...has the U.S.A. Imperial Japan'd itself?

>Look at my capital ships! (d-don't worry about that new ship killing technology! A-at l-least they still let me project force!)
am I missing something or wasn't this the exact opposite of Japan's problem in 1940? They understood the role of aircraft in naval operations better than pretty much everyone at the beginning at least.

>They understood the role of aircraft carriers and aircraft in naval operations.
user I got bad news for you.

Aircraft carriers does allow the US to project force but that doesn't mean the US relies on them and probably have a better alternative than any other country.
The US armed forces are not "divided and bickering" and don't hold massive amounts of political power in a militarized society during the era of nationalism. The US is excellent at combined arms and cooperation between the branches despite the few differences they have.
The problem with you "colonial empire" analogy is the US doesn't have a Japan/US analog. There isn't a sleeping giant they're gonna provoke. If you remember right Japan was handling the Chinese pretty well until the US got involved.
The US not going to expand territory, they aren't as resources starved as an ambitious Japan and frankly they're biggest asset isn't an actual resource, but capital from petrodollar wankery.

>implying the CIA isn't a law unto itself

Not technically military but still...

look I'm not an expert by any means, but wasn't their problem that they couldn't keep up with production and not the doctrine itself?

user they put most of their money into battleships and wasted their best pilots instead of putting some in reserves to train new ones.Then their submarine force was a thing of their own.

There was several holes in Nip Naval doctrine. I will admit there was production issues as well and one of them was not being able to compete with the US with ship outputs and repairs.

I think the original reference was to battleships and he was drawing comparisons to modern aircraft carriers, which are floating targets in the age of guided missile salvos.

I thought they built a bunch of carriers and shit, shows what I know

>, which are floating targets in the age of guided missile salvos.

The days of guided missiles ruling the skies are numbered

youtube.com/watch?v=sbjXXRfwrHg

The Navy's already working on a second generation of these bad boys capable of swatting missiles out of the sky.

>there is still no power who can challenge the US just yet

ahem

This, hard to believe but they surpassed us

>le Vietnam can of worms
doctrine changes over time.

When rogue officers assassinate their superiors, get drunk, and then start wars with China and Russia against the wishes of the country's actual leadership, then you can compare the USA to Imperial Japan.

If we are talking from a military perspective the rice farmers got obliterated.
If we are talking from a technical political perspective, the US won with it the Treaty of Paris.
If we are talking about victory overall, the US still won as communism didn't spread throughout Asia and Vietnam is a broke state manufacturing goods for the US.

>>It's not a colonial empire, it's a sphere of investment and co-prosperity! Those puppet governments are totally independent!
The USA doesn't have any puppet governments (inb4 "UK is a satellite state" meme), they are genuinely independent and pursue their own policy, even if they are closely aligned with the USA. Even in cases of literal occupied nations like Afghanistan. Which was probably a bad extreme to take it to since it prevented the USA from enacting effective control when they needed to, but them's ideological blinders for you.

>le 16 year war in afghanistan face
>muh doesnt matter if we win the war as long as won a battle :}

>US doesnt have puppets

Wew lad

>when you live in a puppet regime owned by a global superpoeer that is actually a puppet regime for businesses who are puppet regimes to the globalist order which is a puppet regime for the lizard overlords

>shitty accidental imperial power stuctures are the same as ebil zionist lizardman plot xd

the lizards are no laughing matter and neither is the suffering of the poor 3rd worlders we both care so much about, truly this is a horrible system but its the system we've got, it'll trickle down ;^)
Mean white people doing evil things nobody else wou-oh look the chinese oh shit pls come back whitey the chinese are even worse bls repair railroads and roads cant into infrastructure fuck im tired.

Are you having a stroke? Do you think anti-imperialists aren't against Chinese colonialism?

Do you think power vacuums are stable and won't be filled by some other country's ambitious assholes?

A military perspective is a political perspective, you dumb fuck, war's aren't big fights, they're calculated applications of violence on a structure not directly under your control, the US's goal was to prevent a communist government in Vietnam, they failed.

>they failed.
Trying to fight a limited war using conventional tactics without drawing larger communist nations into the conflict even though North Vietnam was being armed, trained, and funded by them

And it's not like they got obliterated militarily, the cost of propping up an ineffectual regime was no longer worth it so they pulled out. In the chess match for world domination, they lost a knight. Communists were the ones who got checkmated in the end.

>they pulled out, their primary objective incomplete
>this is a win though

wew

Did you even read my post? greentext where I called it a "win"

I said global communism ultimately failed even though the U.S didn't meet its strategic objectives in Vietnam.

It's called playing the long game. You're right in that it's not about winning battles, it's about outlasting your opponents. Today Vietnam and China are both capitalist countries.

>which are floating targets in the age of guided missile salvos.
Hence carrier battle groups, combining the capabilities of each ship's CIWS to create a massive net of anti-missile defenses. Carriers don't just go it alone, they have an escort.

someone needs to replace that meme of a roman soldier on hadrian's wall looking at a bunch of barbars down below shouting "never conquered!" except replace the roman with an american, hadrian's wall with an aircraft carrier, and the celts with the vietnamese.

Oh wow, you are sooo creative and original comparing America to the Roman Empire. It's a shame you lack talent to actually make anything of it.

>It's called playing the long game

and you'll still be remembered as the nation who got raped by dong and nguyen for all eternity :)

>who got raped by dong and nguyen for all eternity :)
And now they're our factorycucks slaving away to make iphones and novelty sweaters and disposable plastic shit for pennies on the dollar

So who's raping who?

by this logic, since you speak english, you lost the revolutionary war then.

>by this logic, since you speak english, you lost the revolutionary war then.
Cute. I laughed.

Great Britain is our oldest and staunchest ally. All we needed was for their king to fuck off, which he did.

Arguably lasers can keep aircraft carriers safe. Arguably.

The CIA though often does what it does under orders from congress/the presidency. Secret orders, but orders nonetheless.

>implying Americans manufacturers aren't raping Americans too by outsourcing