Are there any instances where the ends justify the means?

Are there any instances where the ends justify the means?

Communism

It is worth baking a cake because you then have a cake to eat.

What kind of stupid ass question is this?

nukes on Japan

each act in itself must be the justification, not what comes after. Unless were artists

Negative. The use of nukes brought about the nuclear arms race, and the anti-war campaigns from the 1960s. It would have been much better had Truman and his buddies just let the Japs starve.

>im a coward who cant stand up for his country and instead wants to be remembered as Stalinists
stay out of warfare

Each act has an intended consequence. The question is, does that intended consequence justify the act?

>someone brings up a logical point
>wow u sound like an unpatriotic coward

Despite the unnecessary amount of nazi threads, please understand that is over there and not here.

Yes, but if you actually buy into that philosophy as a general rule to live by then you're asking for trouble.

warfare is not philosophical or political it is art. You philistine.
the death of war criminals and the government that supports them is always approved.

Actually the demonstration of the nukes and their widespread perception as a war-ending tactic is probably what gave them the aura of menace needed to keep idiots from underestimating their potential and deploying them as conventional weapons. And do keep in mind we almost did just that anyway.

Caeser did nothing wrong.

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Unanswerable question

Anyone giving an answer and the OP asking that answer is an idiot.

>justify

How can you claim that some act is good or bad without appeals to consequence for beings that can feel good or bad?

Yes, all.

Only h*mans think in those terms

French Revolution

Japanese human experimentation.

Evolution by natural selection.

well for starters, "justice" doesn't exist

Any instance you can name

playing vidya