We have to go back

*gets drafted and sent to Korea/'nam*

Fuck are there any non racist boards on Veeky Forums?

>assuming OP wants to go back because there were less browns, thereby acknowledging that browns are the problem in today's America

>Coke and Donuts
Disgusting.

>marijuana and RTDs
gangster and cool

This tbqh

Skinny roasties... Do not want

>a historical picture is racist

Now This is meta trolling

Eating sugar like the is more scummy than smoking marijuana

>this is what stoners actually believe

All those girls look like whores in a cage

Looks like shit tbqh

Not even joking either i'd be headed uptown to have a good time with some hobos at a jazz club or whoever wasnt a WASPy prude at the time

All women are disgusting whores

>>/r9k/
>>r/incel

Everything's going to be alright
(x 8)
So woman don't cry
No, woman
(No woman, no cry)
Oh my little sister, don't shed no tears

Woah lad

I really wish women would go back to coyly playing dumb and acting childishly desu, so many girls in the united States these days at least seem to have an axe to grind and are always so confrontational

>doesn't because they are in college/otherwise well off

Only amerishits glorify the 50s

So no

Dude.

Drugs, unmarital sex, etc, all the things /pol/tards say to dislike EXISTED in the 50s. Perhaps today is more widespread but there was far more shame into making things public back in the day so it was not so different really. Do you think that since comunication technologies developed and society became more open, magically, all of a suden rapist priests, animal fuckers, etc originated out of nothing? No. They were always there, except in the silence.

Life perhaps was economically easier, socially speaking hypocrisy was on the roof. Yes, capitalism made people far worse nowadays, but all that garbage always existed.

t. commie

>actually wanting the world to be a more boring place
Isn't this want a lot of contemporary normie parties are like? You all act like millennials and younger generations are having more sex than ever before.

>the whole world was this picture i found on the internet

people back then ate actual meals made by their mothers or wives. meals consisting of food. maybe every now and then going out for a milkshake.

>50s
90s is currently the best and arguably the zenith of human civilization

>Perhaps today is more widespread but there was far more shame into making things public back in the day so it was not so different really.
Yes that is the point you idiot. No ones saying it didn't exist, it was shamed and discouraged, which is why it was less prevalent.
> Yes, capitalism made people far worse nowadays
Idiot

I was wondering why you weren't able to comprehend and respond to what was being implied by OP, rationality isn't your strong suit.

To an idealized representation of something that never really existed?

youtube.com/watch?v=-NH_is7VuCI

>Infinite Jest is published and In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is released
90's were the GOAT meme decade

To when women wore a flower hairclip? Sure

back when syphilis was king huh?

>Two of the worst works in their respective mediums

>white people clubbing

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>we have to disregard everything of the past because of a STD!

stop being retarded

Thread theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=zK7w0b1brrc

>A picture of a white society is racist

Who's really the racist here?

Also this

Degeneracy is like unemployment - it's near impossible to completely remove. But clearly less degeneracy and less unemployment are generally good things.

Additionally, it was a time in which these problems were acknowledged and society worked towards a brighter future - can you say the same about today?

Actually the woman on the left was more likely to have incurable syphilis than the woman on the right.

Fucking Al Capone went retarded because it ate his brain.

I do not wan the diseases from the 1930's earlier.

>when you have no actual argument for a past culture other than syphilis

stop being retarded user

Clearly incurable diseases (and medicine) are not what we are talking about when we say that we want our societies to be more like they were in the past.

This argument isn't going anywhere.

Technically today is a brighter future than back then. People were dying of polio and flu and most poor people had it worse than the bums on the street today.

Anyone who thinks the past is better is fucking retarded. I don't even want to relive the 1980's because of crime and AIDs. If I had to live in the 1990's again, I'd probably be ok, but I'd miss the goddamn modern internet structure.

You can't have an ancient society with modern technology. It doesn't work.

If you gave the internet and electricity and cell phones to the god damn puritans, they'd all be fapping to tranny porn by the end of the week.

youtube.com/watch?v=9Cr_apcZkpY

back when racism was the norm, government debt was rising faster than ever, race riots were happening daily, when domestic abuse was at still at its early century plateau, when life expectancy and healthcare were less than they are today, when polio still crippled first worlders, when conservatives were so reactionary they banned hip jerking elvis presley music and even an instrumental song "rumble" by link wray because it was obscene, back when the government had more control over our lives, back when paratisitic post-war consumerism began, back when people were being drafted for the Korean war, back when Truman was president, back when education and iq levels were lower. back when automobile fatalities were much higher, back during the cold war's height, back when smoking cigarettes was the everymans cool thing?

see

>If you gave the internet and electricity and cell phones to the god damn puritans, they'd all be fapping to tranny porn by the end of the week.

Look. Muslims have the most restrictive culture in modern society, but they look at porn all the goddamn time. Friend in the army found them in the street with porn DVDs all the time in Iraq.

Also, people back then were fucking all the time anyways out of wed lock. They just kept quiet about it and hid the babies or back alleyed them.

salon.com/2015/01/15/why_porn_is_exploding_in_the_middle_east_partner/

Religious societies and other types with strict moral codes tend to be hypocrits.

salon.com/2014/10/19/why_red_state_conservatives_are_the_biggest_porn_hounds_partner/

The term 'ancient' unfairly exaggerates the faults of my argument, but that is an interesting proposition.

However, I see no reason why the internet should mean that relationships can't be an expression of love and not base desires.

Or why we can't spend more time with our children. Especially considering that we now have more time to spend with them.

Or why it is necessary to destroy the fabric of our societies through the immigration of non-assimilable peoples (see, Japan).

I agree that nothing remains forever, but that doesn't mean that the society of yesteryear wasn't better than ours today, even if it was tied to technological process.

Actually. This would a good time to convert this into a 1950's porn thread.

I'll go first with this scandalous image.

Read Paradise Lost and listen to Bach you little faggot. I say this unironically. Those are the highest art forms ever achieved by man.

youtube.com/watch?v=w7X41SUO5-o

Look from thy sole dominion like the God
Of this new world; at whose sight all the stars
Hide their diminished heads; to thee I call,
But with no friendly voice, and add thy name,
Of Sun, to tell thee how I hate thy beams,
That bring to my remembrance from what state
I fell, how glorious once above thy sphere;
Till pride and worse ambition threw me down
Warring in Heaven against Heaven's matchless King

The apex of art, try and enjoy it pleb.

How under-aged are you to think that picture looks old?

wow, people told me, but I never really believed it. Veeky Forums actually contains the most brain-dead pseud plebs on earth

Pro tip hummie. Love is a chemical.

Also they discovered that people who have infidelity are genetically predisposed to do so (throwing dat monkey wrench into free will).

If you want society based on love you need to put MDMA in the watter or figure out how to get CRISPR to make people monogamists.

>he actually thinks puritans who literally burned teenaged girls at the stake for witchcraft would consume pornography
not saying the puritans werent hypocrites but hypocrisy comes in different flavors and the puritans would more likely be on stormfront than youporn

People were always shitheads and assholes.

The internet just made it easier to see that.

Nothing has changed with human nature.

Are you gonna say anything of substance? I expected at least a thank you.

>However, I see no reason why the internet should mean that relationships can't be an expression of love and not base desires.
Spoken like somebody who has never been in a relationship.

>Or why we can't spend more time with our children
My parents spent plenty of time with me when I was a kid, and when they weren't around my grandmother was. Speak for yourself, user.

>that doesn't mean that the society of yesteryear wasn't better than ours today,
Sounds like you're romanticizing the past, user. It's a pretty common occurrence throughout history.

People are executed for witchcraft to this day in Saudi Arabia. Yet they seem to consume a lot or porn.

Also, they find the skeletons of babies throughout many monasteries in Europe dating back to medieval times.

okay, thank you for explaining to me how silly you are

My mom grew up in the 1950's. Her dad was an abusive drunk due to shell shock from WW2.

She gave me more love than he did in the 1970's.

equating puritans with muslims or monks is retarded tbphwyf

>milton and bach are good ergo everything else sucks

Reminder that anyone who cries about "degeneracy" is very likely a degenerate themselves but either arbitrarily believes their degeneracy should be tolerated or try to hide it only to get found out later. The person who would hang you for degeneracy probably fantasizes about getting bare backed by traps daily. This explains the massive amount of faggots in fascist and right wing movements and how many feudal rulers usually either openly or secretly reveled in what was illegal for the peasants.

Don't worry about it, high art isn't meant for everyone- Oh I think Game of Thrones is on! Cool Dragons and strong women! Better run along now, you don't want to put any more stress on those mental faculties

'It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat.

In the same way, there is some creature gnawing away inside of me, urging me to do things in different ways.'

They are all goddamn humans and regardless of your fucking social or religious code, you are going to be sticking your dick into things. Its what human males are driven to do.

Even if you didn't talk about in public. Everyone is fucking everyone.

How the fuck do you think you exist?

And people were fucking around more than you know. I found out my grand dad from the 1940's fucked prostitutes. Probably got some relatives I don't know about.

I could go look up some books that talks about infidelity and orphanages from the 1930's - 1950's if you really want.

DFW is a juvenile hack who doesn't deserve a spot in the canon, I was trying to make that as clear as possible by measuring him against the greats. He's alright for a contemporary American writer (lol)

I don't care for the huffington post but goddamn it was not that hard to find sources that people in the 1950's were sticking their dick into everything they could.

huffingtonpost.com/samara-oshea/infidelity-as-it-was-is-a_b_226722.html

Also Bette Davis was a shit parent to her children and abused them. Oh and child abuse was really common back then and no one cared.

that you are comparing mans natural desire for woman with consuming "transexual" pornography is concerning to me user

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Its a hyperbole. Statistically some of the puritans were actually gay, but they might have have liked boobs too so one of them might have looked at tranny porn. Maybe the rest would have been looking at barely teens or milfs.

>Statistically

>But there were bad things

You're not getting the point. I acknowledge that the past wasn't perfect, nor necessarily that I would want to live in that time.

The case being made is that many aspects of society were structured in such a way that we should try to emulate.

Additionally, nearly all of the points you've made are still occurring in some way today, except now they work clearly towards undermining our nations.

Romantic love is the attraction of two people together as one. It is the human embodiment of the synthesis. It is not a chemical, a chemical is its cause.

>People were always like this

See pic attached, they weren't.

Also this goes against your other argument that societies must change in light of new technology. Although in fairness that may not have been you.

>Spoken like somebody who has never been in a relationship.

Ad-hom and untrue

>My parents spent plenty of time with me when I was a kid, and when they weren't around my grandmother was. Speak for yourself, user.

That's good for you. But there is a growing trend to place children in the hands of others. Additionally, these are not designated nurses or what have you, this is through the form of childcare, etc.

>Sounds like you're romanticizing the past, user. It's a pretty common occurrence throughout history.

If you're accusing me of being emotional, then maybe to some extent you're correct. But this doesn't mean that I'm in the wrong.

>Some things were bad

I agree that many things have improved. But many aspects of modern life are worse as well. Pointing out faults in the past does not invalidate an assessment of the many positive aspects.

In my opinion, sex isn't a bad thing. It's how we approach sex.

Do we treat it as an act of bonding and of high importance, or as a way to have fun? Remember, monogamous couples with no premarital partners have the most satisfying sex lives.

Dude. Scientists back in 1991 had a hunch that being gay was genetic.

What is the probability that two twins separated at birth raised by different families in different conditions would both end up gay?

nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

>(((Scientists)))

1. People tend to lie on surveys. (say Penis size) Especially in societies that tend to be restrictive.

2. All your points will be invalid in 5-15 years when everyone has a goddamn sex bot.

I'd rather not, I was kind of a second-class citizen then.

*sigh* That dude is an engineer. Not a scientist.

And I agree. That show was terrible.

Also... You can litterally change your sex drive with anti-psychotics. I experience this myself. They put me on something for OCD.

I stopped finding sex and porn interesting.

Girl friend was disturbed. They gave me a prescription of Viagra. Still didn't want to fuck her.

Eventually got off it and I started looking at porn again and fucked her brains out.

The issue here, is that both times off and on my medication I felt that the decision to have sex or not have sex was complete free will of mine.

Afterwards, it dawned on me that you could just put this shit in the water supply and people would just not have sex and be perfectly fine with it.

Also I had MDMA at previous times in my life and have experience extreme amounts of love with strangers I never met.

All goddamn chemicals and no free will involved.

If you want a perfect society you will never get it through politicd, internet debate, or even laws.

You need to change the biology and chemical make up of humans.

If I ever get into a position of power, I'd going to make a Futanari virus, which not makes everyone into 20 something futanari's but makes them want to be that way.

>1. People tend to lie on surveys.

Do you have a survey to prove that? Haha

>2. All your points will be invalid in 5-15 years when everyone has a goddamn sex bot.

Won't that be a time. Fuck me.

It'll be interesting to see if sex-bots make any actual impact on society - or if they'll remain on the fringes of society like blow-up dolls are now.

It'll be interesting to see if the current trends are worsened, or impeded. I guess only time will tell.

Have you ever heard the phrase "When white people cough, black people get the flu?"

Basically when ever something socially destructive happens to America at large, blacks have a tendency to get the raw end. This even goes back, now that I think about it, to being an indentured servant vs. being a slave.

Anyway, although you would have legal barriers you don't have today, the black family unit was more stable, workforce engagement was higher, and blacks seemed like they were on the up and up.

It doesn't seem like that at the present. Hence the need for diversity quotas and the like.

>All goddamn chemicals and no free will involved.
Not this shit again

there is more to being alive than chemicals user

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I'm not black, I'm Korean, and we were just seen as more gooks back then because of the war.

Also... It dawned on me while looking at a Twitch Girl with big boobs that "Why was I attracted to her big boobs and not say small boobs or a dick?"

No one in my life up and told me I should look at big boobs at that moment. It just seemed natural. So how could I not be attracted to those boobs? I mean I could chose not to jack off or do something else, but I could not simply turn the my mind off from actually being attracted. I could turn the computer off and go pray to Jesus, but if I turned the computer back and looked at her again I'd be attracted to her.

But let's say I was a girl or a gay dude. That would not turn me on (unless as a girl I was gay). What if I was a robot? Would I just be like... Eh. Meat bag. The problem is that you are viewing the universe through your biology and you are stuck in the prison of your body.

I suppose you could cut your nuts off.

But otherwise self modification is the only way to free will.

Actually, I'd be more concerned about A.I. replacing all human jobs and throwing me into an unemployment camp but... Well.. Hopefully its the nice version.

DUDE CHEMICALS LMAO

Dude. I had first hand experience with the anti-psychotic.

If you don't believe me ask your doctor for a prescription of Saphris.

Your mind and behavior will change and you will keep thinking to yourself "I'm in control."

you are in control of whether you swallow the pill

I was going to mention that it was most likely the case that I was talking to a black.

What is the Asian population of the USA? 1%? 2%? I can't speak for you then as I'm honestly unaware of your history in the states, other than that the Japs were angered by white countries' dismissal of their race.

As it is, Asians don't tend to have the same problems that whites have in modern society, so that places your group in a unique position.

>throwing me into an unemployment camp
That's what you get for not praying to the machine spirit.

>I can't speak for you then as I'm honestly unaware of your history in the states

For a good chunk of US history we were the "they're taking our jerbs" scapegoat (even though it was mostly the Chinese), so we got a lot of shit until like the 70s.