Tengrism is oldest form of theism thinkable, directly tied to the sky as it even survived in common perception to this day, probably originating hand in hand with the Turks as it is manifested inside and can be read out of their language and everyday philosophical approaches.
Heaven worship serves the navigation through time and space, in its most dense form emerging with nomads of the steppes, for them space-time navigation is most important. It's best preserved in the complete Turkic mythology which is tied to astronomical and other natural events (ie: Nardugan) and even displayed in their nomadic shelter, which gets aligned according to the cardinal directions and at times is understood as a ship. Further it's structured like a church or most other religious buildings.
The opening time dimension, from tying events to celestial phenomena, allows transcendental thought, which means 'that what extends personal to the ego confined space (in time included)' and increases survival likelihood. Survival is ensured by ''kut'', what Turks call life force which is located in the sky, a leader, one who is best at navigating through time and space, is blessed with especially. All these factors combined; transcendental skills, and kut located in the heavens, leads to the conclusion that the leader is closer to Tengri, and its fleshly representation, ascended from the heavens.
Tengrism is a completely scientific religion.
Knowing that the conscious following of Tengrism in Turks usually gets inactivated once settling, we can conclude that the re-activation of Tengrism will lead Turks to colonize space in its most magnificent form imaginable as predicted. youtube.com/watch?v=Au1ZqdwR23s
I prefered it when you subtly posted those TURK man threads to this
Jacob Anderson
That might be you.
Brayden Morales
LARPers like you will only futher divide the Turkic people, Islam is the only religion that can keep us united and safe us from degenerate influence of Western non-Muslim powers.
Camden Lee
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Easton Russell
Your opinion is void. >literally cosplays as an arab >calls me the larper
Xavier Bell
Not even a proper Arab, Asnamiyya is the true way of the Arab people.
Benjamin Williams
Also >Debating Ataturk You can't be a Turk, desu.
Juan Diaz
Literally nobody takes Ataturk seriously except for retarded cargo cultists
Nathaniel Rodriguez
ok. this is bait.
David Torres
Kemalists should be gassed
Joshua Torres
thanks for confirming the bait.
William Stewart
>hurr durr anyone who disagrees with me must be baiting
First of all, tengrism is not the first thinkable form of theism and it would not mean anything even if it is. Roots of Hinduism reach back to the 3300 B.C. which is obviously prior to first appearance of Turkic people.
>Tengrism is a completely scientific religion. Believe it or not, there is no such thing as scientific religion. That's just sheer delusion with some ornaments.
And that "Kut" notion you've mentioned is just a bullshit which lets rulers to get all over people. You need to fathom the coherency and distinction between politics and religion. Don't be a dumbass.
Kayden Perry
*Turks* in Turkey are not real Turks. There is basically no turkish race anymore. Their genes melted between Arabs,Greek and Armenians,etc
Adrian Cox
We don't know what the first Turk's genealogy, because we don't know who the first Turks have been, and even if did it wouldn't matter because in our national culture we're capable of transcendental thought. Concluding from the consistency of the language and other cultural consistent factors and also clues scattered through the historic records tell us that Turks must very old and we know they expanded over and explored most of Eurasia.
In the nomadic Turks, these flowing masses of individuals, constantly moving, but not solely because of that, always clashing with the races ethnogenesis processes taking place on its various groups, with fluctuating genetic and hence phenotypic effects, a different approach from settler cultures', gets constructed when tying the Turkish identity to Turkish speaking populations because a different kind of self reflection has developed and hence view of the world.
Flows of migration take place in spirals and zig zags extending into the highest number of various cultures, languages, religions... over the largest surface area of the world historically and currently for any kind of nation ever existing, from the most central position of humankind with its semiotic, economic, cultural and genetic environment. The Turkish self reflection is located in Tengrism, identity in Turkdom, the biological self identity is located in those.
Carter King
You tried that before, and you failed since you simply make up when the first Turks appear, based on the first records you can get on your hands, and Turks didn't even write those anyway.
Wyatt Martin
>Asnamiyya Please explain
Anthony Bennett
>e.com/watch?v=j4xDOb6DAFY [ >implying that Turks haven't made Islam into a tengri-compatible religion
Adam Brooks
They're all Tengrism off-shoots, products of Tengrism crashing into those prior beliefs, which can't even be called systems, they aren't systematic, to begin with, all of them. Tengrism is the only one of the heavenly religions rooted in actual reality, how else could explain it? In the dessert the prevailing beliefs were centered around the dessert, swallowing people up, so they worshipped that as the only somewhat unitary entity.
Christian Ortiz
Btw, not trying to negate the value of other religions, I see them as branches of Tengrism with unique symbols and insights.
Christian Campbell
Celestially rooted, creating scientific understanding for the first time, the scientific belief system Tengrism is thought to be the oldest religion in the world. We also can see the connection between God and the sky made its way into other beliefs. The structure of the Turk language and Turk philosophical approaches make suggest that Tengrism and Turkdom developed mutually dependent.
Sky-worship serves navigation in time and space, and has in its most dense form developed in nomadic steppes populations for whose lifestyles it's most important and without a question best preserved and manifested in the Turk mythology and body. As an example we can mention Nardugan holiday and Turk nomadic dwellings, which are directed along the cardinal lines and structured similar to other, off-shooting holy houses (the ever moving celestial sphere continuously reaffirms beliefs that reality is forever in motion).
The opening time dimension from tying life ensuring decisions onto reliably, frequently and constantly in intervals recurring celestial phenomena and the verbal sharing of the subsequent values, granted transcendental thought for Turks to exit the emotionally trapped animal kingdom, allowing a sense for truthfulness, justice and beauty and increased survival likelihood. Survival is ensured by in the sky located life force called kut, a leader, one who is best at time and space navigation is blessed especially with. These factors combined; transcendental skills and kut located in the heavens, leads to the conclusion that a leader is closer to Tengri, and its fleshly representation, ascended from the heavens.
Jonathan Perez
When singular objects are being worshiped the resulting belief form is polytheistic.
Only when the sky, which is a singular entity with a whole universe of objects standing in a system, is worshiped the resulting belief system can be monotheistic.
Paradox at first this religion is polytheistic (Cok Tanrili) and monotheistic (Tek Tanrili) at the same time, but then understanding Tengrism it makes sense and turns into a semantic issue.
In Tengrism we can derive the teaching that all these lesser gods (for example the sun, or the moon) are only aspects of the unitary God (the celestial sphere).
That's the reason why it gets orally transmitted that Tengri is inside of everything, and encapsulates everything.
