Is it true that italian immigration was so big in Argentina? How much did it affect the culture and demographics?

You're such a dumbass, it hurts

>mfw hear an argie talk

There is something so grating about the way Argies talk

Argentina is basically hispanophone cowboy Italy

>implying Argentine Spanish isn't best Spanish
I bet you're a Spaniard

Que pasa che? No seas boludo

>Most Argentine surnames are Italian rather than Spanish
Lol not even close.Italians in Argentina are like Irish in the US.Massive LARPers.The biggest genetic contributor to the Argentinian gene pool is still Spain by far.It is just that people that are 1/8 Italian claim to be Italian

The upperclass in Argentinia is mostly criollos (castillian-Basque aristocracy like in most of South America) and jews.Anglos in Argentina are redneck farmers and mostly welsh

>let me tell you about your country
There are no pan italian surnames, they vary by region (Russo-Rossi, Castelli-Castello-Castellari, Santin-Santino-Santini, etc). That's why the most common surname isn't italian but spanish, they're more simple and standarized. Italian descended people, being 100% or 75% are the majority group. The 1/8 italian people not even identify as such.

Argentina also has the highest number of registered italian citizens in the world outside Italy.

>changed the spanish accent to an italian one?
Not all people in Argentina speak the same accent, what you might think of as "Argentinian Spanish" is the way people talk in Buenos Aires.

There is not a single Italian surname in the top 200 and barely any in the top 500.Stop being deluded.Italians just larp about their Italian side a lot more than they do their Spanish side (while emigrating mostly to Spain unironically)
>Argentina also has the highest number of registered italian citizens in the world outside Italy.
The same statement is true with Spain.

Or Australia with the Greeks

Spanish has very common surnames (Fernandez, Rodriguez, etc.).
Italian surnames are more varied.

%-wise there are more Italian surnames than Spanish surnames, you can check this on every facet of national life. Your "list" is not representative.

Why are Galicians the butt of all jokes in Argentina?

>you can check this on every facet of national life
No you can't.Most business men and polititians have Spanish surnames while Italian surnames are more common amongst celebrities and sportmen which means that Italians mostly represent the lower classes which is why they are overrepresented there.Italians are slightly more numerous than Galicians but they are not even close in surprassing Galicians+criollos

We use the term Galician (Gallego) for everyone from Spain and they have fame of being dummies/slow

No, traditional Argentine upper class was either Spanish criollos (Martinez de Hoz, Ibarguren, Ocampo, and other "aristocratic" Spanish names dating from colonial times) or Anglo-Argentines (Thompson, Williams, Terry, Rawson).

Anglos in Argentina came as farmer immigrants very early (1800s-1870s) which allowed them to secure some of the best lands for farming, or came later, but as investors and bankers.

In contrast Italians and Spanish came mostly as peasants, while Germans or French came mostly as middle class professionals.

This changed after the 1940s-1960s, with the dissappearance of the huge social differences that were typical worldwide before WW2. Now you can find all sorts of upper class and middle class surnames.

argentinainvestiga.edu.ar/noticia.php?titulo=historias_de_inmigrantes_italianos_en_argentina&id=1432#.U2cKkYHa70s
>Se estima que en la actualidad, el 90% de la población argentina tiene alguna ascendencia europea y que al menos 25 millones están relacionados con algún inmigrante de Italia.
You can meet a thousand italian descendants with different last names, but if you meet a thousand spanish descendants the vast majority will share last names with each other.

argentinainvestiga.edu.ar/noticia.php?titulo=historias_de_inmigrantes_italianos_en_argentina&id=1432#.U2cKkYHa70s

You are wrong. Most Argentines (62.5%) have Italian ancestors, most surnames are Italian.

More common surnames are Spanish because they have less diversity in surnames, most Spaniards are called Rodriguez, Alvarez, Lopez, etc... very few surnames concentrate a lot of people.

Our accent and slang already makes us stand out, and it's greatly affected by Italian.

There is not a single Anglo-Argentines in the top 20 wealthiest people in Argentina.Stop being deluded.

t. butthurt Spaniard

>Most Argentines (62.5%) have Italian ancestors
The percentage is higher with Spaniards.Being 1/8 Italian counts as italian ancestry

It's hard to compare because bolivians, paraguayans, peruvians, etc have some spanish ancestry. If we are talking about old immigration, there were more italians.

There were millions of Spanish immigrants during the late XIXth and early XXth century.

I said things have changed since the 1940s, can't you read? Go look newspapers from the interwar years, actually do some historical research. Argentina had the largest number of British immigrants outside of the Anglosphere and most were upper or upper-middle class.

Typical surnames like Terry, Thompson (Mariquita Sanchez de Thompson), Castex, Duhau, Duggan.

Italians are the most numerous ancestry by a small margin. Then comes Spanish, then French, then Polish, then German, then Swiss, then Turkish, then other Slavic, then Irish, then Anglo, then Welsh, then the others.

Argentina is AMERINDIAN
W*ites get out

Ive met one Argentine and he was 3rd generation Italian and still spoke Italian

Spaniards btfo

Let’s check on presidents going backwards, a lot of interim ones and military ones
>Macri
>Fernandez de Kirchner
>Kirchner
>Duhalde
>Rodríguez Saá
>de la Rúa
>Menem
>Alfonsín
>Bignone
>Saint Jean
>Galtieri
>Lacoste
>Viola
>Videla
>Martínez
>Perón
>Lastiri
>Cámpora
>Lanusse
>Levingston
>Onganía
>Illia
>Guido
>Frondizi
>Aramburu
>Lonardi
>more Perón
>Farrel
>Ramírez
>Rawson
>Castillo
>Ortiz
>Justo
>Uriburu
>Yrigoyen (1930)
Criollo elite down here

Pretty varied last names, and it’s names like these that you find in the wealthier cemeteries and in street names

*Farrell

Yes, my bad

The most accomplished composer of tango music was Italian-Argentinian.

>HURR DURR SRLSY LET ME TELL ABOUT UR COUNTRY, I KNOW BETTER WIKIPEDIA SAYS SO
Why you so mad, Pedro?

> The same statement is true with Spain.
No it's not the same thing you stupid nigger. It refers to having italian citizenship. Italian citizenship in diaspora pass ad eternum, thats why almost all of us have it. Spaniard one does not.

You're the only deluded, my dude.

>No it's not the same thing you stupid nigger. It refers to having italian citizenship. Italian citizenship in diaspora pass ad eternum, thats why almost all of us have it. Spaniard one does not.
Spain has Ius sanguinus as well you dumb fuck.

Not him but it does for only one generation, manolo. Diasporas can't pass it to the son, only Spain born can. At least not here in Argentina where they only give it to one generation. My aunt got it due to her spaniard father but can't pass it to his son because.

Italian one doesn't have any limit.

*because she's born here

>mfw SHTF (soon) the eternal i*alian has an entire country for him like 10 times bigger than the original one to escape into
>mfw Beléns everywhere
>mfw we'll ruin it like the homeland in no time
Prepare your anus, fratelli argentini

Just be ready to drink fernet with Coca Cola

The average argentine doesn't knows Belén though

It is whiny and it's a shit tier language

Spaniard one goes for two generations. Also, it can be passed on indeterminately as long as every person on the line is an Spanish citizen.

Also, Italian one does have a limit. The Italian ancestor most have been born after an specific year (I forget which) that was calculated in order to include anyone that was/would have been alive during Italian unification.

Can't do anything if you just have shit taste.

> Also, it can be passed on indeterminately as long as every person on the line is an Spanish citizen.
No, not here. Maybe in other country.

> Also, Italian one does have a limit.
It has no limit afterwards that's what I mean. It passes perpetually. There's here people who took it from their great great grandfather and those who are third generation diaspora still passing it to it's offspring