Argentina 60-70-80s

Can we have a retro Argentina thread?

What can you tell me about this period, after Peron's first era in the 50s?

From outside eems like a very unexplored place and period, yet interesting at the same time.

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wtf Argentina is white?

Frondizi was the man but argentinians as always fucked up

Feels bad man

peronist education, north korea tier

That wasn't in the 60s though

Pls explain the qt sieg heiling

ok have a coup pic then

she was Peron second wife, a cabaret dancer
she ended up being president when Peron died
some witch made a black magic ritual to transfer Evita spirit into her body, not joking at all

If I'm not wrong that was Perón 2nd wife. She took the power after he died then she got coup d'etat'ed and the Junta government started.

No idea why the salute.

Perhaps any argentine can explain us?

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

Argentines in the 1960s were living a golden age of sorts, with a very high GDP per capita (on par with Northern Europe and ahead of Spain, Italy or Japan), high social equality with most of the population in the middle class, universal literacy, public education of excellent quality, and a prosperous egalitarian society where even the lowliest factory worker could afford a car (a shitty Fiat 600 ofc, but it was still unheard of elsewhere in Latin America).

But it was also the worst of times, Argentina was trapped in the protectionist trap that Peron had created, and the economy was showing high-inflation and little growth. Attempts at reform were met with Peronist uprisings and union strikes, as Peron from exile in Spain still controlled and funded these groups.

The civilian governments of this period (Frondizi, Illia) were very honest, hard-working and forward looking, but they were weak, beholden to the military factions that had brought them to power and had very little patience for Peronist unrest.

If Argentines had stopped their sectarian political squabbling and realized they were living on one of the wealthiest pieces of territory at the time, the country would have been better off.
But it was not to be. The relatively peaceful and utopian 1960s gave way to the 1970s spiral of chaos and increasing sectarian violence which ended with the most brutal dictatorship in our history in 1976, with left-wing terrorism and right-wing death squads.

Buenos Aires in 1962:
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Ironically Spain was opening up its economy and catching up to Argentina just as it harboured Perón who was trying to prevent the same thing happening here.

I think she's opening the sessions in Congress and was caught in a weird pose. Peronists typically did not do the fascist salute thing, they were closet fascists dressed as anti-communist "third position" social democrats.

> she was Peron second wife, a cabaret dancer
> she ended up being president when Peron died
Gee, sounds familiar...

Third wife


Between 1953 and 1976 there were 3 successful coups
Thanks Cold War

>If Argentines had stopped their sectarian political squabbling and realized they were living on one of the wealthiest pieces of territory at the time, the country would have been better off.
>But it was not to be.

An interesting project from this period was "Project Centauro", which involved Argentina making its own rocket launchers from scratch and culminated in sending the capuchin monkey "Juan" into space.

This made Argentina the 4th nation to send an animal into space after the USSR, USA and France, in 1969.

the monkey was probably brazilian

Pls stop

Amazing how a country with as much potential as the USA to develop itself ended up like it is today. I hope president Macri is doing his job in making Argentina prosperous again.

Something that nobody has mentioned yet is the fucking oligarchy who refused to industrialise the country because muh agriculture maymay

Could be at least developed. Corrupt, but developed

AFAIK Argentina industrialized a big deal, to the point of having a military-industrial complex (dismantled after the Falklands War)

>Amazing how a country with as much potential as the USA to develop itself ended up like it is today.
You can say the same about the USA itself.

He's being hijacked by leftists, Cristina supporters and mapuches

I think he's doing a great job, but the world economy is closing up just as we are embracing free trade again, we always have terrible timing.

He is playing a balancing act trying to get along with both Trump and the EU.

UMA

>we'll never go back to the 90s living standards again
Feels bad man

Argentina was industrialized, at the cost of destroying its extremely competitive agricultural export industry. Countries of similar size and population like Australia or Canada are still mostly commodity exporters.

The real meme was the peronist/military's obsession with having a powerful industry through protectionism rather than through export-led growth as happened in Asia. Industry needs to be competitive in the world market otherwise it's pointless.

Fucking 60s haircuts man

It was extremely developed, as rich as the USA in the 1940s and still richer than Southern Europe by the 1960s.

We went from Switzerland or Australia-tier to Portugal-tier in a generation thanks to military and Peronist shitheads that ended 70 years of unbroken constitutional rule between 1860 and 1930.

The sad party is, I can't tell which country you're talking about.

sure, those uneducated peronist masses just landed from Mars

No, they landed from fascist Italy and commie Spain and brought their shit ideologies with them.

The sad thing is this. It's memed and joked a lot but italian (specially) and spanish immigration unironically ruined this country

J.B. Alberdi was right

t. Italian descent

>Australia wins

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Stop posting this nasty cunt, at leadt bump with good Presidents.

Pic: Ike's State Visit to Argentina, meets President Arturo Frondizi in front of the Argentine Congress 1960

Argies can’t even take a few rocks.
What a shame.

taking them was no problem though

Trying to hold them was obviously a huge fucking mistake then.
Come come, there’s wisdom in defeat.

so why did italy prosper in postwarii europe? its it because they were connected to the european market and integrated into europe as part of the elite project after wwii? Is argentina essentially what an alternate timeline would look like if italy remained fascist and mussolini lived?

Because Padania

If Italy was all terroni, like most italian argentines are, it would be a shithole like the south of Italy in fact is

>If Italy was all terroni, like most italian argentines are
You're confusing argentina with the USA.

Wasn't most Italian immigration to South American from the North?

Yes.

You are basically correct. Italy, Germany and Japan were basically integrated into the world economy by force, kicking and screaming, by the Allied victory and obliteration of their military-industrial complexes.

Argentina, which was stable and integrated into the world economy until the Great Depression, cut itself off from the world economy through protectionism and statism, and never managed to integrate itself successfully again though there were some attempts (like Frondizi).

There was no Marshall Plan for Argentina, no guarantees of defense as in South Korea or Japan, it was basically left to stagnate because it is not located on a strategic position of the world, and its agricultural production (wheat, beef, corn) made it a competitor for the USA and the Commonwealth rather than a complementary economy.

I meant he is basically correct, wrong quote

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Argentina is truly a fascinating country... up to the 1960s it's like a mirror image, Spanish-speaking version of the USA

Broke free from Spain, proclaimed a Republic, fought its own civil war over state's rights (they had no slavery though), attracted millions of immigrants from all over Europe with freedom of religion and a free market economy, became a creditor to the Allies in WW1, even developed in the 1950s its own version of the F-86 Sabre jet fighter around the same time.

You haven't seen uncanny valley until you've seen some Anglo named Williams speaking to you in Spanish.

We def need more South American history on this board