to be guilt tripped because of it so everyone else takes advantage of you and soon you will be completly extinct, also thanks to you
you are literally the only living being in history of Earth to be so retarded it killed itself
Because they are crazy, you dont see asians or muslims crying about their genocides.
They do all the time. Ask any Asian about Imperial Japan or a Middle Easterner about the Turks.
>no western country on the planet persecutes homosexuals
But that's a bad thing, we should persecute those degenerate subhumans
>Bosnia had their own "mujahedin" during the war.
Dude, they called themselves "mujahedin", this means they were terrorists!!!
It's the reason that anti-white cultural marxism was able to take off, the only people who actually know history are those who go to college for it or crazed internet addicted loners.
No retard personal crying. Japs tell you to shut up if you mention Nanking and turks lmao if you talk about Armenia.
The more recent genocides were done by whites, slavs and asians and the slav and asian ones were done under totalitarian governments who were able to cover it up long enough to pass the point where the layman would care. That's my take on it.
Dude, they were just foreign muslims calling themselves mujahedin waging jihad against the infidels with strong ties to Al-qaida, what has that to do with Islam or terrorism?
The most recent genocides were pretty much all done by Africans against other Africans though.
Why do white people shit on Arabs for doing conquering, sacking, killing, etc. when this was the standard for every empire of the time?
Because some white people pretend they didn't and instead pretend they were multicultural diverse utopias free of hate.
now come on, austrailia doesnt really count. There were hardly any people there to begin with.