Why didn't they ever create a civilization?

Why didn't they ever create a civilization?

They did.
You keep on spouting they didn't even ignoring historical records pointing to the contrary

They did, in Egypt. Shit like Great Zimbabwe wasn't anything close to civilization though.

Too many black people

Too dumb

I'm not talking about Egypt or Great Zimbabwe but I'm not willing to waste my time on someone who's being willfully ignorant despite the evidence to the contrary just a google search away

>egpypt
>africa
It's literally included in the definition of middle eastern
>sardinia
>populated before the advent of renaissance technology
nigga please

A country can be both in Africa and the Middle East, retard-sama.

The middle east is a meme construct though.

>what is ethiopia

There might have been civilizations in Africa before the desertfication of the North around 3900 BC. And do not forget the world's richest man, Mansa Musa of Mali.

Egypt
Carthage
Mali
the Swahili states
Ethiopia
Aksum
Songhai

the list goes on in numbers of civilizations that popped up across the continent,

Civilization is by definition a collective society of people united towards a common objective by law/religion/etc, a civilization doesn't have to be particularly advanced to be counted as such.

>a civilization doesn't have to be particularly advanced to be counted as such.

But that's what OP wants to know though. Why is the history of Sub-Saharan Africa so void?

Low average intelligence combined with no need to switch to agriculture to survive.

>Why is the history of Sub-Saharan Africa so void?
probably because they didn't build much with stone because they were swimming in trees to build from, and never invented any method of record keeping capable of surviving for many centuries, and all archaeological research on the continent is bent towards studying human evolution rather than ancient african societies

Lions been keeping the black man down since the beginning of time. Lions regularly kill African fathers leaving their children to be raised in low income single parent households. The youths often fall into "click clack" music culture which often glorifies violence, rape, and substance abuse.

I hope you know Lions were present in the Levant, Anatolia, North Africa and even Greece, probably Mesopotamia as well until the Roman empire when they went extinct because of gladiator games

When was the first civilization outside Africa, so we know what standards you're working from?

And yet they did develop agriculture.

>replying like this to a joke
You have autism.

They did though.

Not to the extent that Mesopotamians, Egyptians, Chinese, or other river people did.

They were still mostly hunter-gatherers until the 19th century.

Not true. The majority of the population has been agricultural for more than a thousand years. Like in Eurasia and America until the C19th, they were concentrated around a few densely populated areas, while hunter-gardeners 'controlled' most of the land area.

Africa was two thousand years behind Eurasia, so was America, but with different developments.

x years behind thing kinda is a null point though in general for "civilization comparisons".

We're talking about Africa specifically, not the broad swath of humanity. Africa and Africans are is uniquely shit despite its size and natural resources which requires an explanation.

Africa did not engage in concentrated agriculture that can create enough surplus to allow for state formation. The extent is less important than the concentration.

It's not an exact figure. I rarely find anyone who argues Eurasia did not have civilizations by 500 BC, and both Africa and America were more developed than this by 1500 AD.

until the story of the hunt is told from the lion's perspective, the story will always glorify the hunter

>We're talking about Africa specifically, not the broad swath of humanity. Africa and Africans are is uniquely shit despite its size and natural resources which requires an explanation.

Just to be clear, this is an explanation for why they might have developed about 5% slower than Eurasia.

>Africa did not engage in concentrated agriculture that can create enough surplus to allow for state formation. The extent is less important than the concentration.

They did engage in this level of agriculture in West Africa, East Africa, and the Rift Valley.

Why did you cut out Egypt?

They didn't develop 5% slower than Eurasia, that's a completely revisionist idea of history. Nearly all of sub-Saharan Africa did not have the wheel, two story buildings or any other resemblance of a civilization until European contact.

>Not to the extent that Mesopotamians, Egyptians, Chinese, or other river people did.
Except Islamic scholars who visited West Africa were amazed at just how productive the farms around the Niger river were.

>that filename

Europe saw agriculture in 6000 bc, didn't see literate civilization until 2000-1800 bc, West Africa saw agriculture in 2500-2100 bc, saw literate civilizations around 1100 AD

If we wanna be even more Pedantic, "White Europe" (AKA Europe - Greece & Italy) saw agriculture in 5000-4100 bc depending on the place

Didn't develop literate civilization until around 500 bc- 1000 AD depending on the place

West Africans evolved faster than Europeans, a LOT faster than white ones

>two story buildings
Are you retarded?

They did, Ghana empire, Aksum (and proably D'mt before them), Kerma, Meroe