What would WW2 have looked like if it had gone on to 1950?

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Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburgh,etc. getting nuked by USAF

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How would the war last until the 1950? By starting in the mid 1940s? Nazi Germany was about to face bankrupcy in 1939 and would have collapsed if they waited longer.

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>What would WW2 have looked like if it had gone on to 1950?

>What would WW2 have looked like if it had gone on to 1950?

Assuming the Americans didn't invent the bomb? Germany would have still fallen at the same time, they were fucked and had no manpower left.

The Japs would have held on and the allies would have either went with Operation Downfall which would have been a clusterfuck of epic proportions or they would have used some nasty shit like weaponised anthrax and gas to force them into surrender.

Hitler would have entered his 60’s and pooped his pants even more frequently than he did in his 50’s. He would have gone completely gray and not been any resemblance of the hot guy who wrote Mein Kampf.

soviets would be eternally BTFOd and no civil war would have happened

cold war*

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Sweet as fuck jets everywhere

Honestly the only chance the germans had is the USA not entering the war. I know they declared war but it was a reaction because of Japan.

Since the USA doesn't enter the war the lend-lease act isn't a thing so the USSR gets weakened a lot.

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>I know they declared war but it was a reaction because of Japan.
That's a common misconception. The US were already heavily supporting the UK and would have probably done the same to the USSR. They also attacked German vessels in the Atlantic. The reason for Germany to declare war was (besides the Axis pact) to at least be able to officially engage US forces in the Atlantic.

youtube.com/watch?v=EnfvGMAPCko

If I was USA, i would have stayed "neutral" and always supported the side who is about to lose, to keep the war going, selling military gear and weakening potential rivals.
Why didn't USA do that?

Okay, but do the events leading up to ww2 also get pushed ahead 6 years? the great depression, rise of Hitler, Rhineland, Anschluss etc?
If they don't, and say Germany pauses it's territorial ambitions after the allied guarantee to Poland for six years, the war would be harder for Germany. The German economic miracle was in part possible due to taking out loans and heavily focusing on military buildup, it required a transition to a wartime economy to keep going. So Germany would've ended up with another pretty nasty economic crisis. I'm going to assume the nazi's are going to able to stay in power though despite this. Germany's military would still be larger then in 1939 of course, and more modern too, maybe they could've gotten some of their stealth bombers. Military technology however would not have progressed as fast as in our timeline though. France and Britain would have been in a better position relative to Germany though. Where as the allied strenght in Northern France in 1940 basically matched the german strength, in this scenario in 1945/46 France and Britain would probably outnumber German forces by a decent margin, say 20%. Germany would also be outgunned more heavily in terms of tanks and other modern equipment, France would also be better entrenched along it's modern border. With new innovations in tank design, they might reconsider the possibilty of the Germans attempting to attack through the Ardennes, and not make the same mistake. Poland would still be overrun and the Phony war would still happen, and Belgium and the Netherlands still wouldn't have mobilised much more in an attempt to maintain neutrality. Considering the balance of power, Italy might not join the war despite early German successes, and if they attempt to attack France in the alps they would fail and perhaps sue for seperate peace. Improved French defences and superior Allied forces would draw the war to a stalemate much like WW1
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The allies would start strategic bombing Germany, and also of course inmediatly blockade it. Germany may trade a bit in eastern europe but famines would most likely still eventually occur. Allied air superiority and bombing of German infrastructure would lead To the balance of power on the western front to shift more and more towards the allies, and Germany might try an peace out early, or perhaps it could go on for several years until the allies start mounting offensives and eventually reach Berlin. Japan may not have joined the war either, though would of course still have raped China, but not completely conquer it. If Germany manages to build nuclear weapons though they would nuke Paris and London forcing the allies to capitulate, this is possible but imo not likely.

Entwicklung series becomes real. Finally Germany has a standardized panzer force.

Exactly the same but with better weapons and more bloodshed
There's no way Germany could have won, ever, at all
The only variable is how many men lose their lives over a pointless, bloody war

>There's no way Germany could have won, ever, at all
This is a retarded statement for an alt-history thread. There are many ways history could have gone differently and even though Germany had a worse initial situation scenarios like an Axis USSR or success with the development of nukes aren't that far stretched for such a thread.

Unless he joins the axis, it wouldn't happen

>It's yours, Charles

It's very unlikely for the war to have continued up to 1950.

Germany and Japan were both exhausted by 1945. Maybe if Hitler had been less autistic and listened to his generals with a big thrust towards Moscow rather than mucking about in Ukraine and Leningrad, he could have forced a Soviet surrender.

But even under this "optimistic" scenario for the Axis, come 1945-48 the Germans are going to face the full wrath of the United States. Expect Berlin and Hamburg to get nuked, and even biowarfare attacks with anthrax spores as planned for Japan during Operation Downfall.

The US was also getting exhausted by 1945 and dropping morale was a big consideration in the minds of the American military. In a scenario where the war extends beyond 1945 the US would go all out to force a surrender.

mildly vague on the situation and circumstances

>blocks your 10th battle of Kharkov

>implying germany and japan do literally nothing for 5 years

>It's very unlikely for the war to have continued up to 1950.
>.... in this timeline

>The US was also getting exhausted by 1945

How so? We were producing exponentially more war material by 1945 than any of the previous years and still had untapped reserves of million of soldiers to call upon if that failed to defeat Germany and Japan.

also don't forget a lot of german tank and aircraft design happened because of their experience during the war.

there's a possibility they'd have entered the war in 1945 with Panzer 3's as their MBT and short gun Pz4's as infantry support. no panzerschrecks or panzerfausts. no STG44's, probably no uhu infra red stuff, maybe the AR234 and maybe the ME262. and the russkies would have whole fleets of T34's and will have finished off their military reorganisation following the purges.

>lets just throw bodies at the problem, what could go wrong

literally soviet

>because of their experience during the war.
Not like it was different with the Allies...

You do know T-34s got destroyed by Panzer IIIs during Barbarossa despite being the better tank on paper?

Dumb meme

>literally soviet

My point is that even without its industrial might, the United States still had millions of able-bodied soldiers at its disposal. Germany and Japan on the other hand were robbing the cradle and the grave to staff their armies.

And we haven't even begun to discuss the technological advantage the United States enjoyed by war's end. We had the Axis outclassed in everything from small arms (the only army with semi-automatic rifles as standard issue) to the atomic bomb.

>implying germany and japan do literally nothing for 5 years
What was there for them to do?
By 1945 Japan had gotten rekt in the Pacific, most of its remaining fleet was barely operational, and its push to conquer China had failed. They were judt waiting for the inevitable American invasion of the home islands.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall
>Remaining major warships at its disposal numbered four battleships (all damaged), five aircraft carriers (all damaged), two cruisers, 23 destroyers, and 46 submarines. However, due to fuel concerns the IJN did not envision any further sorties by its capital ships, planning instead to use their anti-aircraft firepower to defend naval installations while docked in port.

As for Germany, they were nowhere close to getting their hands on a nuclear bomb, even assuming a victory over the Soviets (a huge what if) they were nowhere close to matching the US Navy or the Royal Navy at sea, and thus unable to project power beyond North Africa and Europe.

Come 1945 they are simply going to get glassed into the Stone Age.

Economically the US was getting close to its breaking point. By 1945 military expenditure was an unsustainable 30% of GDP and the national debt was over 108% of GDP, with a record deficit pushing this number higher and higher every month.

It is likely, as I said, that the US would try to finish the war in 1946-48 by any means necessary to prevent economic collapse.

>Nazi Germany starts a devastating war to avoid economic collapse
>the United States ends a devastating war to avoid economic collapse

Really gets that noggin' joggin'

>By 1945 military expenditure was an unsustainable 30% of GDP
Interestingly enough Defense spending made up about 80% of the United States' expenditures in 1944, fucking insane.

Burgers weren't looting that hard.

Fallout 3

Note how the total expendirure are 110 billion, of which more than 60 billion are financed through new debt.
That's Southern Europe tier .

I think the US spends too little on education, no? Although they had a fairly high literacy rate in the early 1900s, so I don't know what to make of it.

It's complicated by the fact all 50 individual states have separate education system.

*systems

In Germany all 16 states have their own education system too, and Germany is the size of a single US state.