How can one ideology be so evil?

How can one ideology be so evil?
>Red Terror
>Great Purges
>Holodomor
>Khmer Rouge
>Great Leap Forward
>North Korea
Anything else I'm missing?

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>>Khmer Rouge

>hey guys here are some things some ml's did so haha your entire ideology is btfo

also the khmer rouge were beaten by communists

>Red Terror
Terror to whom? The corrupt upper classes and rotten nobility? Then good. It is terror.
>Great Purges
So it's a bad thing that the Communist party gets rid of its criminals? No surprise here, that concept is unimaginable to a capitalist.
>Holodomor
All of the Soviet Union suffered from famine, not to mention that kulaks burned their crops.
>Khmer Rouge
Pure, straight-out-of-a-cartoon propaganda. Read some Chomsky.
>Great Leap Forward
Pretty much the reason why China went from 100 years of humiliation by western Imperialists to soon eclipsing US as the global superpower.
>North Korea
It's Juche, nothing to do with communism.

>eclipsing US as the global superpower.

They already have

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/23/in-global-popularity-contest-u-s-and-china-not-russia-vie-for-first/

it’s happening, fatty.

Yeah, how silly of us to think that the Communist Party of Kampuchea was communist

It would have made more sense to post laughimg americans

>by engaging in capitalism and worker exploitation
Weird how Communism gets btfo and taking a shit on your underclasses quickly closes the gap.

>Ideology
>Not gender
Men was a mistake

I smiled/10, nice bait

*That* was the part that made you think if it was bait? Not the hint about asking Chomsky about the Khmer Rouge?

Yeah, that was pretty silly Mr.CIA guy, but then again it's not your last false flag

>khmer rouge were beaten by communists

But they were suported by maoists

The Soviet Union industrialized at an amazing rate. What other ideology has managed to turn its country from effective serfdom to being the leader of space race in a matter of just a few decades?

And imagine if socialism could do that for an agrarian society, what could it do if it was based on a developed society?

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>It's Juche, nothing to do with communism.

Indeed, nothing is more anticommunist then central planning of the economy.

Okay, I guess the Nazis were communists, then. All the while killing all communists they came across, both within and without.

>So it's a bad thing that the Communist party gets rid of its criminals?

No, in fact I wish they had purged more.

>going that far and still not being an anti-natalist

>Nazis were communists.

Nope, and you are in denial.

>the soviet union industrialized at an amazing rate
they also lined people up against walls and shot them at a pretty amazing rate too

Commies killing other commies is one of the main parts of communism
see

And the CIA.

Mao and Kissinger let the Cambodians do whatever they wanted long as they opposed Vietnam

I was agreeing with you up until the "read Chomsky" part

This is some really really good bait

Its a jew scam to redistribute goyim wealth to kike elites then torment the nonjews in said country to their heart's content. There is a reason why jews always support communism.

Please provide your sources for as much as 30% of jews supporting communism, otherwise your bullshit can be dismissed. Anyway, off the top of my head, they took Ayn Rand's father's business and needless to say she was vehemently opposed to communism.

>the Maotist with american jew 4d chessmaster supported /pol/pot against vietnam commies.

Da fuck?

>north korea
>evil
found the american libertard

Have you considered comparing your list to capitalism?

Anyway it's not communism if power does not belong to the people. Just totalitarism disguised.
Do you believe Russia has democracy now? Putin says it does.

What kind of background do you have to come from to become a Marxian? My whole upbringing was shitlibs, and there was never any talk of Marx among them.

Isn't that picture from Seven Samurai?

ye

The rate at which they executed people wasn't that exceptional. 600-700k by conservative estimates, done over a few years from 1934-40.

>conservative
you mean revisionist

What's revisionist is the bullshit from people like Robert Conquest saying that 20 million (over 1/8 of the population) died in that time span, using methods much less sophisticated and efficient than those of the Nazis.

No, time btfo of you're retarded ideology, that and the fact that everyone who is proud to associate with it is a fucking loser

Shut you you fucking parasite

>read some Chomsky

You mean the faggot who blames the west for everything just like every other retard who never wants to leave the west

Men are precious and should be preserved. Women are subhuman and evil and should be fed to a wood chipper.

We'd be sitting around in grass skirts if it was down to you sweetheart

Another faggot who thinks blaming things that happen regardless of capitalism is capitalisms fault. You artists are worse than pol

>Anything else I'm missing?
Yes, the communist party manifesto since you obviously didn't read it.
Communism is supposed to be stateless, how were any of these commited by a communist society?

>more Kazakhs starved than Ukrainians so the Holodomor never happened
yeah cause if the breadbasket of eastern Europe is only slightly better off than a desert that's totally fine and not a sign of a huge fucking problem right?

>communist parties don't want communism or try to achieve it

Remember all those long passages Marx wrote about how communists must create despotic authoritarian states and build death camps...?

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>if they say it happened, it never did
>if it did, then he didn't cause it
>if he did, then it wasn't as bad
>if it was, then it wasn't a big deal
>if it was, then it wasn't his fault
>if it was, then he didn't mean it
>if he did, then they had it coming anyway

US butthurt against Vietnam was huge,
China needs something to prove their loyalty to their new ally so....

>justifying mass murder motivated by ideology
>not real socialism/gommunism
every time

Hot off the presses commies BTFO the fuck out eternally

>the absolute state of Veeky Forums
Disgusting desu. Go practice historical revisionism on /leftypol/, /r/socialism or wherever you came from. Communists are the most disgusting subhumans on the planet.

It is the ideology with the greatest degree of separation between its theory and its practice.

Its just a shame that dumb people keep falling for it and ruining their countries.

Not an argument.

capitalism is not a form of government, communism is.

>true communism hasn't been tried yet because those other times had a state

Maybe you just need to commit a few more genocides before you get the idea that communism doesn't work

If this is b8 I applaud you as a master baiter. If this is serious your idiocy is astounding and it physically hurt me to read that. How can one man be so stupid? As a society we should not stand for this and hope you are bullied constantly, or at the very least, you're alone

10/10 gulag for you

Latin America is missing.

>Cuban Terror (c. 35k)
>Cuban Balseros (up to 77k)
>FARC Narco-state (c. 220k) (all sides)
>Sendero Luminoso (c. 70k)
>Nicaraguan Revolution (c. 40k) (all sides)
>Terrorism in Argentina (c. 1k)
>Terrorism in Brazil (at least 800)
>Terrorism in Chile (at least 500) (Allende/MIR)
>Terrorism in Uruguay (at least 76)
>Terrorism in Paraguay (at least 60) (EPP)
>Terrorism in Bolivia (at least few dozens) (Che)
>Terrorism in Venezuela (at least nine) (Machurucuto) (only dead commies)
>Salvadoran Civil War (c. 70-80k) (all sides)
>Guatemalan Civil War (c. 25k) (all sides)
>1992 Venezuelan Coup (c. 143-300) (Chavez)
>Bolivarian Venezuela (at least 219) (Maduro)

Only fatal casualities. Sorry for any mistakes.

You probably think Cambodia is still Communist

Absolutely shit and unfunny.

This organisation was established by Vietnam and dissidents. It is not the Khmer Rouge.

B-but Allende did nothing wrong! He's only a victim right!

Small complement:

>Terrorism and repression in Ecuador (at least 33) (AVC/30S)
>Nicaragua vs. Honduras + USA (c. 30) (Golden Pheasant)

>he really thinks communism is bad and evil
>Not realising that humanity is not ready for it 'cause of greediness and other primitive shit
>He thinks Stalin communism, Mao communism ecc. is real communism
>Kelly.jpg

*revisionism intensifies*

>greediness
>primitive shit

Greed is absolutely essential for survival you nonce.

What's your point?

>look at how enlightened I am compared to these peasants
>we're all equal though, for real.

>nonce
Fuk off anglo

>mentioning /pol/ in Veeky Forums
GTFO

Indeed

You are a fucking moron.

Neatly arranged for your personal convenience.

>my specific ideal form of communism that couldn't exist in reality and that doesn't make us look like power-hungry cowards has never been tried
Mext time you'll get it right for sure. You just need one more chance to prove that dirty commies are able to control their genocidal urges? Truly the party of the people.

>USSR
>126mil
Almost all of these numbers are bullshit
youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg

Communism is bad and evil because it permits people to deceive themselves into thinking they're the good guy whilst killing anyone who doesn't follow their rules to create the "perfect state."

A good system would take into account greed and other primal urges of man and harness the energy of those primal drives to promote a greater being.

>It is the ideology with the greatest degree of separation between its theory and its practice.
Chosing between Clinton and Trump hardly counts as a democracy. It is not the fault of communism, but rather real democracy and "power to the people" is hard to acquire. You would need smart, educated people, because there is always someone to mindfuck and use them. The simple peasants of Russia and China were a great target.

>Its just a shame that dumb people keep falling for it and ruining their countries.
USSR industrialized its backward country, rebuild after the war and put a man in space in a couple of years. And it wasn't even a real communism. That's ruining?

It is a set of ideas, an ideology about how to govern a country. As is communism.

>sommtsnsm

>>Salvadoran Civil War (c. 70-80k) (all sides)

My uncles were in a Salvadoran Anti-Communist death squad and my dad was a spy for them.

AMA

>denying that Stalin personally executed every single person who died within Russian borders
fucking commies I swear

fucking human lives for the sake of humanity since 1917

kek'd so hard

>RedArmyUncle
>have a picture of Mao

>And it wasn't even a real communism. That's ruining?

USSR had state capitalism, comunism is about worker ownership of the MoP

>put wealth and economy of entire country into the hands of a centralized government
Although this never works in any other form of government, our pure utopian ideals will ensure they act in the best interests of all!

>organize one-party system to ensure ideological unity
Sure this leads to dictatorships in other forms of government, but this is communism. It's for the people!

>ambitious man seizes the conveniently centralized power and wealth
Wait this isn't real communism at all! We must have had the wrong ideals. Hopefully future generations will be brave enough to try again and do it right.

>Anyway it's not communism if power does not belong to the people.
Is it not a rain dance if it doesn't provide rain?

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Body count?

They never gave me an exact number actually, I just know its quite a few

I know one of my uncles helped do an entire village, apparently they found a shitload of ammo, guns and "literature". They were subsequently ambushed but were able to to put the guerrillas in that area down, my other uncle was in a less populated area that was crawling with communists, he didn't really talk about it outside of that "we killed a lot of people"

My dad passed intel along that ended up getting a bunch of communist an artillery shell through their roof, turns out it wasn't just some guys who were sick of the government, they were honest to God communists from Cuba, San Salvador and Nicaragua

lol why the fuck should I get a job or education if I can get free food and housing
>t. basketballus americanus

That's not real communism. Real communism has never been tried.

Communism failed even in 100% white and previously developed nations like East Germany or Czechoslovakia, now imagine how's it gonna fare in a country full of niggers and mestizos.

>food would be healthy, fresh, and freely available
medium kek

he thinks being responsible for like 3 periods of terror, 2 "genocides", and 4 "intentional" famines makes something most evil ideology ever.
Are Americans really this fucking ignorant?

Brits probably killed twice as many people as communists ever have
>Trans-atlantic slavetrade
>not american genocide
>Colonization of Africa and Asia
>Irish Famine
>Bengal famine
>numerous famines in India
>malayan emergency

>"[Mike Davis] explores the impact of colonialism and the introduction of capitalism during the El Niño-Southern Oscillation related famines of 1876–1878, 1896–1897, and 1899–1902, in India, China, Brazil, Ethiopia, Korea, Vietnam, the Philippines and New Caledonia. It focuses on how colonialism and capitalism in British India and elsewhere increased rural poverty and hunger while economic policies exacerbated famine. The book's main conclusion is that the deaths of 30–60 million people killed in famines all over the world during the later part of the 19th century were caused by laissez faire and Malthusian economic ideology of the colonial governments."

>>Trans-atlantic slavetrade
>>not american genocide
>>Colonization of Africa and Asia
>>Irish Famine
>>Bengal famine
>>numerous famines in India
>>malayan emergency

More like capitalism victims

This,

You fucking transvestite tankie edge-lord, do you really expect here to listen to your verminous crap? Every one of your claims is wrong or empirically bad and barbaric.ŵ

You're actually write. Marx writes nothing of "providing free healthcare to all". The very existence of the healthcare industry was what triggered him, and most European national health services work with rather then against the private sector...

Why do soc dems pretend they're communist again?

The ideaology itself isn't inherently evil. It's an unobtainable ideal that obsessive morons will stop at nothing to realize, even going so far as to 180 their principles for the showmanship that accompanies denial of failure

That's the highest estimate. The table gives you the full range so that you can research and decide.

Surely you agree even the lowest estimate (28 million) is an unnacceptable number. How do you reconcile these beliefs to sleep at night?