What would be the impact if the Germans started bombing the East Coast in 1943 with 2-3 schweres kampfgeschwadern...

>what was the cruising altitude on things that never existed?
My guess? Zero.

The design document called for 9000 meters. This is considerably less than the P-47, which was the only turbocharged fighter of the war with a service ceiling of 13,000 meters.

Fuck me that was a good laugh. Well structured post.

Overnight in November of 1942, Germany suddenly has 1,000 of THESE.
What happens?

Germany has this. What do.

Germany loses 800 good pilots on landing

10,000 of these show up on April 10th 1945
Wat do?

Nothing since they cant use it unless they have Asuka and if they do they only have five minutes before it runs out of power.

There's no take off space on the airfields they're crowded onto, leading to some of the most successful strafing runs in history.

you lost 10,000 pilots on landing and 200-500 ppl who were near to the landing

I do literally nothing as they don't have the fuel or pilots for them

destroy them on the runway?

Germany loses around 1,000 people shot down in the bombers, tons of resources and materials that they poured into making these, and inflicts vanishingly little damage.

soviets learn to appreciate lend-lease P-47's and spitfires more than they did.

Germany gets 100 of these show up in Berlin in January 1915

wat do

Germans would no longer exist if they did that

okay but what's the downside

>manage to sneak 180 massive planes past air defenses in the UK, Iceland, Greenland, Canada and the Continental US
>launch air raid on targets in Boston, New York, maybe Washington DC
>destroy large portions of each respective city's downtown area (easiest area to target)
>kill thousands of American civilians in the resulting firestorms
>up to half of the bombers are lost on the return flight as the Allies scramble every fighter from Nantucket to Sussex
>American public is utterly enraged
>any hope of eroding America's will to fight through attrition is gone
>anti-German sentiment supplants hatred of the Japanese as the premiere prejudice in American society
>damage done to the bombed cities is repaired in short order
>American war production experiences only minor disruption
>further American resources are diverted from the fight against Japan to the war with Germany
>US soldiers already fighting in Africa/Italy start savagely butchering every German they can get their hands on
>President Roosevelt or his successor (if the raid is unfortunate enough to kill him and infuriate the American people even more) announces the gloves are coming off
>air campaign to wipe out the Luftwaffe is ramped up
>remaining Amerika Bomber fleet is lost in short order
>aircraft, precious fuel, and ordinance expended in a move that only made the German situation worse
>if Germany was foolish enough to use chemical weapons to maximize the effects of the raid...
>use of chemical and biological weapons is authorized
>even more brutal proposed measures like Operation Vegetarian are implemented
>German cities and military bases are blanketed with mustard gas
>efforts to retaliate with V1 and V2 strikes against the UK fail to prove anything more than a nuisance
>Germany collapses by 1944 as the utter devastation causes their already faltering war production to fall apart, resulting the Allies having free rein to push in from the West and East without effective resistance

I can think of ten more fun hypothetical situations if you disregard actual history and technological limitations.

How many of them involve pregnant Anne Frank?

Hey fuck you

Hey it's a legitimate question.

>What would be the impact if the Germans started bombing the East Coast in 1943
D-day starts a year early because now they're really pissed off.

ALTERNATIVELY:
They say fuck it and forego Normandy instead invading southern France asap

tfw you're not good enough to draw bomber harris and pregnant anne frank btfo dresden in a lancaster

You're ruining this board faster than /pol/ is

>D-day starts a year early because now they're really pissed off.

The Western Allies couldn't really move up the timetable for D-Day. Work on the Mulberries (artificial ports the Allies used to supply their forces until Cherbourg and Antwerp were captured) didn't even start until September of 1943. Not to mention all the combat troops involved (especially airborne troops) had to spend months preparing in the upmost secrecy for it. Perhaps the Allies could've expedited the advance through Italy or carried out smaller landings in Southern France/Northern Italy to cut off the German forces fortifying the Apennine Peninsula but that's about it. The main Allied invasion of the West was going to have to take place no earlier than mid-1944.

ohhhh, that's a fandom with potential

Your butthurt is what's ruining this board.

Only the British were deadset on mulberries, Americans didn't even use them instead landing tanks and supplies on the beach directly, it's why the American sector didn't slow down during the August storms that damaged their mulberry the British basically forced them to have in the first place

wave after wave of T-34

Nothing because they dont have enough skilled pilots or fuel

Except even with the advantage of the Mulberries, the Allies suffered a critical shortage of supplies that forced them to slow and eventually stop their advance (Operation Market Garden was a last ditch effort to maintain the initiative by seizing a crossing over the Rhine) because they did not have enough ports to take in all the supplies from the UK. This problem would have been even worse if D-Day was launched a year early, since the Allies would have throw everything into capturing a deep water port before pushing on into the interior of France before the Germans could reinforce it.

Germany unleashes 10,000 of these. How many keks are had?

>The Western Allies couldn't really move up the timetable for D-Day.
I don't think you realize exactly how pissed off the average American would be. We would put the pacific on hiatus. We would weld together aircraft carriers or battleships to serve as harbors if we had to.

We would be absolutely livid.

>I don't think you realize exactly how pissed off the average American would be.

Oh I understand, I wrote All the American outrage in the world wouldn't solve the basic logistical problems D-Day had though. It was an operation years in the making and there would have been no easy way to move up the timetable for it. The only reason the Western Allies even attempted it that soon was because Roosevelt had promised Stalin that the US would open up a second front by May 1944 (even then, they were a month late).

Kek

No. D-day happens in 1943. You can keep your crystal ball up your ass though.

6.0*10^6 keks

Eisenhower in 1942 proposed two plans for an invasion of France in 1942/43 called Operations Roundup and Sledgehammer but both were shot down as impractical. The Dieppe Raid in August 1942 further demonstrated that they were not going to be ready for several more years.

There is just no way D-Day is gonna happen before 1944. The Allies just didn't have the numbers, experience, and dominance of the air and sea prior to that point.

The answer is 6.

They'd get fucked by US fighters, then the nuke in 1945-46.

P-51s were turbocharged, weren't they?

Just throw the marines at the problem. They'll kill it eventually.

But would we allow a pocket of Nazi Germany to survive until August 1945 to make an example out of them with Little Boy and Fat Man?

Germany has 100 of these on April 15, 1945

Wat do?

I could see Marines being diverted from the Pacific to take part in D-Day (perhaps at the Corps' insistence since they too want to take revenge on Germany for destroying several American cities) if that makes you feel better.

Alternate timeline Eugene Sledge's With the Old Breed detailing his participation in the Normandy Landings, his witnessing the horrors of the concentration camps, and shotgun wedding with pregnant Anne Frank when?

>release Magneto
>watch him crush the Germans' helmets around their skulls like in X-men First Class
>???
>win the war
>profit

>if Germany was foolish enough to use chemical weapons to maximize the effects of the raid...
>use of chemical and biological weapons is authorized
Holy fuck this would be a bad outcome for the Allies, because Germany had nerve gas and the Allies didn't even know what that was.

Germany has 150 big dick Africans and Muslims impregnating their woman every day in 1945. What happens?

But no effective way to deliver it beyond a tactical level (i.e. gassing Allied soldiers on the battlefield by shelling their positions). The Allies on the other hand could literally deliver gas to the very heart of Berlin via air raids.

Uhhh... Anne Frank gives birth to a carmel-colored mulatto baby?

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The Merlin was supercharged

>combining Sledge and Anne's talents for writing to make an even more compelling account of one of the brutal conflicts in history

Pregnant Anne Frank leads a coup and becomes the new Queen of Germany. What happens next?

Let's take a moment to talk about how stupid this premise is. If Germany suddenly has 120 - 180 new 4-engine bombers, why the fuck would they waste them attacking America? Would it not be infinitely more sensible to use those bombers to attack Britain, especially the Royal Navy, as well as airfields being used by the RAF? Alternatively, the bombers could be used to attack Moscow. Either option would be a much better usage of resources.

not to mention that Allies have bunch of escort carriers making patrols
You'd be damn sure they'd pick them up on Radar as soon as they go into the Atlantic and they'll have a plenty of time to intercept them
It would be a turkey shoot and Germans would lose 100% of their bombers

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Goddamnit

The Allies had plans to use Anthrax as a deadly area denial weapon. It would have taken decades to clean up the target area so that humans can enter without dying a painful death.

The proposed target area? Every notable German city.

I get wet just thinking about it. Germany must perish.

Wasn't the plan to hit the farmlands so all the livestock would ingest it and poison Germans that way?

No, they tested it on farmland and farm animals, but why would you poison large areas of farm land when you can instead directly poison far smaller high density housing and industrial facilities?

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No, the plan WAS farmland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Vegetarian

tfw no Stalker: Shadow of Hamburg game where you're a kraut adventurer exploring the decaying ruins of Germany's once great cities, evading ghouls, Allied occupation soldiers, and a Jewish Ku Klux Klan-analogy who ride around in their old concentration camp uniforms, terrorizing German civilians in revenge for the Holocaust.

There was another plan for the case that Germany used chemical weapons first.

>Operation Vegetarian
top kek, Allied codenames were full of banter

kek

The Alt-Right wouldn't exist. With no Nazis to worship, who will they look to?

>The Amerika-Bomber project was an initiative of the German Reichsluftfahrtministerium to obtain a long-range strategic bomber for the Luftwaffe that would be capable of striking the United States from Germany
>Date initiated April 1942
Why were Nazis such spergs? They couldn't handle the Soviet Union alone yet had these ridiculously grandiose plans of crushing everyone and rebuilding Berlin into a utopia while wasting resources onto the Holocaust and autismo turbo-tanks. Why did they go for a million goals at the same time?

Whatever that thing’s rpm is

Hitler was aroused by the idea of New York in flames

Who isn't?

I'm starting to believe that Jordan Peterson was right when he claimed that Hitler never intended to win WWII, but just cause pain and terror.

>had these ridiculously grandiose plans
99% of these are just researchers wanting to get paid for their research, or at least not be executed for making no progress. The people doing the research or designing stupid shit never intended for it to succeed, they just wanted to survive and knew that playing into Nazi megalomania was a good way to do it.

Werner von Braun just wanted to do space exploration, and if the Nazis were willing to pay him to build rockets, he wasn't about to turn them down.

The P-51A with the Allison V-1710 engine had a single stage supercharger.

P-51 B/D with the Rolls Royce Merlin has a 2 stage turbocharger.

Oh I forgot, the P-38 was also turbocharged, which gave it a service ceiling of 13,000 meters.

The only real scenario that allows for an earlier invasion of France, than occurred historically, that is at least somewhat plausible would be if the USA/allies bribed Spain, and landed troops that advanced past the Pyranees, before any German reinforcements arrived.

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I am

>death to the union, long live the confederacy
Get a life faggot

whoever made this image needs to repeat 1st grade geography

Here's what would happen if krauts attacked mainland America with chemical weapons.

>the eternal anglo unleashes anthrax on g*rmany
>america puts more effort into atomic weapon development
>early 1944 both little boy and fatman are dropped on Dresden

>allies drop leaflets explaining their end game
>leaflets contain detailed instructions on how to get to Siberia, Russian phrases to know, and illustrations of proper positions to be in and the correct motions to perform when face to face with the red army
>explain that for the good of mankind all g*rmans will be deported to Siberia where they will build new gulags to live in
>g*rman lands will become a living space for non-autistic people
>at long last the eternal kraut will be contained from the rest of humanity.

>D-Day landings occur
>g*rman men are shot on sight
>g*rman girls are rounded up and airdropped into soviet lines
>the term "no mercy" reaches biblical levels of metal as fuck

>the bomb "From Jersey" is dropped on Dresden
>Berlin is hit by the much larger bomb "Holokraut"
>90 thousand lives are killed instantly, millions more die of radiation sickness

>Bomber Harris calmly writes to Oppenheimer for an explanation, "Now look here o'l chap, do explain why this figure isn't higher? Also, do you have some more?"

>g*rmans claim the recent holokrauting of Berlin killed Adolf, Goebbels, Himmler, Goring, and reminds the allies that the B-29 is a flying warcrime.
>surviving government attempts to unconditionally surrender to the allies
>Dresden gets firebombed as a response

>non-crispy g*rman general asks the allied command, "why do you keep bombing us?"
>the radio operator hands the phone off to churchill
>after a few puffs from his cigar, his mind was clear

>"Fuck this war Jerry, I just want you dead. *click* "

>inhales the remainder of his cigar
>the smoke burns his lungs and exits his nose, doesn't even cough, the madman
>the RAF fighter command floor is filled with dead silence and smoke, all eyes are on churchill
>churchill takes his time lighting another cigar
>after a few puffs, he stares through the smoke filled room and locks eyes with a man standing next to a map of g*rmany

>"Harris, do it again."

Did a German touch you at a private spot?

The only thing this scenario is missing is pregnant Anne Frank.

Please put her in.