What happened to the German speaking parts of Poland and Kaliningrad?

What happened to the German speaking parts of Poland and Kaliningrad?

Did they genocide them?
Did

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No, most of them were deported.

Damn. That's ethnic cleansing...

Most of them evacuated during the war or were deported after that.

shut the fuck up brainlet

They did the same and worse to Poles during the war.

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You knew this answer before you created the thread, just a /pol/tard trying to bait people.

Sage and abandon thread

Wait. Prove him wrong...

>Go to book store
>Only ww2 books

>Turn on TV
>Only ww2

>Go on the internet
>Only ww2

When will we finally stop mass producing ww2 conent? Littrary in every book store the bookshelfs are filled with Hitler this and Hitler that. Can't I just get to read something else?

Ops, wrong thread

good?

Those poor Germans, having to go and live in Germany

Most were deported, some in the rural areas were simply urged to change their name and language asap. There is still a minority of germans in Oppeln, so they didnt kill or drive out all of them.
As germans were an existential threat to them, collective punishment such as the prague massacre was completely logical to do in order to achieve homogenity and be secure in the future.,

ww2 is trash food of history for normies

What's going on here?

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More like cleaning your new home from dangerous animals.

This.

German "civilians" behaved like terrorists.

Executuions of the G*rm bandits during (or shortly after) Prague uprising by the Revolutionary Guards, Czechoslovak police (guy in black uniform) and probably Red army.

*Executions

Do it again, Edvard Benes.

418/3 = 139
139×100= 13900
That's about the capacity of Auschwitz I, Auschwitz II- Birkenau had a capacity of about 50.000, but went on to house about four times that.

Those few that remained in Koenigsberg after aerial and artillery bombardment, evacuation and famine willingly got the fuck out of there the moment Soviet government let them do it.

Czechs, poles, hungarians and others are living on what is rightful germanic clay. Let the french have what is beyond the rhine, let the italians have what is beyond bavaria.
but give us back all that land, on which those wretched slavs live upon, so that we live in what is our homeland, and rightfully so.

Lower races dont deserve land, G*rms should be glad for not living as Morgenthau wanted.

>we colonized it thenefore its ours!
fuck off
soon your entire rightful clay will be owned by black people and muslims

hmmmm

That's what the poster you're replying to was saying, though.

Justice.

>Stormfags are so stupid they think all Holocaust deaths happened in the camps

Soviets decided the borders should look such and such and Soviets deported Germans to make place to already deported Poles.

hey look i can do this too

that's after the map i posted though
Thus i conclude that we have a far better historical claim on those lands you claim are slavic, than you

shitty tribes that take a shit in some land and then migrate have lesser claim than agrarian societies which actually settled there
you even still use word "berlin" for your capital which means swamp in old slavic, not to mention your meme provinces like pommern which means land near sea

Ebin meme, tell me about your great history and culture that started in 1871 when you decided its better to hate Whites than each other.
this

>americans going on about muh white solidarity.
>country full of muh 1/64th cherokee.

is that the reason why you named the vistula after what saxons called it? i see

Not to mention, those so very populated land was so easily colonized simply because nobody lived there. Historically, eastern europe always had low density, even the area around warsaw.

>Romans were Saxons

>this cheekis the breeki

And you will always live miserable and your children are nonexistant
Russian dashcam videos are a better portrayal of slavs than your pictures ever will be

*are a better portrayal of real life

Wew lad, imagine thinking that every person that hates Kraut is Russian/Slav. Go to sleep Shit-Eater, your police could arrest you for rasism.

Well in my experience, it's basically...
>Brits forcing Reddit Harris
>French who want to annex the Rhineland
>Slavs who are butthurt (redundant)

Occasionally an Amerifat will take up one of the previous 3 causes based on memes.

Every reasonable person hates the Germs, even Germs themselves, you should do the same.

Your parents should have spaced your vaccines further apart.

Your mother should have married Jamal.

That's a rather autismal non-sequitur.

the tribes you posted have nothing to do with germans, genetically nor culturally

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksdeutscher_Selbstschutz
>Poland was illegally oppressing it's German minor-

they were re-Slavicized

>re-Slavicized
>re
They were Germanic before they were Slavic, Celtic before they were Germanic, etc etc. Stop acting as if history began in the 6th Century.

but you can't deny they were Slavic at some point
it's not like this is a completely new development
if Germans started speaking some Celtic language, they would be re-Celticized

True. I was assuming that by saying "re-Slavicised" you were implying that they were always Slavic lands until the Germans stole them.

who? eastern "germans" ? no, they were always slavs role-playing as prussians and then germans.

the DDR was the only logical thing that came out of the postwar Soviet order

So? Elbe Slavs were just Germanics roleplaying as Polabians.

This can be repeated ad infinitum. History didn't start in the 6th Century.

>Elbe Slavs were just Germanics roleplaying as Polabians.
care to provide evidence for that claim?

Slavics lived in the Elbe region. Germanics settled there and Germanised the remaining Slavs. Therefore, according to you, it is justified calling East Germans Slavs roleplaying as Germans.

Germanics lived in the Elbe region before the Slavs. Slavics settled there and Slavicised the remaining Slavs. Therefore, according to your logic, it is justified calling Elbe Slavs Germanics roleplaying as Polabians.

Again, this process can be repeated ad infinitum. History didn't begin in the 6th Century and you have no claim to East Germany based on the fact that the Slavic tongue and culture (which weren't even Polish) used to predominate there for a few centuries.

now let's look at the actual study, not some gymnastics.

nature.com/ejhg/journal/v21/n4/abs/ejhg2012190a.html

>Homogeneous Proto-Slavic genetic substrate and/or extensive mixing after World War II were suggested to explain homogeneity of contemporary Polish paternal lineages. Alternatively, Polish local populations might have displayed pre-war genetic heterogeneity owing to genetic drift and/or gene flow with neighbouring populations. Although sharp genetic discontinuity along the political border between Poland and Germany indisputably results from war-mediated resettlements and homogenisation, it remained unknown whether Y-chromosomal diversity in ethnically/linguistically defined populations was clinal or discontinuous before the war. In order to answer these questions and elucidate early Slavic migrations, 1156 individuals from several Slavic and German populations were analysed, including Polish pre-war regional populations and an autochthonous Slavic population from Germany. Y chromosomes were assigned to 39 haplogroups and genotyped for 19 STRs. Genetic distances revealed similar degree of differentiation of Slavic-speaking pre-war populations from German populations irrespective of duration and intensity of contacts with German speakers. Admixture estimates showed minor Slavic paternal ancestry (~20%) in modern eastern Germans and hardly detectable German paternal ancestry in Slavs neighbouring German populations for centuries. BATWING analysis of isolated Slavic populations revealed that their divergence was preceded by rapid demographic growth, undermining theory that Slavic expansion was primarily linguistic rather than population spread. Polish pre-war regional populations showed within-group heterogeneity and lower STR variation within R-M17 subclades compared with modern populations, which might have been homogenised by war resettlements. Our results suggest that genetic studies on early human history in the Vistula and Oder basins should rely on reconstructed pre-war rather than modern populations.

This. The most of German colonizers died because of plagues. The modern Eastern "Germans" are descendants of germanized Slavic peasants who avoided the plague.

>Admixture estimates showed minor Slavic paternal ancestry (~20%) in modern eastern Germans
>20%
So in other words, East Germans aren't Slavic genetically, culturally, or linguistically? How are they in any way Slavic, then?

>hardly detectable German paternal ancestry in Slavs neighbouring German populations for centuries.
Note that it specifically says "German paternal ancestry", not "Germanic paternal ancestry" or even better "pre-Slavic paternal ancestry". Simply not having German genetic influence doesn't say much about how Slavic they are.

In some regions like Saxony it's 40-65%. Berliners are probably the only East Germans with nearly no Slavic admixture.

In the case of Eastern "Germans", you can only look at their faces to realize they are Slavs in denial.

Except R1a =/= Slavic, so that image proves nothing.

if you deny slavic settlements in depopulated eastern germany(after volkswanderung) then what the fuck are we even talking about?
heydrich doesn't even look slavic, but semitic.

Picrel: Another Slav.
In Eastern Germany R1a is mostly Z280 and M458, so pretty much Slavic.
He looks like a stereotypical Czech to me.

>Piefke
Lol, even his surname sounds Slavic.

Sorry but you're wrong. R1a may peak at 40% in parts of East Germany (you may not know this since it doesn't specify it on your meme map, but the only German populations that reach 60% R1a are Slavic Sorbians), but R1a =/= Slavic. The study posted here even says that East Germans have only 20% Slavic ancestry. Stop being disingenuous.

>pretty much Slavic
Lel no, read the study your friend posted.

>swedish-like wielbark culture and other nordic-like germanics lived in poland, so that means we mutt germans(that have more in common with french, dutch and belgians) have the claim to the land
my ancestors :)

the most hilarious thing about germanics in poland is that their diet was the same as early slavs had, unlike that of the vikings that settled in poland much later.

I never said that Germans have claims to the land. I said that the entire concept of "rightful land" based on the predominate language and culture thousands of years ago is ridiculuous. Germany rightfully belongs to Germans, Poland rightfully belongs to Poles.

here, catch the one you might not know.

one of the most hardcore pan-germanists was in fact a germanised Masuarian

~20% if you include Berliners, who are definitely foreign to the land.

Also there is nearly no Scandinavian R1a in East Germany, almost only Slavic.

wasn't really aimed at you, but at people that use "muh germaniks used to live here, so it's german by right" fuckery.

same can be said for pan-slavists and other people of the sort.

Hindenburg was a Slav in denial too. He has a "stereotypical" wide "Slavic" face and short head (proper kr*uts call this "Kannisterkopf" as a way to "mock" Russians").

Reminder that the Germans were the number one victims of World War 2. Waaaaaaaaaaaay more Germans died than Jews, and that's if you believe the 6 million number (which would have been impossible).

Fair enough then, I agree

>Reminder that the Germans were the number one victims of World War 2
Are naziboos really that pathetic?

he identified himself with german culture and language so he was german, but genetically - who knows.

they should check Bismarck as well, there is a chance he might've been an Elbe Slav, which would be funny, considering his almost barbarossa-like hate for slavs.

>he identified himself with german culture and language so he was german
That's something new, nazis themselves claimed that only blood and soil matters and Jews who identified with German culture went to oven as well.

According to some more recent estimates some 1.5 million German civilians died.

DO IT AGAIN

and WW1. thanks to (((them)))

da jooooooooooooooooooooooos

who cares?

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>slavic intellect
Burgundians were defintely germanic
Markomannic and quadi were too, as they fought along other germanic tribes in the markomannic wars and then reunited with the suebi after. The gothics- not germanic? Are you really going to claim that?
The vandals were also germanic, as historians agree they likely moved from scandinavia to present day poland. They are likely the same as the lugii. Their name even comes from the german verb "wandern" "to travel". Their name "vandal" reflects their worship of Aurvandil.

So, why did i have to go on wikipedia to refute your absoulutely outrageous claim?

>germanic
>german
there is your first mistake.

also
>lugii
>germanic
there is no evidence for it.

Looks like Polish Bolsheviks killing German minorities in Poland (Danzig Massacre and Bloody Sunday)

That gif makes me cum

Not even close. It's Czechoslovakia and it's post-war.

most continental germanic tribes remained to be german, the area of continental denmark used to be westgermanic until danes took it.

oh, gee. how could that happen.

tell me again, how does that make germanics german?

>posts gopniks unnironicaly
>says Bomber Harris is Reddit
its execution of Kraut terrorist bandtits in Prague

If anything, the people that suffered between 39 and 45 were nothing but lenient towards the Germans after. That includes Stalin, yes. For Lidice alone others would have made the Vltava run red with Ubermensch blood.

Nope.
jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

I don't like your poisonous undertone in your posts. It's like you despise germans just THAT much. Don't let yourself be blinded by hate, fellow Veeky Forumsfag.

Theodisk (belonging to the people) was often used to describe a non romance speaking populance in francia, but was also used for anglo-saxons. The ancestors of germans were the west germanics, so Saxons, Thuringii, Franks, Alemannics and bavarii. This leads to the conclusion, that every continental west germanic speaking population can be german, such as the dutch, the austrians and the swiss germans. As for the east germanics, looking at how history went, the east germanics would probably also consider themselves german, as their language was very different from norse but shared similarities to west germanic. The term east germanic actually describes more their location than their language, so any crossovers are very much possible. Certainly, the norse would lump any continental germanics as "tysk", and so would every other people group in europe.

germanics weren't german. no amount of we-wuzing will change that.

>your country is so poor you have to imigrate to Poland and Czechoslovakia
>shill for Hitler
>get buttmad when they punish you after the war
And no, that video is from Czechoslovakia.

you're not very bright are you?

1. Poles were only 1-2% in Danzig at that time and Danzig was under German administration.
2.The Poles didn't have any Bolsheviks as there were no 'Polish Bolsheviks" at that time.
3. Do you really think that German majority city (98-99%) would allow Polish minority(1-2%) to kill civilians?
4. Where was the German police during the said act?

DO