He warned you 100 years ago about socialist parties and organizations being used by bankers

He warned you 100 years ago about socialist parties and organizations being used by bankers

>politicians promise social programs
>government gets in debt to pay for it
>government sells bonds
>banks buy the bonds
>banks tell the government what to do or else they won't buy government bonds
>government must promise more social programs to keep getting reelected
>repeat until the banks own everything

Is social democracy the ultimate meme?

>says vague bullshit so edgy teenagers can claim "it's all here dood!!!!!" a century later
Do you think he's proud of his legacy?

>Is social democracy the ultimate meme?
Well, Lenin was a social democrat before becoming a communist. Later on he realized he needed social democrats because they had good relation to rich bankers so he included them in the Bolshevik movement and later in the Communist Party after the RSDLP was disbanded

>dood

>being this unaware

>dood

>missing the point this hard

>Is social democracy the ultimate meme?
Probably. Look at the awful quality of life people in northern Europe and Australia have.

>dood

Now that we've established you're retarded, my post implied that people who fell for the Spengler meme are the people who would say 'dood'

>saying dood even ironically

>backpedalling

>dood

>backpedalling

What did he mean by that?

Nice that you care about Oswald's legacy but what do you think about socialist movements being directed by money and for the time permitted by money?
To me it seems like he is saying people with a lot of money (bankers, investors, etc) control socialist movements in the sense the movements go only in the directions the bankers and wealth people want.

Spengler was a socialist, he was just an anti-Marxist socialist.

it's not really a noteworthy observation

Was intersectionality the most successful fifth column into the worker's movement ever?

>"Not everything is about an economic theory, right?" Clinton asked her audience of a few hundred activists, most of them wearing T-shirts from the unions that had promoted the rally. "If we broke up the big banks tomorrow — and I will, if they deserve it, if they pose a systemic risk, I will — would that end racism?"
>"No!" shouted her audience.
>"Would that end sexism?"
>"No!"
>"Would that end discrimination against the LGBT community?"
>"No!"
>"Would that make people feel more welcoming to immigrants overnight?"
>"No!"

The gulags were not a mistake; these counter revolutionary capitalist roaders belong there

Actual workers don't care about intersectionality and all this other jew bullshit, it's almost exclusively middle class, university educated females who think it's the bread and butter of revolutionary behavior.

absolute economic justice is a complete meme

interdasting

Why didn't he warn us about capitalist parties and organizations being used by bankers

>muh evil bankers
Is it really bankers though? Just seems like bored middle class kids.

Humans evolved to deal with famine, violence and toil and now there is none. Could be human nature.

>fifth column
You're making the mistake of assuming that the ideology in question was ever about anything else but the gaining of power. Saul Alinsky would refuse to take on anyone whose answer to the question of "Why do you want to fight for Social Justice and Worker's Rights" wasn't "So I can gain power for personal benefit". This has been what it's been about since fucking Marx dude.

Bankers generally don't like free market capitalism because close cooperation with the government allows them to get certain priviledges that they wouldn't have with less control from the state. So they prefer mixed economy instead.

The nibba ain't wrong.
A capitalist power (Germany) fighting a feudal power (Russia). Germany sends the Marxist in.
WW2: Hitler takes control of the country and places restrictions on the economy. Capitalists team up with Stalin to destroy him.
USSR buries feudal society while USA btfos it and introduces capitalism.
In the meanwhile, their conflict has dragged numerous countries into capitalism also, either via socialist governments in non-industrial places destroying pre-industrial relations, industrialising then introducing the market, or pre-industrial countries going straight to capitalism with the backing of the US.
During and after Cold War the left is antiracist and antinationalist for the first world, allowing investors to exploit cheap foreign labour overseas and import it to the West, depressing wages and making organising harder because it's now across more groups. Left then sets to dividing people by ethnicity over class and vehemently opposes nationalist challenges to the will of capitalists. Left also introduces women to the labour pool, doubling the workforce and reducing the value of labour while again introducing more disruption.
The only sense that socialists might have it right is that if they can actually get people alienated and poor enough through their destruction of non-market dominated areas of life and populations, people will demand that the government give them free stuff (as well as harsh control). Bravo left.
To simplify:
Antisemitism is a confused anticapitalism, but anticapitalism is also a confused antisemitism and left wing politics generally are a confused pro-capitalism, that's really about shoving the market into everything and everything into the market. This does, however, pave the way for socialism in a sense. The sense being miserable and unemployed people demanding the state take care of everything.

What I'm saying is a version of socialism will win but it will be American imperial national socialism.

Because it's self-evident.

>Australia
>Social Democracy
Fuck right off

You have to go back

>Lenin was a social democrat before becoming a communist


>Not understanding how nomenclatures for the same things change over time
>Thinking the name of a movement is always correspondant with its ideology and/or practice

I bet you think Nazi Germany was a socialist state

Just what kind of state WAS Nazi Germany? I can barely find any information on what the party actually supported issues wise. It's fascist, but what the fuck is fascism really? There's no way a dictator can micromanage an entire country, even if they try. Hitler had friends, so was it really just a bunch of advisors acting as a cabinet of sorts, but always giving Hitler the last say?
It just seems like monarchy without the divine right, yet, in North Korea, which I guess is fascist, it's passing from father to son, or heir, you get the idea. How about Lenin, Stalin, and Mao? No one had the balls to stand up to them and they were dictators. Does the economic policy dictate the difference between communism and fascism? Is it really the only difference in the real world applications of these two things?

National socialism is racist (in the sense of building a polity around race) and eugenicist.
War forced the commies into including everything that motivates people into their ideology (faith [to a degree], folk, fatherland).
National socialism is also antisemitic, whereas communism was initially full of Jews but then that tapered off somewhat in the East when zee Jews were purged in the Doctors Plot as Zionist elements. Jews, however, did well in the Soviet Union compared to gentiles.
Fascism allowed more criticism.