Can Veeky Forums tell me about the history of Ukraine

Can Veeky Forums tell me about the history of Ukraine.

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It's part of Russia. Kiev was the center of early Russia

nazi sympathizing kulaks who betrayed the Soviet Union to kill Poles and Jews

>Kievan Rus
>Get's MONGOL'd
>Ruthenian duke sells his lands to Poland, before the rest is conquered by Mongols
>Mongol lands are conwured by Lithuanians
>Fast forward to XVII century
>At this point Ukraine belongs to the Commonwealth, and Ruthenian nobility is fully polonised
>Ukraine is populated by Cossaks - crazy rednecks who descend from Polish/Russian runaway bandits
>Poland forms a "register" of Cossaks - a list of them who are taken to fight against Ottomans and get money from it
>Because Poland had lately peaceful relations with Ottomans, and because nobles didn't like king having powerful army, Cossack register must be reduced
>Cossacks are mad, because they won't get money
>In 1648 they rebel, led by Bohdan Kmielnitsky, who leads the rebellion, because he's mad he got cucked by a Polish noble
>Rebellion is succesfull at start, Cossacks even reach Zamosc
>After defeat at Berestechko in 1651, Cossacks sign a truce
>In 1654, Khmielnitsky gets a wonderful idea
>Let's ask tsar of Russia for help, what bad could happen
>Russians take part of Polish Ukraine, supressing Cossaks even more than Poles
>Fast forward to 1768
>Russian agents provoke another Cossack uprising in the dying Commonwealth, Koliyivshchyna
>Cossacks take the bait, go around slaughtering civilians (not the last time in history), eventually get btfo by Poles and Russians
>Fast forward to 1918
>At this point Ukrainians and Poles live under German and Austrian occupation
>Austrians support the birth of Ukrainian nationalism, wanting easy rule over equal numbers of Poles and Ukrainians
>But this is 1918, countries get their independence
>Poles and Ukrainians fight for Lviv, a city with Polish majority
>Ukrainian elite Sich riflemen get defeated by Polish underage students
>But then Bolsheviks arrive
>Ukrainians under Petlura side with Poles against communist threat
>After Polish-Bolshevik war tho, Ukraine loses independence
>tbc

>Ukrainians in interwar Poland don't have it that bad, but they love to complain
>Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, Ukrainians can't complain
>Not because they're fine tho, their either dead from Holodomor, killed by Cheka/NKVD, or alive, but not allowed to talk
>1939 happens
>Polish Ukrainians, thinking how horrible was inability to learn Ukrainian at school, welcome Soviets as liberators
>1941 happens
>After learning that Soviets are not so great authorities, Polish Ukrainians welcome Nazi Germans as liberators
>At first Germans don't give a shit what Ukrainians think, but soon, they find in them a good material for cannon fodder
>They support Ukrainian partisans against hostile Poles
>In 1943 Ukrainian organisations OUN and UPA organise the ethnic cleansing of Vohlynia region
>Ukrainians rape, drown, burn alive, quarter, behead tens of thousands Polish women and children
>Polish resistance answers
>There is an all-out war between Polish and Ukrainian partisans
>Eternal kraut laughs in the distance
>But then the Soviets arrived
>They destroy everyone - Nazi Germans, Polish partisans and Ukrainian partisans
>After Yalta negotians, all of Polish Vohlynia gets in Soviet hands
>Soviets don't want to deal with Ukrainian genocidal autism, so together with communist Poles, they deport thousands Ukrainans to western Polish lands, former German, and Polonise them during so called "Action Vistula"
>Ukrainians love to cry about it to this day
>1991 happens
>Gorbachev loves Ukrainians so much grants them independence and gives them a present in form of Crimea peninsula
>Not telling more because of 25 year rule

>Bolsheviks
>Bolsheviks
>Bolsheviks

* Soviets
* Russians

what a shit history

>Kiev Rus
>Russia
L O L

saved

Partizans wasn't commies?
Also, 212197312 years of slavery.

>Kiev was the center of early Russia
t. Muscovite Mongol Rapebabby.

Not all of them

Fuck off krautnigger.

>slavs live there
>snow niggers invade
>mongols invade
>incredibly hot slavic/nordic/asian chicks are created by all the rape

You're welcome.

le nordik rape XD

except there is no fucking evidence for it, cuck

Laugh, laugh while you may. We will see who is rapebaby.

the russians obviously

Quality thread.

it gets extra depressing as it goes
i visited family a few months ago and there is still a few signs left of the protest in kiev

they are terrified of trump as right now usa is their only hope

>i visited family a few months ago and there is still a few signs left of the protest in kiev
What protest?

But the Muscovites were the ones that escaped from the Mongols by heading north. If anything, Ukrainians are the rape babies (if rape babies weren't anything more than a meme).

"mongol rapebabies" are a meme anyway
if mongols conquered something they would raze it completely and kill the entire population, including women
the principalities that escaped their wrath did so by paying tribute

its not within the 25 year gap its in 2014

>escaped
Did they?
>Surrender to Mongols
>Now you will collect tribute from other Mongol vassal states
>Roleplay as some kind of retarded version of Jews and decide to threat Novogrod, so they will too pay tribute to Mongols
>At some point rebel against Tatars
>gets raped by them

>mix of scythians, greeks, vikings and slavs
>kievan rus, mother of today's belarusians, ukrainians and rusians
>converted from paganism to christianity around 1000 b.c.
>1100-1200 kievan rus breaks into small fragments
>Golden Horde attacks soon after
>South and East Ukraine occupied by mongols
>North and West stay independent
>Taken over by Poland-Lithuania in the 14th century
>gradually drive back mongols/tatars from ukraine, crimea stays kebab for a few centuries
>15th, 16th century serfs (halfway between slavs and freemen) run away from polish landlords and settle on the steppes of Ukraine. They are called Cossacks (which means freemen).
>Cossacks form self governing communities
>eventually they unite to the cossack hetmanate led by the hetman/general
>17th century western ukraine came under polish domination, while eastern ukraine came under russian domination
>18th century, catherine the great decides to absorb easter ukraine into russia and abolishes the cossack hetmanate.
>poland declines in 18th century and russia and austria take ukrainian land.
>ukraine mostly under firm control of russia in 19th century
>nationalism rises
>1918, russia gets cucked by germany. ukraine becomes independent.
>ukrainian state is very fragile with lots of internal confilcts
>russian bolsheviks/red army use this moment to force ukraine into the soviet union.
>stalin wants to collectivize farms in easter ukraine, one of the most fertile lands on the planet.
>ukrainian peasants resist bitterly, even slaughtering their own lifestock instead of handing it over to the muscovite communist state.
>stalin gets mad
>1932 collective farms are given completely unrealistic quotas to fill. soviet law decrees that the peasants are not allowed to keep any grain until they have met their quotas.
>holodomor (genocide of ukrainians) happens, 10 million people die.
>stalin begins russification of eastern ukrainian territories (today eastern ukraine and southern russia)

>1937/39 stalin unleashes purges in which many ukrainians get executed or sent to prison camps
> 1941 invaded by germans, some ukrainians rather team up with nazis than stay under communist rule - partly because of promises by hitler to give some autonomy to ukrainians. these promises are not met and nationalistic ukrainians wage guerilla war against the germans.
>1943 red army takes over ukraine once again
>purges against everyone stalin deemed disloyal
>all crimean tatars are deported to siberia in efforts of further russification of southern territories
>1986 chernobyl
>late 1980s ukrainian nationalism rises
>1991 soviet union colapses

Bump

Is it true Ukrainians clame to be the heroes of Vienna? There are like two statues of cossacks there even though only like 100 went with Sobieski (who has no statues himself). Is Ukrainian lobby so strong?


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Best ukrainian coming through.

Wasn't there a war in there somewhere? Possibly in the 19th century?

>fascist bandit who used the chaos of the civil war to rob peasants and extort the Red Army
so this is the power of Ukrainians.... whoa

there was an uprising in 1683, whose organisers recognised Ukraine officialy as a third member of the insurgent Commonwealth, but it's hard to call it officialy a war. Insurgents didn't hold permanently vast territories, and whole uprising was just a series of partisan skirmishes that lasted up to next year

Just realized I was thinking of the Crimean War. Which I also know nothing about.

>But the Muscovites were the ones that escaped from the Mongols by heading north.
Moscow only became relevant because the Mongols used the city as a tax collection center.

In any event, you'll find very little if any Mongol DNA in either Ukrainians or Russians of today in former Kievan Rus territory.

You missed Mazepa going from trusted advisor of Peter the Great to rebelling and siding with the Swedes before they got wrecked at Poltava. That was Ukraine's last chance at independence before 1918.

They're dickheads with an enormous persecution complex who've never accomplished anything

It's the new Yugoslavia

Jesus Christ this is an imageboard

Peter I was so buttblasted by Mazepa's betrayal that he specially created for him a medal of Judas.
t. brainlet

>In any event, you'll find very little if any Mongol DNA in either Ukrainians or Russians of today in former Kievan Rus territory.
>very little
enough

The spawnpoint of all Slavs. Notorious spawn campers. Squat at spawn OP.

>The spawnpoint of all Slavs
it was western belarus and eastern poland

In decades (and centuries) after 1650s many Commonwealth people wanted Ruthenia to join the union but something always went in the way.

>Rus = Russian
Unironically kill yourself

Admit the truth, kurwa

>same realm
>speaking same language
>ruled by same dynasty
>having same religion
NUH NOT THE SAME MUH ANCIENT UKRAINIANS
Literally kill yourself you troglodyte, this is some Hitlerboo-level historical revisionism.

It has literally nothing to do with Yugoslavia, apart that both regions endured a recent conflict

This, Ukrainians are just russians in denial

The Moscovites started calling themselves Russians much later because of the prestige of the name.