Rampaged around for a few centuries

>I really can't find a single positive side about them.
There's a bunch of revisionist historians writing about the positive side of mongol conquests.

They helped establish the silk road plus they were multicultural.

on the contrary
before you had to pass through the territories of different factions, meaning you had to pay taxes to each faction and hoped neither will kill you and steal your goods. after he mongol conquest conquest authority became more centralized so fewer taxes and a lot safer passage

they brought civlization to the chinese

>inb4 muh religious pluralism

The rise of the Mongols killed 1/10 of the world's population but didn't affect long term historical forces: they were like a calamity that struck down a fraction of the existing global population but overall, the world's population quickly recovered and since the Mongol's didn't change to a great degree the social institutions of conquered territories, their long term effect was null.

The worst thing that ever happened was the rise of Rome, because the rise of Rome lead to the stagnation and decline of classical civilization. It took nearly two thousand years before western civilization recovered from the fall of Rome.

The single historical event of greatest importance for the rise of Rome was the Second Punic War. Thus the most tragic event in human history was the Second Punic War.

>virgin could walk with a pot of gold on her head from one end of Asia to the other unmolested

I think it's Juvaini A A (n.d.) The History of the World Conqueror. Translated from Persian by Boyle J A (1958)

>romans die
>the modern age and the renaissance immedattley begin
brainlets need to take a look at reality before they start posting

The only thing that saved Europe was the shit inheritance laws that needed Mongol princes to ride back to Karakorum to choose a new Khan. Most battles were either losses or wins with heavy European casualties.

well they knew how to deal with greedy back stabbers with gold

true desu. The reason Islam is so barbaric nowadays is because people saw the mongols burning of Baghdad and the house of wisdom as a clear message from god himself that science and questioning if the world described in the Quran was unholy.

Vietnam resisted their invasions, as did japan and India. Its no stretch to say that the West could have survived the full brunt of the Mongols.

then, instead of accepting god can be understood through logic, they decided to turn their backs on anything that's not dogma.

the mongols are the reason Islam didn't have a Thomas Aquinas

The caliph killed mongol messengers. Seems pretty clear cut to me.

Desu they won most of the battles they fought against the west

Islam was captured by the same fanatical impulses that drove the Spanish Inquisition. Islam never got past that point.

The West by which I mean Christian Europe escaped a similar fate because of the Reformation. Yes Luther, Zwingli, Knox Wesley et all had a part in freeing Europe from the kind of religious dictatorship that has afflicted Islam for the past thousand years.

The many al-ghazalis islam had could always point out to the mongols as a proof, and then keep arguing that the right thing to do is to prioritize Islamic philosophy in detriment to Islamic scientific progress.

Imagine if the Mongols had burned the big cities of europe. Luther and company could be easily refuted by people saying god will send the horsemen of the apocalypse every time people ask too many questions.

Fuck off protty, humanism thrived without protestants killing Christendom and sucking off Turkish Muslims.

>protty

what is even a protty

Protestant

Proteshit

>India
Mughals, though technically they are a break off of a break off of the Mongols.

ew don't call me that

>japan
A freak typhoon isn't resistance, nor is the the Mongolian stupidity of using river boats to travel the ocean.

>Japan
Cross the sea with what? Wooden horses?

lmfao pal subutai absolutely gaped Rus without even stopping anywhere for more than a week or two, & Poland got their shit bred as well but Hungary bailed em out

nonetheless in the end they fucked it all up because they lost momentum and went back to hard reset parts of China again, but all's well now right

>implying it wasn't the Emperor protecting his people
It's like you don't believe the Emperor is a god

...

>civilized

What people tend to forget that is, in addition to Baghdad, Islamic Khurasan whose cities were major centres of knowledge were also severely devastated.
Literally the entire intellectual landscape of the Islamic world was wiped out in a few decades by the mongols in a few decades. Baghdad was just the final nail in the coffin.

They never faced any real western nation. Shitting on a bunch of Slavs is nothing to brag about

Honestly I think 'evil' is his bigger spook even though he put quotes around it

no, the most evil were the anglos.
Everybody knows that.

what is exactly negative or unusual about them relative to their medieval counterparts? their high ratio of success?

They fucked Muslims in the ass

There's your positive

>rampaged around for a few centuries
>destroyed or severely impeded various civilized societes
>faded into obscurity
That's because you think what people call Mongol isn't Turk.

>I really can't find a single positive side about them.

They slowed down the erosion of earth from excessive farming and reforested areas once made up completely for agriculture by wrecking the city squatting cucks

the tactics were similar. They faced western tactics.

tfw mongols are the reason we have the truck of peace

thank you for the (You)'s; butthurt mongolaboos always reply, but sorry, it won't change anything. mongol shits couldn't conquer poland. sad. weak little horselets can't beat the wend stallion

We

>killed Ch*nks, M*hamedans, and Sl*vs
I see no problem here

More brainwashed anti-Mongol faggotry. By "destroying" you really mean enforcing international law for the first time ever.

that's horsefuck
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Mongol_invasion_of_Poland

and previous invasions were hardly impressive too
>attack a country that was fragmented into tiny kingdoms full of butthurt princes waging wars on each other
>manage to sack only one province
woah

such damage

So you mean conquest is something that the europeans were better at?

>attack a country that was fragmented into tiny kingdoms full of butthurt princes waging wars on each other

Like in the first crusade?

>fail every time time after that

Like in every crusade after after the first ?

and lets not forget

>had to pay muslims a hefty sum of money to get their own king back from the middle east

Wow europeans are such great conquerors! That's why the pakis in Britain are colonizing the natives much better then the anglos could colonize them.

>Pax mongolica
>connected Europe and East
They were pretty based desu. Most of the pillaging and raping was just their own propaganda to scare their enemies, lands under their rule were one of the safest places at the time.

>They helped establish the silk road
The Silk Road has been around since the time of the Romans, maybe even before that. Persia and Parthia were so strong exactly because they were the point connecting east and west, which made them fucking rich.

Bullshit. People from eastern euro inland countries are short and impoverished. Their biggest threat is usually famine.

A coastal place like England/France/Spain/Germany? They harden the fuck up. Formidable fighters live there, increased trade makes the economy more robust = higher likelihood of having proper nutrition throughout your upbringing.

So size/fighting strength AND the larger economy and superior technology that originated in western European countries would have made a difference. A striking difference. Western European countries never feared eastern ones... not for a thousand years.

Kinda wish the Mongol horde had made it further west. Europe might have responded in kind and wiped those ugly motherfuckers off the face of the earth. Who knows though.

Mongols never attacked the Anglos because they knew that they'd get btfo. The nomad fears the longbow. It would be like 100 agincourts put together, the steppe savages would never recover

Lmao youre a dumbass

they forced rivaling small dutchies, kingdoms and whatnot to unite in order to deal with them

essentially a force that lead to centralization from which other achievements of humanity could be reached

consider it a great purge withouth r9k angry virgin attitude of the nazis

>what is the USSR

lmao virgin cuckold anglo shitstain, still shitting your pants Ivan possibly visiting you

t. Hanz

Are you retarded? No seriously, are you?

Are you retarded?

>They eventually brought prosperity to much of Asia due to stabilizing the Silk Road.
Oh yes, it definitely helped trade, caravans, merchants, and travelers in Asia that the Mongols committing constant acts of razing cities and towns in Persia, China, and especially in Central Asia. That surely helped trade routes flowing.

Not.

The Silk Road was around since the Achaemenid Persian period, maybe even earlier or at least near that time period. Also as someone mentioned, another one of the really hugely negative consequences to the Mongol invasions in Western Asia and Mesopotamia was the almost total destruction of 70% of surviving qanats the Persians had keep going for over a thousand or more years prior to that. This lead to significant desertification in south and western Iranian and central and northern Iraq.