What was victorian era combat like? Was it like napoleonic combat where armies would line up and shoot each other...

What was victorian era combat like? Was it like napoleonic combat where armies would line up and shoot each other, was it like WW1 with trenches and fortifications? Why didn't the franco-prussian war or US civil war degenerate into a WW1 style stalemate?

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It says a lot that Waterloo which only lasted 3 days was seen as horrific.

Was more like ww1 but on eastern front. Stalemate on the west happened because the sides had enough time and resources to fortify the entire border.

Battles were short but intense
At Borodino on 7 September 1812 Russia took as many dead as America did in the two decades of the Vietnam War

>1800s-1860s
Still line battles n shit like in Napoopan's time.

>1860s-1890s
Faster firing artillery, fast firing breech loading weapons, cavalry increasingly becoming mounted infantry, line formations giving way to looser (though still cohesive) "skirmish lines" making up firing lines, basically erryone a skirmisher.

Look up how the Franco-Prussian War was fought by the Prussians/Germans. That was how war in the latter half of the century looked like.

>What was victorian era combat like?

The 19th century in general was pretty dank.

>Why didn't the franco-prussian war or US civil war degenerate into a WW1 style stalemate?

During WW1, one of the biggest reasons for stalemates was aerial reconnaissance. It made it very difficult for either side to really surprise the other side, except in cases where one side just completely dropped the ball, like at the Battle of Tannenberg. Also relevant is the rise of the machine gun, which made attacking in general much more difficult. Bayonets, the traditional way of bringing a battle to a swift conclusion, were suddenly almost entirely useless.

This is supposedly an action shot of the French of German attackers during the Battle of Sedan.

Notice how they still advanced in columns, but dispersed and went prone when in action.

Fun fact, an early form of trench warfare was practiced in some areas on the Eastern Seaboard during the American Civil War. Not totally related to your question, I just find it interesting.

Wish we could go back to the good old days when we lined up to kill eachother
BAYONET IS A SMART FELLOW

Nothing like organized and disciplined warfare where you can still see your adversary.

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Have to include the Vietnamese dead as well, though.

Trench warfare was born almost hand in hand along with the conception of Gunpowder Artillery dating back as far as the late 13th century.

It gained as massive rise in use by the Renaissance as it was the only way to take a well defended city or fort.

Basically a lot like Napoleonic warfare except with incrementally more lethal weapons and a corresponding incrementally increased dispersion of troops.

>Waterloo which only lasted 3 days
Waterloo only lasted 8 hours. Quatre Bras and Ligny are different battles.

>Vietnam: 58,318 dead; 303,644 wounded
>Borodino 40,000–45,000 dead, wounded, and captured

What.

Most figures give Russia at Borodino 30,000 dead (out of 50,000 total Russian casualties)
So not quite Vietnam, but still half of it, in one mere day

Like asking on a history forum or something?

>Most figures give Russia at Borodino 30,000 dead (out of 50,000 total Russian casualties)
Zamoyski says it's 40.000 total, and I have a lot of faith in him.

And differentiating between wounded killed and captured in the before 1900 can't be done. Most historians don't even try it because there is no clear data anywhere to be found.

>US civil war
>not degenerating into a trench war stalemate

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