Muh warm water ports

>muh warm water ports
Can somebody explain this to me?

explain what? Russia wants warm water ports to be able to protect trading routes, project power and shit

It's pretty simple actually, they didn't want their navies to be useless during winter, It's why they took Crimea from the Turks and Vladivostok from China

Prior to peter the great, russia only had 1 port to trade from that had to go all the way around norway to get to anywhere in europe. their only port was frozen for most of the year too. a port in the baltic and later crimea would ensure them year round trade by sea

But doesn't Vladivostok still require icebreakers to stay ice free the year round? That doesn't seem warm water to me.

A cursory google of "warm water ports" would answer your question, but here you go:

Warm-water port

Awarm-water portis one where the water does not freeze in wintertime. Because they are available year-round, warm-water ports can be of great geopolitical or economic interest. Such settlements asDalianin China,Vostochny Port,[3]MurmanskandPetropavlovsk-Kamchatskyin Russia,Odessain Ukraine,Kushiroin Japan andValdezat the terminus of theAlaska Pipelineowe their very existence to being ice-free ports. The Baltic Sea and similar areas have ports available year-round beginning in the 20th century thanks toicebreakers, but earlier access problems prompted Russia to expand its territory to theBlack Sea.

well they tried to get into Manchuria and that didn't turn out very well for them

>want to trade and harbour fleets all year round
>all ports in East are not legit warm water
>all ports in West that are wwp are monitored by NATO/uk pre cold war during great game (dardenels and Gibraltar for black Sea, and North Sea Denmark and UK)
>spend entire cold war trying to get a port that NATO/UK can fuck off from
>fleet is shit anyways
Pretty chill now as vadvostok can be used as trade port but still no military port for Russia

Geography has been particularly cruel to Russia. Despite its vast size, it has very little access to the ocean. The Baltic Sea freezes over every winter, and it has a narrow chokepoint leading to the ocean which can be easily blockaded, as Germany learned so painfully during WW1. The Black Sea is better in terms of climate, but the Turks control the strait which leads to the Mediterranean, meaning that they have the ability to cut off Russia's ocean access at will, as they did during WW1. That just leaves the Sea of Japan, which has a shitty climate and also is controlled by Japan. Russia has long struggled to acquire access to a port which has a good climate and can't be easily contained by somebody else. Compare that to the United States, which has more coastline than it knows what to do with, and a wonderfully agreeable climate for them.

what do you fucking mean?
we owned Port Arthur until the japs (attacking ships at port of course) with the help of albion (not letting us reinforce our fleet in the east at time)

now that I think England and japan are brothers separated at birth

both look up to perfidy to win wars

Why didn't they just make a canal connecting the Baltic to the Black Sea?

Good post.

Even today Russia's support of Assad in Syria can be explained at its core by a necessity to mantain their naval base at Tartus.

Warm water ports = trade = efficiency = prosperity
Do you have any idea how much that would cost?

Why does Russia need a navy when it can just nuke anyone it wants?

Why does US need a navy when it can just nuke anyone it wants?

St. Petersburg was the biggest muh warming sea port initiative

America only fights just wars.

So does Russia.

You can take rivers most of the way. It'd be less work than the grand canal.

Then they should have no trouble gaining permission to cross straits and obtaining allied warm water ports.

>Then they should have no trouble gaining permission to cross straits and obtaining allied warm water ports.

They didn't have any problems with that when they still could fuck up anyone who said no, just like the US does today.
Superpowers don't ask for permission. Viz. the Phillipine genocide, the invasion of Hawaii, etc. They got Phillipines solely because they were so just and righteous that they were denied warm water ports of Japan and were on their way to obtain the warm water ports of China to get a piece of the Pacific trade for themselves.

Bump.

Basically, Russia really needed to conquer the Korean Peninsula at some point, but they realized it far too late.

USA had to do it, if they didn't Japan would take its place. If they guaranteed their independence the Philippines would fragment into warring factions and Hawaii would suffer under Liliuokalani's monstrous tyranny.

Criticize USA's flaws, however there were few options for who could control these territories and the US was by far the best option.

ports are important (hence the word) for trade

The award of most stupid post on Veeky Forums goes to this fella

>More then 2 thousand kilometers of canal
>So you can understand the Panama Canal, who has 77,1 KM, it costed 4,7 billions of euros only to reform it.
>the terrain even worst as most of the parts are not in the sea level

Geeh why don´t we make a subway US to Venezuela, it will be probably easier

They have Tartus now, it's all finally working out for them

> didn't turn out very well for them
Your post is exactly what he meant by this phrase

> Liliuokalani's monstrous tyranny.

details?

That would be outrageously expensive and wouldn't even solve the actual problem!

>Lose your shit and open fire on fishing ships
>Channel fleet takes exception
>Wtf I hate Britain now