When I was younger I thought Plato's ideas sounded like the dumbest thing ever but as I get older I find I start to...

>whoever broadcast the porn

ah yes (((whoever))) could it be???

>it's also obvious that freedom = { ..., the ability to view and produce porn, ...}

just because we can doesnt mean that we should

>Chad self-help tier bullshit.

Plato is one of the least "self-help" philosophers there are though. Are you thinking of Stoicism or something?

>that image
the state of /pol/, jesus
anyone can make porn, all you need is a cell phone and someone willing to make porn

>ah yes (((whoever))) could it be???
Yeah, of course if it happened in that case it would've been a jewish person, I doubt it would have been part of a military strategy though

>just because we can doesnt mean that we should
you can make an argument that people shouldn't watch/make porn, but you can't make the argument that people shouldn't be allowed to make/watch porn (as long as we're talking about living in a country where freedom of expression is allowed)

>Plato is one of the least "self-help" philosophers there are though.
Have you even read a single dialogue? All Plato talks about is how to become the best person possible (in order to reach the Forms)

The early dialogues strive to delineate virtues and extol the pursuit of knowledge; I fail to see what that has to do with "self-help"?

plato is fucking spooked hard and so are you op

yes anyone can make porn but it is quite the coincidence that the majority of professional pornography is produced by jews and no one is making the argument that porn should be illegal even in that video all they are saying is that it is harmful and should be avoided

Childhood is when you idolize Utilitarianism. Adulthood is when you realize Virtue Ethics makes more sense.

Helping you improve yourself is not a bad thing.

found it

news24.com/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-weapon-of-choice-20020330

either way, it is an interesting idea to discuss. I wouldnt call it dumb

putting aside your antisemitic nonsense

>all they are saying is that it is harmful and should be avoided
It seemed to me like they were critical of the fact that pornography was made legal because of freedom of speech

that the majority of professional pornography is produced by jews is a fact not nonsense, if you think facts are anti-semetic that's your problem and being critical of something is not the same as wanting it to be made illegal. how many layers of mental gymnastics are you on right now?!

Pretty much everything contained in the Republic is handled better in one of Plato's other dialogues.

Not that there's anything wrong with reading the Republic.

Jews are at the top of most fields. How much of it is genetic or cultural, I'm not sure, but they are an excellent people with great work ethic.
What is not factual is claiming that there is some sort of organised Jewish network that collaborates and plans the mind control of the population.
It's completely retarded and is based entirely on anti-semitic sentiment.

some of us are nofap pls

You can almost see her butthole.
Almost.

Self-help is generally how to cope with the struggles of life and your own failings.
Plato wants you to ascend to divinity.

>Meanwhile (((irl))), intelligence is actually at its prime in our 20s

Didn't Plato basically advocate a dictatorship?

>that the majority of professional pornography is produced by jews

So?

Some people never grow out of it.
Typically scientists and liberals

can you stop talking about jews you fucking retard?

But then who is he going to scapegoat?

>Also, the catholic church is a pedo sanctuary
Get a load of this brainlet.

>Catholic Church is one of the biggest forces pushing moral censorship in media.
>Media hammers Catholic Church for pedophile scandals (all while covering up for Jimmy Savile and Roman Polanski).
>Catholic Church withers under the attack and is no longer considered a moral authority to rally behind.
>Media is free to sell entertainment that inches ever closer to being full fledged pornography with no one to criticize or stop them.

and here you are happily burbling on about the pedo church meme with a big dopey grin on your face like you're saying something important and not just repeating a dumb meme

The Catholic Church literally has a long standing tradition of covering for priests who fiddle altar boys, all over the world.
You're probably an American so in your mind there's probably only the Boston scandal.
I'm from Italy where there have been too many to count.