Why does nobody talk about the 1919 German revolution? I was shocked to read about this

Why is /pol/ so autistic when it comes to communism and WWII?

"hurr there were 2 world wars idiot, why are you talking about the first world war? i suppose you think the vietnam war is also the same as ww1"

Nice argument, you bumbling idiot

>what are you talking about faggot? whats the fact there were many revolutions got to do with one specific revolution im talking about?
You're talking about the spartacist uprising, which is a subrevolution of the german revolution. The german revolution, which happened when the fate of the war was sealed anyway, started when sailors were sent on a suicide mission and revolted. The spartacist uprising was a communist revolution against the socialist government post war. Try reading the article you posted.
We have a brainwashed /pol/tard per week doing this shit, stop wasting our time.

>And yes, the communist revolutions in Russia were also hugely Jewish inspired.
I don't know what this means. Jews were overrepresented to a degree but judaism played no role in the revolution.

>Karl marx, leon trostky, lenin, all JEWS despite being less than 1% of Russian population.
Marx was a protestant born, antisemitic atheist that married a protestant noble in a protestant church, had non jewish children, had a german best friend, and whose intellectual influences were virtually all europeans (hegel, aristotle, stirner, feuerbach, smith, etc.). Lenin wasn't jewish even by nazi standards and believed in a christian god until his father died and he became an atheist.

Why doesn't /pol/ ever get angry at Erich Ludendorff for directly funding the Bolsheviks in hopes that they'd destabilize Russia? Also, why does /pol/ pretend to care about slavic Christians being oppressed by the USSR when Hitler wanted to kill those same people to make room for lebensraum? The best outcome for slavic Christians would have been if Germany had lost WW1 more quickly, so that Russia never collapses and the Bolsheviks never have a chance to take over.

>lenin and Marx werent ethnic Jews

Wew lad

You mean Khazars.

Marx was ethnically jewish, which is irrelevant unless you think /pol/'s conspiracy is transmitted genetically. Lenin wasn't.

They covered this in my 20th century European history class at university including that it was primarily lead by Jews.

>karl marx wasnt Jewish

"Marx was ancestrally Jewish as his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier's rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx."

Doesnt get more Jewy than that

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but whites enslaved blacks, and germans killed Jews regardless of their religion. Was this "transmitted genetically"?
What are you even trying to say? that you need to have the same religion to be a part of a group?

Why so much ridiculous mental gymnastics to accept that Jews, just like other groups can unite and fight against people. We dont hear the end of it with regards to whites doing poorly to other groups. But 'hurr only his blood was Jewish"
Grow up, you brainwashed in-denial fool

>but whites enslaved blacks, and germans killed Jews regardless of their religion. Was this "transmitted genetically"?
Yes, nazis killed people based on genes. Are you retarded?

>What are you even trying to say? that you need to have the same religion to be a part of a group?
>Why so much ridiculous mental gymnastics to accept that Jews, just like other groups can unite and fight against people.
Again, are you retarded? Neither marx nor lenin were part of any group related to judaism. You are the one performing mental gymnastics while trying to explain how people who were in no way related to judaism in their actual life could be part of a jewish conspiracy just because of their genes. In fact, the most consistent stormfags realize this problem and do believe that the conspiracy is in their genes, as retarded as that is.

Jews are an ethnoreligious group. Do you know what that means? it means you can be an atheist and still be Jewish. Many Jews in Israel are athetist, they're still jewish
Holy shit how can you talk with such confidence, yet be so wrong.

And I wasnt saying Hitler didnt kill based on genetics. Thats a strawman argument, faggot
I said, just because you dont have a particular religious belief doesnt mean you cant belong to a group i.e ethnic group, which is capable of uniting or rebelling against another group that they feel they do not belong to.

you're like one of these arrogant pseudo intellect leftist college professors who belittle people every time they open their mouth, giving strawman arguments

who said a conspiracy is in their genes? As i said before, which you TOTALLY ignored and provided a strawman argument for. I said, whites enslaved blacks yes? is this a conspiracy in their genes? or just simply a group of people who belong to a shared ethnic bloodline who united together and oppressed another group? right? so why wouldnt Jews be capable of the same thing? the whites enslaving blacks didnt all strictly believe in christianity, so why use that as a rebuttal that Jews are incapable of uniting in a group, just because they dont believe in judaism. its almost as if you think jews are just a religious group, and not an ethnoreligious group
If thats the case i dont even know why im debating with you, and you should probably open a book before jumping headfirst into a debate about this stuff, implying you know what you're talking about.

Are you on the spectrum? Spartacist Uprising has nothing to do with why Germany lost WW1 considering it was a revolution against the nascent Weiwar government

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

It spanned over the course of the second world war and post war, idiot. Its even known that Germany aggreed to armistice because of their own internal conflicts.

Do me a favour. Click this link

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19

and see that the revolution spanned from 1918 to 1919, which means during and after ww1.

Are you mentally challenged?

>Jews are an ethnoreligious group. Do you know what that means? it means you can be an atheist and still be Jewish. Many Jews in Israel are athetist, they're still jewish
We are not talking about what is possible retard, we are talking about concrete people. Neither Marx nor Lenin were culturally jews.

>I said, just because you dont have a particular religious belief doesnt mean you cant belong to a group i.e ethnic group, which is capable of uniting or rebelling against another group that they feel they do not belong to.
Can you be part of an ethnic group and unite to fight for it if you don't have any actual relation to that group (and in the case of marx hate it)? How, exactly? Is it through magical jewish transmitters that allowed them to participate in the great jewish hivemind? The case of Lenin must be particularly magical, given that he didn't even know he had a converted jewish grandparent and grew up as a believing christian.

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its called ethnic identity, not some magical transmitters. once again, you're providing some condescending stawman arugment, implying its IMPOSSIBLE for one ethnicgroup to belong or be loyal, unite together, yet its possible for Whites when they do something bad.

Its like I cant get simple information into your head. You just keep saying "hahah you think its some magical powers or something hurrr"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_myth

The stab-in-the-back myth (German: Dolchstoßlegende, pronounced [ˈdɔlçʃtoːsleˌɡɛndə] (About this sound listen))[1] was the notion, widely believed in right-wing circles in Germany after 1918, that the German Army did not lose World War I on the battlefield but was instead betrayed by the civilians on the home front, especially the republicans who overthrew the monarchy in the German Revolution of 1918–19

Know why it's called a myth?

>who said a conspiracy is in their genes?
It is the logical consequence of your retarded conspiracy, as it is the only thing those people you mention have in common with jews.

>I said, whites enslaved blacks yes? is this a conspiracy in their genes? or just simply a group of people who belong to a shared ethnic bloodline who united together and oppressed another group?
The equivalent of marx and lenin if we substitute jews and whites for whites and blacks respectively would be a white guy that spent his entire life with black people, married black people, had black children and friends, and wrote constantly against whites being accused of being a white supremacist, and a 3/4 black guy that doesn't even know he's 1/4 white being accused retroactively of being a white supremacist by retards. Moreover, these people that spent their entire lives among blacks are accused of being part of a conspiracy with people they had basically no contact with. Is that clearer for you?

>Hitler didn't kill based on genetics.

What education system produced you?

Germany lost from logistical issues, supplies both militarily and domestically for civilians. Pure and simple.

But people do talk about the 1919 Revolution. Sure, at best in a HS or basic college class you'll get maybe Freikorps or a disconnected reference to Rosa Luxemburg (don't know why academic communists are so obsessed with her); I can understand though that those courses tend to compress history and that's not relevant to the American narrative of it in anyway. Inflation = Hitler, Hitler = holocaust + remilitarism, yes, anything else approaches being too complex. Most people never learn about the Russian-German treaty and how Germany was in control of a lot of Eastern European territory, essentially the same territory they sought to conquer in WWII during the end of WWI.

But for that matter how many normies know anything about the Revolutions of 1848?

>(don't know why academic communists are so obsessed with her)
Because she was one of only major socialist-communist figures at the time who condemned Bolshevism outright

Why do /pol/ retards think it was some kind of jewish communist conspiracy, when in reality is was the people forming a republic, and the communist party was a small group that failed?

You're a special kind of stupid, user. There is no ethnic identity because neither participated in any jewish groups. The only thing marx had in common with jews was his genes, and not even that in the case of lenin. So yes, their participation in a conspiracy is necessarily magical.

>implying its IMPOSSIBLE for one ethnicgroup to belong or be loyal, unite together, yet its possible for Whites when they do something bad.
You're hallucinating shit I never said now. It is impossible for people that don't belong to an ethnic group in any way except genetically to be part of a conspiracy with said group. And no, hitler or slaver's actions are not the act of some white hivemind.

good goy

lol mental gymnastics 101

Great argument, faggot.

They get their history from infographs.

>Abloo-bloo my offensives failed, this is obviously the Jews and socialists fault, not mine
Fuck off Ludendorff you fat hack

> I wasnt saying Hitler didnt kill based on genetics
>you link this post and conclude i said Hitler didn't kill based on genetics.
>mentions education system being bad

If i said I never said i didnt like apples
and you replied with wtf why dont you like apples? haha you must be dumb!

Doesnt that make you sound like you're drooling from the mouth level retarded?

>the republicans who overthrew the monarchy in the German Revolution of 1918–19
The republicans that overthrew the monarchy aren't the JOOS you are sperging about, you hopeless retard.

read the fucking wikipedia page moron. The stab in the back theory is an anti-semitic theory. Why would that be if they were just republicans? failtard

>And yes, the communist revolutions in Russia were also hugely Jewish inspired.

yes goy, just those pesky ethnic german republicans! kek

It's not a fucking theory, it's the deluded ramblings of a shit Field Marshall and not even solely focused on Jews, it blames fucking everyone except Ludendorff

>16%
>less than 2% of Russian population
thats an 800% overreprenstation.

"B-but they're just smart user! no conspiring whatsoever!"

Germany didn't lose the war because the revolution happened. The revolution happened because Germany lost the war.
You seem to think that a 1919 revolution affected a war that ended in 1918, so you're obviously almost completely ignorant of the history of that time. I'll try to help with that.
The communist revolution in winter 1918-1919 was relatively small and quickly put down by the Weimar government.
You're confusing two revolutions. The first revolution, which ended the wartime government, was not a communist revolution. It had communist elements, but was much more broadly based than that. It also had strong social democratic elements. This first revolution did not cause Germany to lose the war. By the time it started, German armies were broken on the West front and were retreating toward Germany's borders. The supply situation was terrible. America was now backing the French and English armies. Germany had a few months left, at best, before it would be occupied by the Allied powers. The Kaiser realized that, asked the Allies for an armistice (cease-fire), and stepped down from power. However, the leader of Germany's main fleet decided that he would give the war one last go, and ordered one last attack on the English navy. At this point, German sailors thought the war was over and saw no point throwing their lives away for a hopeless cause, so they refused to carry out the orders. This triggered social upheavals all across Germany. The new government that emerged was dominated by the Social Democrats, led by Friedrich Ebert.
The second revolution was the actual communist revolution. It was an attempt by the communists to take the place of the Social Democrats as the chief political force in the nation. The non-communists decisively won after a short period of fighting, and communist revolution was never a serious threat again in the Weimar Republic.

Cont.
Yes, the communist revolution had a heavy Jewish component. However, it was not some well-planned centrally organized blow against the state. It was a dumb, poorly prepared move that never had much hope of succeeding. The two main communist leaders, Liebknecht and Luxemburg (Luxemburg being the most prominent Jew in the movement), were against the idea of taking up arms at that point in time, and the revolution got both of them rapidly killed.
The communist revolution had nothing to do with Germany losing WW1.
I also suspect that you probably think Weimar Germany was some sort of communist-leaning state. It wasn't. The Weimar government was the government that suppressed the communist revolution. Hitler didn't overthrow a communist government. He overthrew the government that had overthrown the communist government.

>Jews were less than 1% of the Russian population
Actually it had the largest Jewish population in the world at one point.

It's worth noting the Weimar government was the one that started the whole rearmament thing

>Jews sabotaged Russia so that Russia would lose the war
>Jews sabotaged Germany so that Germany would lose the war

So they sabotaged both sides of the same war?

The incredible thing here is, that people are finding a way to attack op based on when the revolution occured, yet totally ignore the fact it was basically a jewish uprising, and happened when Germany was at its weakest point, in this case just after ww1, but the revolutions origins are from ww1, even resulting in a German armistace. Thats some serious denial of reality just to redirect at some other silly argument about dates.

Because hitler accused the social democrats of being part of a jewish conspiracy. Which is obviously wrong as far as the leaders are concerned, as you can see yourself.
user, you obviously have no idea of what you are talking about besides what you saw in some /pol/ memes. Why don't you try taking a step back, realize how stupid you are being, and actually read a book on the subject.
Look, I even made you a small graph for /pol/tards since you seem to be allergic to reading.

Very rarely do movements exactly represent their populations in the exact same proportion to their demographics.

Regardless, the point is it wasn't some great Jewish conspiracy. It was mostly composed of Slavs.

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The Weimar government did some covert re-arming but they weren't spending 70% of the national budget on weapons programs.

Well they realized that would be stupid

Yes, all the republican leaders were germans. You can see it in your own /pol/tard infograph in the OP. Of course, for that you would need to understand which ones are the republicans, and you obviously don't.

lelelele XDDD hahahahaha LOLOLOL le epikly meme'd dood XDDD!!!!

of course. they wanted power and the easiest best opportunity to do that is when the main country is fighting a world war. Just like Jews profited off the the privatization of Russia during the 1991 USSR collapse. Just like they profited after ww1, buying up European art hence why hitler "looted" the art back off jews during ww2

If anything it shows their nature is even more consistent. They dont give a fuck about ethnic christian Russians or Germans or who wins. Its their opportunity to leech off a people when they are on their knees.

Those damn pacifists!

The Great Jewish conspiracy went out of their way to create the Soviet Union and then they destrooyed. What a bunch of tards.

>4 million Entente troops coming from the West
>2 million Italians coming from the South
>800 thousand Romanians coming from the East
>650 thousand Serbians coming from the Southeast
>we didn't lose guys,its the jews fault

>Just like Jews profited off the the privatization of Russia during the 1991 USSR collapse

and now literally 6 out of 7 main oligarchs in Russia are JEWISH, i shit you not.

yes goyim, nothing to see here.

Maybe because the Jews hated the Tsar's regime? Look up the pogroms in Russia, especially Kishinev and Bialystok.

it was coming down anyway. they liquidated it and grabbed what they could from it.

actually they say that when Germany surrendered, they actually had an upper hand in the war. Britain and France was pretty much decimated at that stage.

yes im not saying they dont have a reason. But the first step is acknowledging it. reasoning/justification is a different subject.

>when Germany surrendered, they actually had an upper hand
>this is your brain on /pol/ memes

Do you have any proof? Or is this just postulating. Do you even live in any former SSRs? Do you know anything about their politics?

As compared to, maybe/ Germany was still devastated.

>Germans were still in France and Belgium and that means they were winning
It's not 1871 anymore

>But the first step is acknowledging it
Nobody ever denied a a jewish overrepresentation, it's the conspiracy which is retarded. The fact that you have been told shit about the german revolution and lenin's involvement with judaism, for example, should give you a hint to the kind of lies you're been programmed to repeat like a drone.

look at the main oligarchs in russia today. They are the ones who profited over the 1991 USSA privatization. tell me how they are all Jewish then? coincidence?
Are jews INCAPABLE of any coordinated organized decisions that could be at the expense of others? Hilarious. "Whitey is bad but jews are ALWAYS innocent, like clockwork. and when they're bad, they're not ACTUALLY jewish, they were just born Jewish but converted to christianity which therefore gives them the ability to do wrong"

This is your brain on blue pills

who said Lenin was a religious Jew? hes an ethnic Jew.. Are all the millions of atheist ethnic Jews in Israel not Jewish either? or just your Jewish mass murdering christian butchering communist idols?

>when Germany surrendered, they actually had an upper hand in the war

This is what winning looks like?

Oh god, so you're still claiming that someone that was born and grew up a believing christian and didn't even know he had a single converted jewish grand parent magically was part of the conspiracy. I hope at some point you realize how retarded the shit you've been brainwashed with is.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-Judaism

rypto-Judaism is the secret adherence to Judaism while publicly professing to be of another faith; practitioners are referred to as "crypto-Jews" (origin from Greek kryptos - kρυπτός, 'hidden'). The term crypto-Jew is also used to describe descendants of Jews who maintain some Jewish traditions of their ancestors while publicly adhering to other faiths.
"hur but it says hes a blood jew with christian beliefs, so him as well as the dozens of ethnic jews, who comprise less than 1% of a society being a part of a Jewish conspiracy is impossible!
The things people will do to avoid the truth. Are you the same mental gymnastics faggot?

look up crypto jew. they actually hid their religious beliefs even converted to avoid persecution or suspicion. Marx's family come from a huge tradition of rabbis ffs. RABBIS.

>They were secretly jews! I swear!!!!!!!

its not secret idiot. Jesus i cant believe how much you can avoid accepting something simple. they were blood jews and you even admitted it, but you said that since they converted they were no longer Jewish, ignoring the fact that jews arent just a religious group, but an "ethnoreligious group"

I provide an extensive wiki page that shows the widespread histroy of jews converting to christianity to avoid persecution or suspicion, and you say "hahah so you think they'[re SECRETLY jewish"

Wow.. this level of denial, strawman and bluepill is almost repulsive to witness

So your argument is that lenin's family lied to every single person they knew their entire life and actually had arbitrarily decided to adopt the religion of the only (converted) jew of the family, despite not knowing about it and despite having been christian monarchist serfs, in the hopes that their son would be part of a conspiracy. Of course, this not being supported by any single piece of evidence.
But accepting that it was a christian family whose son became a communist after reading marx is mental gymnastics.

Can you point to any evidence of marx's involvement with judaism? That is, besides the antisemitic rants he wrote.

>look at the main oligarchs in russia today. They are the ones who profited over the 1991 USSA privatization. tell me how they are all Jewish then? coincidence?
I don't know shit about russia. But as usual, it seems stormfags are exaggerating an overrepresentation that exists:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_people_by_net_worth

The Entente should have pushed to Berlin and only accept unconditional surrender.

Putin era. The most famous oligarchs of the Putin era include Roman Abramovich, Alexander Abramov, Oleg Deripaska, Mikhail Prokhorov, Alisher Usmanov, German Khan, Viktor Vekselberg, Leonid Mikhelson, Vagit Alekperov, and still Mikhail Fridman, Vladimir Potanin, Pyotr Aven and Vitaly Malkin.

im talking about the specific oligarchs.
look those people up.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarch

The Russian oligarchs (see the related term "New Russians") are wealthy businessmen of the former Soviet republics who rapidly accumulated wealth during the era of Russian privatization in the aftermath of the dissolution of the Soviet Union in the 1990s.

im not talking about just general people of net worth, sigh smdh. are you people actually dumb?

>yet totally ignore the fact it was basically a jewish uprising
What does it matter if it was a heavily Jewish uprising? People have uprisings all the time, the Jews included. Just because an uprising is heavily Jewish doesn't mean there's some sort of central Jewish conspiracy pulling the strings, or any of those Nazi theories. The 1919 communist revolution in Germany was poorly planned and quickly beaten, not exactly what one would expect from a world-spanning conspiratorial movement. And if there was no great conspiracy, and it was just a heavily Jewish revolution, who cares? Here's the thing: if most communist revolutionary leaders were Jews, it doesn't mean that most Jews were communist revolutionaries. The Nazis ignored this simple bit of logic and blamed Jews as a whole for what some Jews did. The Nazis also ignored the fact that communism was already beaten in Germany, and used its supposed threat as part of their justification to seize the state machinery and create a regime as murderous as any regime that communists ever erected. They destroyed the very government that had beaten the communists in the first place.
>but the revolutions origins are from ww1, even resulting in a German armistace
The communists and Jews didn't lose Germany the war. The idea is completely absurd to anyone who follows military history. Germany lost the war because of its failure to beat the Allied armies on the West Front, its failure to lift the Allied naval blockade, and the entry of America into the war. Heck, communists were responsible for pulling Russia out of the war, which helped Germany.

no goy! theres nothing to see here! Can mods delete this anti-semetic nonsense! there have been some really good goyim in this thread, but this links are now blatantly anti-semetic! SHUT IT DOWN!

>a few leader of a revolution 25 years ago were jewish

Woah, we better genocide Jews, Poles, Disabled people, Russians, and Free masons!

Jesus it looks like a tel aviv phone book. WTF are ethnic russians that cucked?

>They were secretly jews! I swear!!!!!!!!!!!

>Russians were genocided.
Nice meme faggot. Did your Jewish professor tell you that hilter killed anyone who didnt have blue eyes and blond hair? they went to war with Russia, they didnt genocide anyone they could find. The work camps were mostly for Jews and dissidants, not the entire Eastern Europe being genocided. hahahahaha.

"But hitler wanted to murder everyone! hes evvvullllll!!! the precious innocent jews!"

The revolution happened because the Germans were losing, the Germans weren't losing because of the revolution. You have the causation reversed.

Magnificent post user. Those 20 million Russians dead must have just croaked over right?

but wouldnt the revolution cause the germans to lose the war even faster? therefore the causation is irrelevant. OP said the revolution caused them to lose the war. He didnt say why the revolution occured.

then explain why 2 million Soviet POW's died? 3 million poles? 1.5 million Ukrainians?

>war is genocide.

really makes me think.

4 million Germans died, including huge amounts of POWs does that mean Russia genocided Germany too?