Was wooden armor ever used.
Was wooden armor ever used
Yes.
Its just not that common among metal-using civilizations but during prehistory it probably was.
yes
see: japan and bamboo
>bamboo
>wood
Bamboo is a grass
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Yeah, nah. Japan has used iron armor for centuries. I have no idea how this myth even finds currency nowadays.
Yep. Tlingit were Veeky Forums as fuck. Those helmets.
just because they also used iron armor doesn't mean they didn't use bamboo armor
Bamboo,like leather was never entirely phased out. Even the Shaolin monks wore bamboo as irregulars.
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It certainly wasn't common, definitely not among those who could afford their own armor.
People see the lacquer and dont think its steel. If you've ever had a chance to inspect it up close however you know that under the lacquer, threading and leather backing are steel plates and chain.
But they did use bamboo armor user.
>certainly wasn't common
>this myth
>clearly has wooden shoulder and spine armor
It probably was, especially for poorer soldiers in certain periods. Wood rots away in ways metals do not so if such armour did exist it wouldn't today.
yes it was, same with armor crafted from bones. But wood rots so there have been no actual historic finds.
When you think about it it makes sense, wood is abundant and mankind has been able to craft with it for ages, and wearing wood armor is better then no armor. I can see it being used in the stone age and early iron ages.
do shields count?
you know, if you don't have iron, wood isn't actually a horrible idea
Has someone been playing dwarf fortress?
Paper armor was used in china.
Why do we have countless examples of wooden shields and not wooden armor?
He's talking about an earlier period in Yamato history, dumbnig.
>Countless examples of wooden shields
Yeah, from the medieval ages.
Meanwhile, there is are only two Roman shields ever found intact(ish)
Still extremely rare and not that old. Most shields are reconstructed based on shield boss, to find intact wooden shields is rare.
Ailettes were a type of wooden shoulder armor in the high middle ages. Japan had a vaguely similar armor piece with some goofy Japanese name I can't remember.
Two things to remember about armors made out of organic materials: 1) They tended to be used before metal armors, so there's more time for them to corrode, 2) they corrode much faster than metal armors
wood, if its good enough for trees its good enough for you
Bamboo doesn't preserve as well as iron.
>It certainly wasn't common, definitely not among those who could afford their own armor.
en.wikipedia.org
>Construction
>Japanese armour was generally constructed from many small bamboo staves (tetsu) and/or leather (nerigawa) scales (kozane) and/or plates (ita-mono), connected to each other by rivets and macramé cords (odoshi) made from leather and/or braided silk, and/or chain armour (kusari). Noble families had silk cords made in specific patterns and colors of silk thread. Many of these cords were constructed of well over 100 strands of silk. Making these special silk cords could take many months of steady work, just to complete enough for one suit of armour. These armor bamboo plates were usually attached to a cloth or leather backing. Japanese armour was designed to be as lightweight as possible (thus the use of bamboo) as the samurai had many tasks including riding a horse and archery in addition to swordsmanship. The armour was usually brightly lacquered to protect against the harsh Japanese climate. Chain armour (kusari) was also used to construct individual armour pieces and full suits of kusari were even used.[9]
someone is gonna say "its wikipedia you cant use it as source"
Bamboo is listed as "wood" when we talk about its use, in construction, handcrafting etc.
Same for the coconut tree, which is not a tree.
Loads of Polynesian and other Pacific civilisations used it, Kiribati is a good example, those nutty cunts even used shark tooth serrated swords and armour, as well as coconut armour, amazing to look at the piece they have in the Scottish National Museum
Additional proof that the Hellenes were superior to the Latins. When you cover your shield with bronze, the metal can survive for future generations to marvel at.
Did anyone ever use stone armor?
Was leather ever used as armor?
was metal ever used as armor?
Was cloth ever used as armor?
was bone ever used as armor?
Absolutely it was.
The Strategikon specifically suggests wood if regular metal armour is not available.
Actually...
I'm retarded when it comes to botany, why doesn't a coconut tree count as a tree?
Holy shit that's cool.
>not posting pufferfish head
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Hunter-gatherers in the Pacific Northwest like the Haida and Tlingit used wooden helmets and collars along with body armour made of wood, hide, cloth and sometimes coins.
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Coconut trees are large fungal organisms, not unlike mushrooms. Coconuts are used as spores for the fungi. That's why coconut water is so nutritious. The kick start in nutrition allows for them to grow faster and spread their future spores farther.
I would assume that any pre-metal weapon civilization would use wood armor. Stone seems too heavy hard to shape into armor, though I guess it's technically possible. Because of these limitations, wood was probably better for protection in ancient times. Not sure if wood armor was used after the invention of metallic weaponry though.
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This is a masterful troll.
Since a lot of out knowledge of historical weapons and armour depends on physical artifacts and wood has a tendency to rot away after a relatively short time...
who the fuck knows?
>Coconut trees are large fungal organisms, not unlike mushrooms
More like Mlanlits
Read OP faggot.
>"ever"
Nigger.
The Chinese did, Paper Armor is what its called.
No wonder these niggers ruled over the pacific.
fuck that's funny
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Yes OP. Mostly by druids because using metal armor makes their spells more likely to fail.
I would shit my pants if I saw that at night
Doesn't look like that would protect at all
Wicker is incredibly tough. It must be rather efficient against cutting blades.
Check the source, its from a general guide to armor world wide.
If you read books written by professional Japanese historians they rarely if ever mention the use of wood or bamboo.In fact I dont think I have ever seen a reference to it in a professional book.
are you referring to the wooden stand under it.
while bamboo isn't "wood" I love it as a material
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Some early Chinese armor was made of hardwood encased in Rhinoceros hide.
>the pinatas revenge
Should be noted that is only for greaves
Fuck i love these crazy cunts
That's from a stupid Chinese show.
Actual Rattan armor and shields offer serious protection. In China they're heavily associated with naval troops & sailors.
Vs piercing too? I know rattan its good vs cuts (the Iberians used it along leather for light weight shields) but seems like a good spear thrust could do too much damage.
Can fend of arrows at least, if the Chinese writing about Southern Chinese Tribes are right.
>professional Japanese historians
Is it possible for asian historians to be reliable/impartial?
Is it possible for Western ones?
That's a bit of a double standard there, don't you think? I mean Japanese sources aren't valid, yet all Western ones are?
What is this weapon made of? What kind of weapon is it anyway? Looks like half polearm half sword.
Shark tooth sword. Very common in Polynesian cultures. The Maori and the Hawaiians had them too.
Yea, it was found in siberia
> that sawfish nose (I know I know it's called a rostrum) sword.
at the bottom-most right corner
> "Call me... Double-face-Crow-nigger-Man!"
Also, pic related
Well I was referring to western historians of Japanese military history like Friday and Conlan, But I dont think their understanding of Japanese armor is that different from historians of Japanese decent.