What if France had continued in 1940 ?

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More shitty and expensive tank designs.

With what?

*from the Germans

French were spineless cucks. They had a chance to stirke Germany in 1936 and in 1939 and they sharted their g-strings.

>implying the Somua S35 wasn’t a piece of shit that in terms of capability was perfect for its price
piss off

Like Germany?

>they kept Char 2C around until 1940
>still did nothing with it
>the tank was never used in combat

Depressing.

Why couldn't Shitler have died right then and there?

Why do people give France shit for surrendering again?

Because their defense was chaotic and featured a lot of running. They were giving up pretty easily.

Because France hasn't been stable since the revolution.

they don't have space to trade for time like the Russians had, nor a channel to hide behind
they were pretty much fucked and got unlucky by being under of command of retards like Gamelin

Well the French fleet would have been scuttled or proposals to join the English fleet would have been accepted, maybe a mixture.
French forces might have evacuated across to African colonies and have had a larger impact in that theater.
Probably total occupation of mainland France instead of a puppet state, French people would have had a harder more destructive war than what they got by capitulating early, but would have retained some prestige. Whatever that is worth to anyone when your house is rubble and your family dead.

Dunno, especially when you know the Soviets retreated on an area four times the size of France before being able to stop the German advance

Don't ever talk shit about my tankfu again

Because at least on paper, France looked like they were as strong, maybe even a little stronger, than Germany in 1940's late spring. To not only lose, but essentially be obliterated without much apparent effort on the German's part in 6 weeks was a colossal shock all around.

Because surrender is for cowards

Poland lasted as long as france did. even though their military was shit and were being invaded from both sides.

That's not true at all. Poland surrendered on the 27th of September, so 27 days. Even if you only count from the start of Fall Gelb so you can ignore the months France was at war previously, the armistice was signed on June 22nd, which makes it 43 days.

There's actually ana lthis book that explores this. It's in 2 volumes, 1940 and 1941-42. It's made by US and French military historians and professors from various military academies so it's not shitty fanwank. I recomend reading it, it's pretty neat in its autistical accuracy and attention to detail.
To answer your question, the POD from OTL is that Lebrun's mistress, which consensus blames for a lot of his pessimism and eventual capitulation to defaitist pressure, dies in a car crash in '39 instead of only getting a commotion.
Everything else happens as in OTL, the French army get impossibly rekt. But the difference is that the political class doesnt give up and eventually retreats to North Africa. The French organise what they call a "Great Relocation" with the French army essentially outrunning the Germans to the Med coast and evacuating to Algeria (~7 divisions worth of men), along with a part of the adminstration, intelligentsia and industrial capacity of Southern France. What happens next is essentially the Anglo-French pushing the Axis out of Africa with the French Army of Tunisia supported by a few remaining armored and air units essentially pulling a reverse mechanized offensive on Libya. Later they use their superiority in the Med (French navy is unrekt unlike OTL) to take over Sardinia and the Dodencanese while losing Corsica. Greece (and Yugoslavia) are here seen by the allied command as their first chance to do something relevant again, so Greece essentially becomes a stalemate between the Axis and Allies until Rommel is bused in by the Germans and Allies are confined to various islands and positions easily defended by naval bombardements.
There's also a very autistically detailed section on the various potential economic developments in the French empire caused by the relocation of the entire state to its colonies. In this world Algeria would probably try to gain independence much earlier, with an entire new class of soldiers, officers and workers.

What's their basis for Rommel winning Greece? It's terrain totally unsuited to his sanic fast advance tactic

Rommel was a mountain infantry specialist until the BoF.

British and Greek incompetence.
See: Battle of Crete.

Uh, France was at war since 1939.

The series ends in 1942 when the Soviet Union joins the war, as the authors conclude that operations beyond this point can't be determined because the "entropy fog" becomes to great. They do point out that Germany would probably be taken out earlier, by 1944, as the French would contribute a substantial fire-tested mass of soldiers, that, once reequiped by the Anglo-Americans and it's own facilities from the Empire would be quite a boost to the Allies.

Essentially The Allied armies had impossibly shitty doctrines and the book doesnt hide that. The only field that gets developed sooner and better than OTL is bombing which the RAF and Armée de l'air get a chance to get acquainted with during the battle of France and the bombing of Italian Africa.

>Even if you only count from the start of Fall Gelb so you can ignore the months France was at war previously,

Some illustrations from the book - Fall Gelb - part 1

Party 2. The Germans would have to stop for a week or so in mid France, to wait for fuel and supplies to catch up.

General operations in 1940.

Anglo-French takeover of the Italian Dodencanese in October 1940 (essentially a very minor operation to boost allied morale)

If by specialist you mean fought in the mountains in WW1 sure, so did Schorner, it means nothing

Uh no, Rommel rose up through the ranks of mountain infantry.
Honestly why do people like you even bother to post on Veeky Forums when you obviously have zero interest in history?

Operation Marignan, the invasion of Sardinia. shown as a critical step in development of allied air support doctrine.

When does this alt-his invasion of Sardinia take place? I have trouble believing that the Allies would have the kind of sealift, especially landing craft, to make something feasible before 1942 at the very earliest.

Scipion and Alma 1940, the cleanup operation of stranded Italian forces by Nogues and his newly acquired beaten up planes and tanks that still ouperform and tankette or bi-plane the Italians throw at them.

fuug forgot pic
Winter 1940-41. They get beaten up pretty bad and eventually the Germans retake it IIRC. The whole operation is pretty sloppy as there is no landing craft or doctrine, so Marignan 2, the only one that suceeds in capturing a port, goes runing around Sardinia relieving stranded Allied forces.

People didn't. The USA started the whole meme when France didn't back them up during their invasion of Afghanistan.

General Operations 1941. Germans get mad at the Allies getting cheeky in the Med and mass parachute Corsica and Sardinia, retaking them. Iran and Iraq join Axis and get promptly BTFO by the British, Yugoslavia and Greece join the Allies and also get BTFO by the Germans. Greece becomes a stalemate for a month and a half until Rommel cleans it up by the end of june 1941. Greek government and army retreat to the islands and an "island front" is set up. Meanwhile Axis and Allies fleets duke it out around the Med, with the Allies coming up on top, but with heavy losses on their side.

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German-Italian invasion of Corsica, February-March 1941

Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece

Curious, how is America taking these altered decisions? Is pro-allied/British support any greater or less than historically?

Operations in Asia procced as OTL with the exception that the Japs now also have to sweep French Indochina, which isnt that much of a problem. The French arming the local population at the last minute and giving them basic training is also nodded to come and bite them in the ass after the war.

Basically very similar to OTL, with the French participating to the Atlantic conference. Americans are a bit more ambivalent to the French than the Brits though, but support them with Lend Lease. French engineers also go to the US to give the lessons they've learned in France to American tank and bomber designers. This leads to a slight change in American doctrine, with bombardements escorted with fighters, which slightly decreases their causality rate.
America joins the war as in OTL, after Pearl Harbour.

February 1942 sees an Allied counter-offensive in Greece that retakes some coastal areas and Limnos, an island that would see one of the most brutal melee fighting in the Med front, both when the Germans took and when the French retook it.

The operation sees modest gains for the allies.
The series ends here, in April 1942, as Germany declares war against the Soviet Union. Americans get a bit butthurt when the French immedately offer an Alliance&Cooperation to the Soviets.

So the Axis is literally being BTFO in every front and they just declare war in a far more strong and prepared URSS in April 1942 than was in IRL expecting win?

best timeline

Is this book available in English?

Well by end of 1941, the Axis essentially controls all of the Med islands except the eastern Greek island, lulling them into a sense of control. Also every month Germany spends not being at war with the SU, the better the Soviet troops get.

I remember hearing about some English reviews at the time it came out but I cant for the life of me find it.