CATHOLICISM THREAD #1

The funny thing is the original Christianity was far more Jewish than any sect today.

>>"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.", Matthew 7:12.
Why is Jesus quoting a pharisee? Thought he hated them.

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) took hold of my shoulders and said, “Be in this life as a stranger or a passerby. When evening comes, do not expect (to live till) morning, and when morning comes, do not expect (to live till) evening. Take from your health (a preparation) for your illness and from your life for your death.” (Al-Bukhari)

42. Jesus said, "Be passersby."

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>tfw Catholic
>tfw fiance and I both waited for marriage to have sex

Papal infallibility is inherently anti-Christian, get the fuck off my board

Read a post before citing it, retard.

Laudetur Jesus Christus.

Veeky Forums has got to be the single worst place to share our faith.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I know I know...
I am just saying that you aren't going to convert anyone here.

To answer some of your questions.

I confess weekly or sometimes biweekly.

Ofcourse I confess everything.

When it comes to contrition...
Last week was the first time that I was genuinely contrite and not just scared.
I cried in the confessional. I was close to crying for the duration of a confession, at the "Deus meus," I just burst into tears.
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"You unbelieving and perverse generation," Jesus replied, "how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me."

You sure quote a lot of scripture for a Catholic...

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen.

>tfw get trolled by atheist quoting random scripture
>tfw actually thought I was talking to a fellow Catholic

>Have you confessed your sins lately? How often do you confess? Are there things you just don't confess? Do you really repent from your sins when you confess?

Displaying an absolutely fatal ignorance on the forgiveness of sins, and demonstrating that you are enslaved by your pagan institution into a life of sinning, repentance, penance, sinning, repentance, penance, ad nauseum.

You do not know all of your own sins; therefore you cannot confess them all.

You do not know what constitutes sin, therefore you cannot confess them all.

You do not know what causes the forgiveness of sin; therefore you are deluded into thinking you have to be sorry, and that your priest can absolve you of your sins.

You do not know how to be saved, because you are lost.

You do not know how to be born again, because you are dead.

You do not know how to be free, because you are enslaved by a system of bondage that began in Babylon, and continues in your life, today.

You are a lost pagan, and if you do not repent, and become born again, you will be cast into hellfire for practicing lawlessness.

>I am just saying that you aren't going to convert anyone here.

Nonsense. People are converted all the time here.

>Babylon

>Ofcourse I confess everything.

You do not know everything. Anything that you think would have been good, yet you did not, that too is a sin against you. And you do not confess those.

Nor do you confess the sins you commit ignorantly, unintentionally, unconsciously, subconsciously, nor do you know your own heart, nor its endless wickedness.

'I don't have pet peeves — I have major psychotic fucking hatreds! Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.'

It's the edgy tradcath/orthodog type who are in it for the edgy traditionalism.
Often they either end up Orthodox or some edgy sede schismatics.

It's what the Jews called Rome to keep them out of Roman jails.

It's the center of pagan worship. It began in Babylon, and moved to Rome.

And stayed there to this day.

Then they were not converted into Christians, were they, and therefore not the subjects of my post.

I meant everything I remember obviously.
I always add that I must've forgotten many sins and that I am contrite for those as well.

Then you have not confessed all of your sins, and you will end up in hellfire.

How can you be "contrite" for something you've forgotten?

Protestants have an equal grasp of Church history as the average person with down syndrome.

Are you saying Catholics and Orthodox aren't christians?

Elizabeth I was the bastard child of Henry VIII's whore, Anne Boleyn.

What are your thoughts on this gentleman?

'I'm not concerned about all hell breaking loose, but that a PART of hell will break loose... it'll be much harder to detect.'

There is no reason for any Christian to know anything about Roman church history whatsoever. It is pagan, evil, wicked, and the best thing any Christian can do is avoid it at all costs.

That's exactly what I'm saying, Skippy. There is no corporate salvation, never has been, never will be.

Because I have offened God, my greatest welldoer and greatest love.

It's a foolish theory that somehow the forgiveness of sins that used to require the shedding of blood, and death, now only requires you to tell a pedophile about it.

It's a shocking new pagan magic ritual that the pedophile can then forgive your sins against God.

Never happened, never will.

Oh, hey, I think maybe I killed your mom last week, can't really remember, but my bad. We cool?

Question:

Are there any Catholics on here or just edgy protestants?

There are far fewer papists on now than there were.

Even they cannot stomach the current false prophet, and even they are starting to worry that they've been lied to their entire lives about being in the one cult that makes it to heaven.

'I used to be Irish Catholic. Now I'm an American - you know, you grow.

Keep thy religion to thyself.'

So now you're nothing. That's why you keep it to yourself.

You know your second statement contradicts your first statement, yes?

The Pope can be aweful, he cannot infallibly declare heresy to be doctrine though.

I am not the biggest fan of Francis, but he is my highest sovereign on earth and I know that God will remove him if need be.

>he cannot infallibly declare heresy to be doctrine though.

They can and do. Every position on Mary in the Catholic church is heresy.

>but he is my highest sovereign on earth

Exactly. You have zero access to the Holy Spirit of God, and so like pagans immemorial, you settle for the top dog in a cult.

The only thing that has been infallibly defined about Mary is her immaculate conception.

I won't get into theological argument with you over Veeky Forums but I advise you read up a bit about it.

“An artist who conforms to conventional ideas is nothing but a mere charlatan.” “He denounced him openly as a charlatan--a fraud with no valuable knowledge of any kind, or powers beyond those of an ordinary and rather inferior human being.” “A silver-tongued charlatan and a half-wit society are made for each other!"

Bullshit. And even that is heresy, as it violates Romans 3:23.

>I won't get into theological argument with you over Veeky Forums but I advise you read up a bit about it.

Mary has never heard from you. No clue who you are. She is not godlike, and cannot hear you.

Grow out of your cult.

Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"

Why not say--as some slanderously claim that we say--"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is just!

What shitty translation is that?

>Romans 3:23.
No one denies she has sinned.
She has just never borne the stain of ancestral sin.

Ofcourse she isn't godlike.

New International Version

Your entire church revolves around Mary being a sinless virgin who never died, the "Mother of God" and the "Queen of Heaven".

Now you say it isn't.

Now you say Mary was born sinless, as Jesus was born sinless. Now you say Mary's father was sinless, as Jesus was sinless. Now you say Mary's grandfather was sinless, as Jesus was sinless. Now you say Mary's great-grandfather was sinless, as Jesus was sinless.

Or did you forget that the sins are carried down for four generations?

So here we have you, with zero proof, saying that five people besides Jesus were sinless.

Cult.

If you pray to her with the expectation that she can hear you and intercede on your behalf, you are saying she is godlike.

If you say she is the Mother of God, you are saying she is God.

Ugh. Burn it. Maybe stand in a circle of salt while you do so.

where you from?

What kind of a question is that? They could be from literally anywhere.

15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,

16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.

17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

You have 0 grasp of the doctrine of Immaculate Conception.
I am happy to argue but you just don't know what you're saying.

She is the Mother of God in so far she is the Mother of Christ. Who is God.

As to intercession: It's no different from asking a friend to pray for you.

Jeremiah. @ 600 BC

Now tie that to Mary, born @ 20 BC.

Because you know who I can tie it to? Semiramis of Babylon, 2000 BC.

>OP creates a comfy thread to discuss respectfully the catholic faith and share theology tidbits.

>A bunch of insecure as fuck faggots invade and start insulting the catholic faith.

This thread ain't about convertion, it's about discussion. Reading the greentexts of some user won't make a catholic go protestant or viceversa. Stop trying to start an e-penis contest, you're gaining nothing from this.

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Matthew 26
But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”

Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Then the high priest tore his clothes, saying, “He has spoken blasphemy!

Jesus saying He is the Son of God = blasphemy.

>As to intercession: It's no different from asking a friend to pray for you.

A living friend, sure. Not yours, of course, because they're as spiritually dead as you are, but if you had a living Christian friend, sure he could pray for you.

Nobody that has died can, unless they're Jesus Himself.

Are you saying Jesus sinned?

Because if so, you aren't Christian.

Catholicism is Mystery Babylon, pagan in its origins, rites and practices that predate its bastard birth by the sun god worshiping Constantine. It's members are pagan to the core, believing that they can eat God's body and drink his blood; that they can talk to the dead; and they bow and make sacrifices to idols.

Better?

Son of God = God

Mother of God would also have to = God.

It's you who is the blasphemer.

How do I stop masturbating? Should I?

Also where to get qt christian wife to have many children with?

>A living friend, sure
Mary is alive though

>Nobody that has died can, unless they're Jesus Himself.
What about the guy who Jesus rose from the dead? (this is a joke obviously)

Wow, you really can't understand that verse, can you.

The Jews knew that by Jesus saying He is the Son of God, that He is saying that He is God.

Because kind begets kind, always.

God begets God. Jesus is God's only begotten Son, and Jesus is God.

You papists are more lost than even I realize.

Those are related questions. Stop fapping to porn, and your natural love and affection for a mate will develop.

17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Did God know people who died are really alive in the afterlife when He said don't try to contact them?

Did God know that?

Christ is the Son of the Father.
They are both one God.

Mary is the Mother of the Christ as he was on Earth.

Pope John Paul II said, “The truth of the Assumption, defined by Pius XII, is reaffirmed by the Second Vatican Council, which thus expresses the Church’s faith: “Preserved free from all guilt of original sin, the Immaculate Virgin was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory upon the completion of her earthly sojourn. She was exalted by the Lord as Queen of the Universe…For the Mother of Christ is glorified as ‘Queen of the Universe‘.” (9)

“The Church… been accustomed to have recourse to that most ready intercessor, her Mother Mary … For as St. Irenaeus says, she ‘has become the cause of salvation for the whole human race.‘” (10)

Pope Pius XI said, “What will it cost you, oh Mary, to hear our prayer? What will it cost you to save us? Has not Jesus placed in your hands all the treasures of His grace and mercy? You sit crowned Queen at the right hand of your son: your dominion reaches as far as the heavens and to you are subject the earth and all creatures dwelling thereon. Your dominion reaches even down into the abyss of hell, and you alone, oh Mary, save us from the hands of Satan.” (11)

Pope Benedict XV declared, “To such extent did Mary suffer and almost die with her suffering and dying Son; to such extent did she surrender her maternal rights over her Son for: man’s salvation . . that we may rightly say she redeemed the human race together with Christ.” (12)

Only thing? You sure?

(9) Pope John Paul II, Redemptoris Mater (On the Blessed Virgin Mary in the Life of the Pilgrim Church), Encyclical promulgated on 03-25-1987, #41.
(10) Pope Paul VI, Christi Matri
(11) Pope Benedict XV , Quas Primas (On the Feast of Christ the King), Encyclical promulgated on 12-11-1925, #18.
(12) Pope Benedict XV, Inter Sodalicia, 1918

God is all-knowing.

You just said Mary is God.

That Mary is part of the Holy Trinity.

Are you a muslim, or do you just share this muslim theology?

So God knew, and forbid people from speaking to the dead.

But you speak to the dead.

You do what God forbids.

It's the only thing about her that has been infallibly defined. Learn what infallible means before you argue.

How do I stop fapping though? I'm pretty sure it's an addiction at this point.

And honestly I have really bad social anxiety and am really awkward. I feel completely unlovable, unlikable even.

Positive? Just that one little thing?

“God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary.” (Pope Pius IX: Encycl., Ubi primum, February 2, 1849.) — [p. 12, number 12]

“O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, obtains salvation except through thee, none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.” (Pope Leo XIII: Encycl., Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895.) — [p. 12, no. 13]

“If it is impossible to separate what God has united, it is also certain that you cannot find Jesus except with Mary and through Mary.” (Pope Pius X: Allocution to the Franciscans, November 12, 1910.) — [p. 14, no. 20]

“Every day, as the Church herself recommends, priests will recite the Holy Rosary, which, by proposing for our meditation the mysteries of the Redeemer, leads us to Jesus through Mary.” (Pope Pius XII: Exhortation, Menti nostri, September 23, 1950) — [p. 14, no. 23]

It's not, and it's blasphemy and an abomination to God.

"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

"So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."

That's because fapping to porn makes you feel bad about yourself.

Stop it. Stop being alone with access to porn. Ditch it. Radically alter your life by getting rid of trash.

Clean your room.

I've been here so long I remember when you were b& from /x/

Talk to someone who knows his theology.

They aren't dead if they're in heaven.

>Encyclical
>Encyclical
>Allocution
>Exhortation

Yeah none of these are infallible.

Generally he may have disliked them but they still worshipped his father just not the correct way, so some of their words may have had merit to him while other words of theirs did not.
>Jesus was still a human being too

Only one, papist? You sure?

There is no set list of ex cathedra teachings, but that’s because there are only two, and both are about Mary: her Immaculate Conception (declared by Pope Pius IX in 1854 and grandfathered in after the First Vatican Council’s declaration of papal infallibility in 1870) and her bodily Assumption into heaven (declared by Pope Pius XII in 1950).

Gee, that looks like two.

And let's look at that second one. Mary, given to John to caretake upon the cross, John writes not one, not two , not three, not four, but FIVE books of the bible, and NEVER ONCE mentions that Mary ascended bodily into heaven.

NOT ONCE.

You papists are nothing but mother earth worshiping Babylonian pagans, and if you remain so, you will be destroyed by fire.

I've tried all that. I feel decent for a few hours until I'm put back in to a social situation or somewhere where I feel uncomfortable and I go back to square one for a week. I can't not be alone as it is, I have absolutely no one to talk to, and nothing to do.

So, you lied? Or you are ignorant? Which?

You're an introvert. Read up on the advantages introverts have. Don't try to be someone you're not. Be you. Everyone else is taken.

Catholics aren't Christian

I'd like to apologize for my ignorance,
I completely forgot about.
Munificentissimus Deus

I suppose I am ignorant, I am sorry.

>Talk to someone who knows his theology.
That would certainly not be you.

>They aren't dead if they're in heaven.
Or in Hades, technically, but you're still trying to talk to them, even though God forbids it.

Deuteronomy 18
There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the Lord

You are an abomination.

I don't want your apology.

I want to save you, to reunite you with your Creator, and most of all, I want to free you from the prison they put you in.